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When is split pushing worth it?

RyzeRework··2 votes·1,225 views

i was playing a game as shaco and i went 5/8/10 and i kept dieing while split pushing i got bot and mid tier 2 and inhib turrets but i dont know if its worth to get so many deaths i tried to use boxes as wards but their team collapsed on me and my team wasnt pushing at the same time i mean we won but is it really worth?

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Pryzum2 votes

The point of split-pushing is to establish an ultimatum. You want the enemy team to have to choose between the split-pusher and the other 4 grouped team members so that if they go for one, the other will be able to push and/or take objectives. However, for this to work, you and your teammates need to coordinate a situation where you are actually split AT THE SAME TIME. For example, if you start split-pushing and for whatever reason the rest of your team isn't grouped, the enemy team can easily pick you off then head for an objective or the rest of your team with no pressure on them whatsoever. This is NOT your team's fault, it falls upon the split-pusher to make the decision of whether he should begin his job or not. Hope this helps!

RyzeRework1 votes

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The point of split-pushing is to establish an ultimatum. You want the enemy team to have to choose between the split-pusher and the other 4 grouped team members so that if they go for one, the other will be able to push and/or take objectives. However, for this to work, you and your teammates need to coordinate a situation where you are actually split AT THE SAME TIME. For example, if you start split-pushing and for whatever reason the rest of your team isn't grouped, the enemy team can easily pick you off then head for an objective or the rest of your team with no pressure on them whatsoever. This is NOT your team's fault, it falls upon the split-pusher to make the decision of whether he should begin his job or not. Hope this helps!

so when im split pushing i have to decided weither or not i should group up with the team or keep on split pushing?

Pryzum1 votes

I guess it depends on the situation, and whether or not you have teleport or another teleport-like ability ready for use. But what I was trying to say was to coordinate with your team to where you are able to separately push objectives at the same time. If this means that you have to group with your team until you can split off and go push a side lane, then by all means do so (be sure to have proper vision/map awareness when heading off alone and split-pushing in general). Also, being able to communicate with your team on when they should force an objective or a fight is a big deal. For example, if you and your team are coordinating a split-push, and the enemy team decides to send 1 or more people to stop you from split-pushing, let your team know (ping it up). They can use this opportunity to initiate a 4 v 4, 4 v 3 that could possibly turn into a 5 v 4, 5 v 3 with your teleport or teleport-like ability. If they decide not to initiate or force an objective, don't worry because with most split-pushers kits, they are able to safely disengage or out-duel whoever comes to stop them, then just restart the split-pushing process by refreshing vision on the map going back to the lane. Communication is key!

Saruyan1 votes

sounds like if our team wouldve pushed you wouldve been fine.

usul12021 votes

The key to split pushing as shaco is watching where the other team is. if they come for you, then you have to decide to A: kill them (less likely, as someone who you can kill rarely comes) or B: go invis, hop a wall, and make the next team fight a 5v3 as you assassinate their adc/mage. Thats the terror of shaco split push, is that you should never get caught out. (bonus points if you pop ult and leave it pushing, so they kill it and realize it's too late)

SenpaiDontKillMe1 votes

when you are doing split push, you need to know that your teammates were ready to fight and hold those people at the same lane to prevent you got caught. and make sure when you got a big wave at other lane to push before you going to start a team fight .even you didnt got anything from the team fight, you got minion to push the lane.

SenpaiDontKillMe1 votes

when you are doing split push, you need to know that your teammates were ready to fight and hold those people at the same lane to prevent you got caught. and make sure when you got a big wave at other lane to push before you going to start a team fight .even you didnt got anything from the team fight, you got minion to push the lane.

RyzeRework1 votes

thanks im sliver 2 and wanna improve my split pushing cause i find myself getting caught out i think its easier when i play sion top cause i can just ult away and it makes it easier

Only Play Darius1 votes

Always.

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