Beating Mordekaiser Bot Lane, how?

Dessem·Oct 1, 2015·1 votes·2,217 views

So hey. I see Mordekaiser's absent from patch notes, so I assume Riot's not looking into balancing him any time soon. Maybe he is, in fact, balanced. I do keep losing to him, though, because I don't have enough practice against one and generally feel completely overwhelmed when he pushes me under tower. I can't tank minions, and I can't afford to let his support Thresh/Blitz/Leona grab me within the minion wave and get me killed.

So what are some tips and tricks you guys have for beating Mordekaiser bot lane? Assume that the jungler has absolutely no interest to come gank (100% of my games against bot Morde) and so, I have to do it with just me and the support. I tried poking, but Mordekaiser's shield is usually up. If I just focus on poking Mordekaiser, I end up tanking minions/support, so maybe I'm doing something wrong there.

What champion do I pick? What items do I buy? What general laning strategies do you employ to get success?

tl;dr what weaknesses can I take advantage of?

11 Comments

UNSCOct 1, 20151 votes

Its good to pick a harass adc against him (something with good range) to deal with him. He's also incredibly reliant on his supp. He has to have a supp like blitz or thresh or else he's kinda screwed since he wont be able to get ontop of you.

Roo NutsOct 1, 20151 votes

ADC's to play against Morde - Caitlyn Corki Ezreal Kalista Jinx Lucian Sivir Tristana

Supports to play against Morde - Annie Janna Karma Lulu Morgana Nami Sona Soraka Zyra

If you noticed, no melee supports. ADC's have escapes/mobility. All have harass. Never pick a melee support in to him. Don't try to all in him 2v2 unless he's low. Make sure he doesnt get his 3rd Q stack off on you. Don't let them get between you and your turret.

z0mg its PieOct 1, 20151 votes

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ADC's to play against Morde -

Supports to play against Morde -

If you noticed, no melee supports. ADC's have escapes/mobility. All have harass. Never pick a melee support in to him. Don't try to all in him 2v2 unless he's low. Make sure he doesnt get his 3rd Q stack off on you. Don't let them get between you and your turret.

forgot Leona Zilean Blitzcrank

Roo NutsOct 2, 20151 votes

Forgot about Zilean. But no blitz and leona I wouldn't take. They both involve getting too close for comfort. With morde you need constant harass or high enough to burst to hurt him through his shield. Never try to get in melee distance against him when you're squishy or early game else you'll get shat on.

z0mg its PieOct 8, 20151 votes

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Forgot about Zilean. But no blitz and leona I wouldn't take. They both involve getting too close for comfort. With morde you need constant harass or high enough to burst to hurt him through his shield. Never try to get in melee distance against him when you're squishy or early game else you'll get shat on.

I'd strongly disagree. leona has the cc chain that can allow a burst on him. blitz hook under turret is very effective and relatively easier because morde is basically melee (plus blitz has that AOE silence :)). Currently Diamond 1 and last two seasons Plat. I would say all three are good choices because they not only are easy counters for the lane phase but are very useful in teamfights.

baby reksaiOct 2, 20151 votes

forgot Braum Lucian

Professor WardOct 2, 20151 votes

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ADC's to play against Morde -

Supports to play against Morde -

If you noticed, no melee supports. ADC's have escapes/mobility. All have harass. Never pick a melee support in to him. Don't try to all in him 2v2 unless he's low. Make sure he doesnt get his 3rd Q stack off on you. Don't let them get between you and your turret.

id rather go vayne/tank and cs/harrass him/farm as he is usually paired with a leona and a squishy mage will be deleted in one engage.

Unlucky Number7Oct 1, 20151 votes

early game lv1-3 morde is surprisingly tanky and does a little damage. if he brings a squishy support focus the support in an all in. then kite morde cause without support he's easy to kite.

TehNACHOOct 1, 20151 votes

Mordekaiser is the ADC equivalent of a Lane Bully top lane. Fighting him head on is not the smartest move in general.

Focus on out farming and outscaling him. He has power curve makes him supreme from the early to mid game, but his play style makes him drop off like a rock come late game. If you can play a long ranged Hyper Carry or Utility Carry, make sure to play defensive early on, and let the game carry on until he drops off and you don't, you win. If you try to play a Burst Carry bot and try to fight him all the time. You will most likely lose. Hard. Really, really, third hit Q hard.