Chilling smite : magus > sorc shoes > void staff > rabadon > liandry > morrelicon
never done this yet, but this is my ideal build. I'm thinking I'd need a wota or gunblade for early sustain in jungle though. Not sure.
Katarina falls right under Talon on my favorites list, though I really don't too much care for AP champs. Just been using them for the sake of ranked matches if I'm a bottom pick and think our team is too AD based.
All advice and criticisms accepted.
NorthernDruid1 votesFor Akali at least you're missing Lich Bane and Gunblade.
I like to get Ranger's Trailblazer on her for the extra sustain early on, and the general ablity to dip into the jungle and smite+E the chickens. Once I have gunblade that's basically half my health bar.
Or I can do the same with Red buff and it's even better.
Granted I've only tried vs bots. (not gonna be my first pvp jungle game be with Akali)
K541 votesLich Bane came to mind, but then I was thinking Q > R > AA E > AA has her in there for longer than she should be. I was thinking the target should be blown up by the Q > R > E combo without lich bane, right?
Anyways, I'll go get a nice bot game in to see how effective she is without lichbane. But I know in teamfights against actual players you really don't want to be in there long enough to proc an AA, do you?
NorthernDruid1 votesI wouldn't know against acutal players, but the point of lich bane is to help your burst, because it's and extra 75%base AD+50%AP ratio to your mark proc.
The ideal combo is Q>wait for CD>R>AA>Q>E>AA
Remember, you need AAs to proc mark now.
In bot games, I generally blow my enemies up easily after finishing gunblade and Lichbane. Lich Bane in particular (hell, even just the sheen) really helps your burst.
Remember that LB is 80 AP and some movespeed on top of the spellblade.
So for jungle, just finishing Magus+LB+Gunblade is now 240AP
240*0.5 = 120
And then she gets ~44+2.5lvl from her base AD Let's say you're level 11 (meaning 86 base AD) when you finish these three items?
It's 184.5 extra burst damage, per spellblade proc
More or less an extra E to your burst per proc.
And it keeps scaling up.
Granted you could get a Deathcap for just a bit more gold, it gives you 40 more AP by itself, and then 280*1.3 =84, so it's 124 more AP, 5% less movespeed, 300 more gold, a much worse build path,.
Now a full cycle of your combo, deathcap would give 75.6 more damage per Q(with proc), 25.2 more damage per E and 42 more damage per R.
It also increases your passive magic damage on hit by 14%of your AD, which at lvl 11 with gunblade should be 17.64
So assuming Q>R>AA>E is your full and only combo, that's 75.6+25.2+42+17.64=160.44 damage with deathcap instead.
So yeah, you're likely to get ever so slightly better results with lich bane than with deathcap.
At least before you get even more AP.
When that happens deatchap should slowly outscale lichbane.
and of course, there's always the option of getting both.
Anyway, I don't know about Katarina, but I do know that for Akali, the general order ought to be: Jungle Item(without enchant)->Hextech Revolver->[Finish gunblade+get Sheen+finish lichbane+get boots in whatever order makes sense that game]->Magus->Deathcap->[Void staff+finish boots]
Swap for whatever defensive item you need if you really need it. If you're doing fine without it the jungle item can go. But i'm usually going with trailblazer, so if you're going for something else and still feel like building glass cannon, you probably want to keep Stalker or Skirmisher.
So yeah tl;dr: Lich bane gives 80 AP and does 50%AP+75%base AD per proc.
If you just think of it as a 50% extra AP ratio on your mark proc, that should sound pretty damn good in and of itself really.
Also note I don't pvp much if at all. I'm too timid.
Armchair analysis on the other hand... oooh yeaaah.
P.S. stats based on her base AD and ratios from the wiki, which, y'know, is a wiki.
The item stats i pulled from here so I assume they're guaranteed to be accurate (at least it matched what I remember from ingame).