Thoughts on shapeshifters?

Gall·8/8/2019, 3:21:37 AM·1 votes·690 views

I had a tier two shyvana with bloodthirster, warmogs, and rfc, a tier one gnar, and a tier two nidalee along with blademasters and imperial using draven, darius, shen and aatrox. My blademasters did a lot more damage and tanked more overall. I felt like my shapeshifters were useless.

Anyone else think shapeshifters are weak overall?

3 Comments

Damoklese8/8/2019, 4:25:45 AM2 votes

For the most part.. yeah. Shapeshifters themselves arent too bad.. but their synergy is crap. Having three of them out there just for the minor heal when you shift is not great.

Shyvana is great with Aurelion. Swain and Gnar are great on any team. Elise and Nid are meh. They arent too bad but for the most part they drop off HARD by the 3rd or 4th stage.

Cräfty8/8/2019, 5:38:59 AM2 votes

They are really bad atm. They almost get one shot instantly by all the meta comps, and CC'd to death, at the start of the fight.

  • The only one who I consider decent, at best, is Gnar, since he is really good as an individual unit and his ult counters Rangers and Sorcerers pretty well. Basically he counters any comp that loves to stay stacked for some reason or another.

  • Even Swain has fallen off of the meta because of the abundance of Red buff and item 3165 in every comp (healing nullification).

  • Shyvana is really item dependant and very risky to run her in your comp. Without item 3083, item 3046 and Dragon's Claw, she's pretty much useless. Also, with Red Buff and item 3165 in the game, she melt instantly with all the % max HP damage they do. Not to mention all the bugs she has atm (AFK after transforming, getting stuck mid-transformation after colliding with any unit on the board, etc.). I know AurelionSol and Shyvana is a really good combo, but with how hard it is to get ASol and how Void (true damage) is ruling the meta, it's pretty much a death sentence to go Dragons.

  • Nidalee is good early game, if you can get her to 2 star. Her healing and her AD and AS from Wild buff, is actually really good early game, but she falls off mid to late game.

  • Elise is really bad, one of the worst, if not the worst, units in the game. Up there with MissFortune and Lissandra.

Basically, Shapeshifters can't even transform, most of the time, due to all the CC and damage the meta comps provide. And even when they managed to transform, they're easily countered by % max HP damage and healing nullification from Red Buff and item 3165. And besides Gnar, they are all pretty much item relyant and you're sacrificing the items to build low tier completed items instead of just going a different comp that utilizes S tier and A tier items.

#feelsbadman. I kinda like their playstyle and it's so satisfying to see them transform and kick ass, when they do. But Reality is harsh, man! RIP.

Werdi8/8/2019, 11:47:04 AM2 votes

They suck. Their trait should make them transform faster instead of this 60% extra health because they wont transform most of times. If you want tanks go brawlers