I play Annie Mid.
I feel like in some specific matchups (Kat) it would be best to get AD/Arm Pen/Hybrid Pen marks instead of Magic Pen Marks. Basically I think that in some matchups you're going to be relying on your AA to poke so you should beef it up a little at the expense of late-game.
Any thoughts?
I know I've seen at least one annie guide that suggested hybrid runes for support.
Aww Kat1 votesi thought annie was too op before buff and now she is getting stronger i wouldnt push my luck, shes good enough
Syn Zykan1 votesI take hybrid pen on almost all AP mids. It is just barely lower M.Pen and gives auto's a little more harass ability on any ranged champ. It especially works well on ones that have great range (annie) or can't afford to harass with spells as much (veigar) meaning you are going to be auto'ing more often than not P:
I don't take hybrid pen on ones that don't rely on auto's for anything other than last hitting though, so champs like Xerath I will just go for pure M.Pen.
I wouldn't use AD marks/quints on any AP champ though unless you are really having issues last hitting creeps.
GoldenMean1 votesThanks guys. :)
GoldenMean1 votesOut of curiosity, does anyone know if blitz silence will interrupt Kat ult channeling (or any channeling)?
Kat Head1 votesOut of curiosity, does anyone know if blitz silence will interrupt Kat ult channeling (or any channeling)?
Yeah, any hard cc stops kats ultimate.
I would think Hybrid Pen runes would be good on annie considering her really long aa range.
Annie vs Katarina is a auto win in lane for Annie.
Syn Zykan1 votesyes, silences interrupt channeled abilities
Faith Breaker1 votesBuy Lichbane or Icebourne Gauntlet. Annie's auto attack range DOES matter. Learning to auto attack, moveintorangeandq~ , then immediately get a free auto attack combo is crucial. As annie support, that's all 3 procs of your Spellthief. And mid, that's ouchies for days especially when you perform that combo.
Every. Single. Time. They. Cs.
Alternatively, practice in bots a few games with AD Annie. Play her like AD Ahri and make sure a lich bane and BT are in the build. Try it out in blind pick. Do some team builders. Then go for a normal draft pick. It's an off build, it's fun, I've won before using it. Competatively don't try.
GoldenMean1 votesThanks so much for this. This is a fundamental mechanic that I haven't been taking advantage of and I've been meaning to look into it. >< That's probably bronze to silver right there.
BT = bloodthirster?
I don't know anything about AD Ahri.
GoldenMean1 votesActually I wanted to ask about this - what triggers autoattack reset, if anything? Is there any way to autoattack faster or to maximize your combos so that you get to do more actions in less time?
Obviously lucian wants to make sure that he weaves autos into his combo but are there other champs that benefit from doing so?
Faith Breaker1 votesIf you click the enemy to make an auto attack, then use q and target the enemy, annie walks into range and throws her q, then, when q animation is over, she throws another auto attack.
If you walk into range of annie's q, click to auto attack, you can IMMEDIATELY cast q, canceling the auto attack animation (after the fireball comes out) No sooner does Annie perfor the animation for her q, you immediately click the enemy to manually input an attack command. Annie will immediately perform an auto attack without waiting for the frames of her q to stop.
Consider Viktor's q. It empowers his next basic attack. If you just q a minion, he'll use q, perform animation, then use his empowered auto. But if someone were to click to q a minion and immediately after input the attack command, before the q even comes back to Viktor he nearly instatly performs the empowered auto.
Very small time window, but it makes big differences often.
Auto attackQAuto attack = Use this often and get used to it it's your bread and butter combo and it's how alot of champs chain their moves.
Faith Breaker1 votesYes, Riven makes use of auto attack canceling frames of her move, and Lux. Lux is ap Lucian. Lucian is an ad Lux. Some mages like Xerath don't have much use for an auto attack outside his passive, even though he looks cool with a Runnan's. Some mages have suprising benefits to incorperating auto's into their roations. Some mages rely on auto attacks in between their spells. Like Veigar mid.
The Chin1 votesI play a lot of annie mid, hybrid pen would probably be best, but I use m.pen because of a lack of rune pages
GoldenMean1 votesMan you missed out! You should have bought RP when there was bonus RP recently, then spent the RP on rune pages when they went on sale (again recently). Next time... :(
It cost me $25 CDN to get 12 rune pages (14 total), so I'm probably set for life now. I have a bit of extra RP "change" left over and I'm saving it for the next time the rune pages go on sale. I'm broke IRL so I didn't want to spend the $50. :/
AwesomeChad1 votesI play Annie Mid.
I feel like in some specific matchups (Kat) it would be best to get AD/Arm Pen/Hybrid Pen marks instead of Magic Pen Marks. Basically I think that in some matchups you're going to be relying on your AA to poke so you should beef it up a little at the expense of late-game.
Any thoughts?
I know I've seen at least one annie guide that suggested hybrid runes for support.
lol i was scared for a moment when ur title said autoattack annie. Anyways, yes you can run a multitude of different runes for annie or mid laners in general. Running hybrid penetration runes are good. Running flat AD runes are alright IF (and only IF) you harass the enemy alot with your autoattacks in laning phase. The flat AD will not scaling with annie's abilities nor will it scale at all because annie's build won't revolve around more AD so if you use it, you must gain some advantage in the laning phase. Armor pen runes are useless on annie.
ccseancc1431 votesAnnie is too easy. 0 mechanical skill involved.