Kleptomancy should not give Elixir of Skill.

Dessem·11/19/2017, 2:36:14 PM·98 votes·5,614 views

Testing out the Kleptomancy on Sona (read: I got auto-filled), it occurred to me that the Kleptomancy mastery sometimes gives you an Elixir of Skill.

I'm fine with Kleptomancy giving you Gold, and I'm fine with it giving you consumables like a one-time use Farsight Ward, or a weakened Elixir of Sorcery, or an item that gives you ph4t gawld.

I'm not OK with it giving you an Elixir of Skill, because it seems unfair to me that you could get lucky off RNG and be ahead in skill points.

rito pls fix

56 Comments

Sohleks11/19/2017, 2:49:36 PM33 votes

Hmm.

I think one potentially valid criticism is an enemy can't really see if they have an extra skill point power on you. They can see gold buying extra items or the aura of an elixir and the selection of other keystones, but not a mysterious kinda random skill point advantage. Not that it's really critical but somethin' that just occurred to me.

k wìx11/19/2017, 2:47:00 PM9 votes

I think it's awesome, personally. I like that there are lots of potentially amazing things you could get.

That being said, I still think Klepto is pretty amazing right now - super hard to say if its broken or not.

AmazoX11/19/2017, 10:00:18 PM9 votes

The idea of RNG itself in a competitive game is just stupid, Can you imagine a clutch moment decided by RNG? It would be very dumb.

CurseOfLife11/19/2017, 6:48:50 PM3 votes

The keystone was ment to be a support one.. due to supports running around the map and being on a 2 man lane they are usually behind in levels. Dont know if you read the patch but catchup xp is gone:

[REMOVED] NO LONGER RELEVANT Earning a kill or assist while below your team’s average level no longer grants bonus experience

Ive noticed that depending on the game I can be up to 4levels behind on a player (fed one) or 2levels behind on a "fed" support.. but usually its 2levels behind.

We dont know the % chance of it but its probably low, do you want to take that or u want aery(other) u are trading away better keystones for an rng one.

Weedbro11/19/2017, 3:08:06 PM3 votes

So let me get this straight by taking Kleptomancy one of your abilities is just +1 holy shit why

Naqel11/19/2017, 2:52:17 PM3 votes

It's not actually "RNG".

Although they are a bit of a mystery ATM as to what the exact conditions are, there is almost a guarantee that you will get an elixir of skill around/after level 10, and that you will only get it once in any given game.

The same applies to virtually all items you can gain from Kleptomancy: there exists a set of conditions that significantly increase the drop rate of a specific item when you next proc the Keystone.

Final Spark Lux11/20/2017, 1:18:55 AM3 votes

The power you would gain from something being rank 2 is negligible though. It isn't as if you can get one at level 5 and unlock your ult. Abilities have level gates, so it isn't as unbalanced as you may think.

Downvoted for the truth. Meanwhile people destroying lanes with Aery / Dark Harvest lol

ModAcademy Kayn11/20/2017, 4:11:37 AM2 votes

One can argue that's the strength of choosing Kleptomancy over something like Aery, some Tank Mastery, or Summoner Mastery.

SociopathFriend11/20/2017, 7:49:37 AM2 votes

It's also really annoying on the other end because once you use it you will forever have your "level-up" arrows above your abilities.

Alimentateur11/20/2017, 12:06:37 PM2 votes

Meanwhile you can have 2 health potions running at the same time while still harassing the enemy with endless mana pots

0racle091211/20/2017, 10:37:35 PM1 votes

I think it would be ok to have it if you could only get it past say, level 8 or something. If the loot was categorized that way, I think it would be more balanced. At later ranks (given you have a full build), it could perhaps give you smaller, short buffs that are automatically applied?

ªTeemo11/20/2017, 2:17:51 PM1 votes

Well if you get the mini red pot you are ahead of 1 lvl in stats but you seem to be fine with that

Solidair311/20/2017, 2:47:35 PM1 votes

It's pretty rare to get one, and you can't get a free ult point off of it, so I really don't think it's that bad.

RunninInThe90s11/20/2017, 7:06:25 PM1 votes

I agree with that. I also think the 3 separate mini-elixirs shouldn't be allowed to all be active simultaneously either. We're not allowed to stack all 3 of the 5 minute versions of them, so I don't see why Klepto should allow us to have all 3 effects active at once.

Kuromatsu11/19/2017, 7:22:33 PM1 votes

I like the RNG of Klepto. It makes the game more fun actually. Would have been a fun move on riots part to make the idea apply to a new champion rather than a keystone maybe. I still can't say for or against the skill point gain as for most this its still too early and i think most poeple's complaint with it is that players gain too much gold from it.

A Bepi11/20/2017, 8:08:20 PM1 votes

I run kleptomamcy on lulu a lot and in all honesty i have gotten elixer of skill only 1 time. The RNG is extremely low amd 1 extra skill point wont break the game tbh. Considering you are sacrificing other keystones for the extra gold (that will undoubtedly get nerfed because of EZ ruining everything for everybody) i dont think the elixer of skill should be removed (unless u can get like 5 per game then yeah) or at least make it 1 per game amd does not stack with coin quest.