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Any tips for climbing in tft?

Addam··1 votes·2,525 views

I've been having some extremely hard and tilting games to which i can't seem to get out of gold atm! The game mode is fun, but literally braum and rangers are almost always picked, and I don't know how at all to play around it.

Does anyone have any tips to perhaps win some more games?

Thanks!

26 Comments

Barkley5 votes

Howdy! Plat 4 here.

  • Don't go into a game with a comp in mind. Play the cards you're given.
  • Look up meta strats so you know your options, but don't force them just because they're meta. Forcing comps will always kill you.
  • Know which items are good on which champs. (On-hit items are particularly good on people that attack fast, or attack multiple people, for example.)
  • Spend ALL of your money early, until you get a few 2-star champs. Once you get some 2-star champs you can decide your comp.
  • Once you get your comp together, SAVE YOUR MONEY. Having 60-80 gold late game is huge for making adjustments to your field!
  • It is ok to lose health.
  • 1g champ drop rates drop as your player levels up. Re-rolling for them is a waste of time past like.... level 5ish.
  • 3-star champs are a bonus, not a win condition. I win the majority of my games with all 2-star champs.
  • Watch other people's boards! It is a shared champ pool. If you're trying to 3-star a lucian, but someone already has a 3-star lucian -- you're likely wasting your time and your money. Default hotkeys to help you are 1, 2, 3.
  • Know how to pivot into a different comp. If you're running sorcerers and someone picks up dragons, you need to be able to pivot into something else. Keep your options open.
  • Carousel is for items. Not champs.
  • Spatulas are great and all -- but they're risky. Its almost always better to get the guaranteed completed item than it is to gamble on a spatula. Only grab spatulas if you have the other item you need in-hand already, or if you got a spatula from creeps. Otherwise you might be sitting on a dead spatula all game long when you could have had a warmogs, or a gunblade, etc.
  • Level up! But not too much... gauge when a man advantage can help you, and when that money could have been spent better on re-rolls or champions.
  • Don't worry about getting 1st place. Its nice when it happens, but its ambitious. Concentrate on NOT being in the bottom 4 instead. LP gain is LP gain. +4 or +40 is still a win.
  • Don't combine your items until you know what your comp is gonna look like. There's no reason to put a blood thirster on your tier 1 garen in the 3rd round.
  • Spamming your Little Legends emotes during carousel rounds gives you a +1% chance to win. Do it always.
Sirsir1 votes
  • Spamming your Little Legends emotes during carousel rounds gives you a +1% chance to win. Do it always.

When I get Hushtail I will NEVER! STOP! TWERKING!

Elite4Runner1 votes

Stick. To. The. Meta.

Barkley1 votes

Meh... yes and no.

You should KNOW the meta, so you know your options.

But you should never force a comp -just because- its a meta comp. Forcing a comp will nearly always get you killed.

Know its there. Know when you can pivot into it -- but don't go into a game like "I'm going void this game!" because you likely won't get it.

What might be more beneficial is knowing how to COUNTER the meta.... so that while all these meta sheep are building their void brawlers, you can take it down with ease with something like yordles + glacial or yordles + knights or knights + glacial or whatever.

Elite4Runner1 votes

Maybe I should clarify, .. I was on break at work so my comment was necessarily brief.

What I meant was, try to stick to compositions that are shown to be effective, and prioritize transitions that are more commonly effective.

Don't try to invent a meta might be a better way of saying it.

CurS1VE1 votes

this is the dumbest thing a person can say at this stage of the Game. TFT has been out for like a few months? There literally IS NO META

Elite4Runner3 votes

Lol there was a meta forming before the game hit live servers.

CurS1VE1 votes

K what is this meta then?

Barkley5 votes

Previous meta was demons. Now its void. There is definitely a meta. Don't get mad at other people because you don't know something that most people know.

Instead, try to find the information yourself. Educate yourself. Seek knowledge.

Google is your friend. Also, any of the 500 carbon copy websites out there that have tier lists. Also, any of the 100s of videos by pro streamers outlining what's strong and what's not. Also..... play like.... 12 games of TFT. You'll very quickly realize what you're CONSISTENTLY getting beaten by.

Also... why is your attitude so bad?

CurS1VE2 votes

Void Assassin was literally the thing that everyone was running when TFT launched, no i'm not mad. I'm saying that when a game / rank is new that "Meta" is a bit of a silly thing to tell someone to play because the game being so new means it's really hard to accurately judge how things work because there is little data to show what is "Most Effective" overall.

Void is just a simple perk, it doesn't mean it is the most effective though. Voids are easy to get and they do good damage,.

It's weird that you think my attitude is bad simply cause i said there isn't really a true meta because the game is so new. To really define what is most effective takes a lot of games played. Hence why you look at some other games and often what you see in the first 1-2 Seasons of gameplay look drastically different to what it is after those early years especially a game like Riot where they actually let Meta develop over time, if Riot was over tuning a specific comp or champ to force a meta to evolve based on that champ then you could easily say that "X" is meta, but Riot does not do that so the idea of looking at something as Meta is actually pretty closed minded.

I am consistently getting beat by..hmm, well there are all sorts of different things; Actually i run into Volibear RFC + red Buff a lot and that usually dicks me over..Lets see...Hmmm not too many voids tbh, or demons; lotta Draven stuff, some Blademasters here and there; lotta Glacial and Elementals.

I mean there is overall a huge amount of diversity even with how limited things can seem; I've played against some comps where they just happen to get a lot of items and all lv 3's with their 1 cost champs and it can be pretty difficult to win those as well.

I'd like to refute your statement furthermore by saying that because there is such a huge amount of power in items, the idea that just building 'Voids' as you said, would actually not mean to much if you never get items or if your opponents just happen to get more.

When you say "Meta" It is talking about the Most Effective Team Advantage, Voids are all fine and dandy but to say they are literally just statistically the "best" is foolish because for 1 (as i said earlier) there isn't really any data to fully support that statement considering this game is so new and 2 because the variables of determining whats good is highly subjective because there isn't a standard yet established, so you could read MULTIPLE different articles from different authors and see multiple different pov on the game and each person could feel something is strong or stronger than the other..The point is that it's those peoples opinion, it doesn't make it fact, and to determine something to be "Most Effective" it takes data and at least some factual stats that have a long enough time duration to measure the highs and lows.

There are things that are good and may seem strong but there are a lot of variables in play and not much to measure those variables with (yet).

I'd be more interested in the actual measure of the champs individually and knowing when they are best rather than saying "Voids are Meta" that doesn't actually tell me anything about the strengths of the champs themselves and how good they are.

So yeah, It's just a ridiculous statement and mindset to tell someone to play "Meta" stuff when the game has been out for 3 months and it's still in it's infancy, meta's take time to evolve into if it's done in a healthy way, Riot could force it's hand into something for sure but it looks like they are doing quite the opposite (similar to how they handled League S1)

I'd like to read what you are reading tb, what site told you that "Voids are Meta" specifically because I want to know how they came to that conclusion since win rate % is probably impossible to figure out at this stage and did Riot even release that yet? I mean there is a Simulator on op.gg that is like just for fun, nothing really too factual on it considering you can't put items on ppl or see how often a combination wins, so yeah, Love to see where you heard that Voids are Meta because by that logic i could build a Team entirely of Voids and should be able to win..Oh wait, I can't do that can i? Because there aren't 8 Voids.

Barkley2 votes

Holy.... go outside, man.

TL;DR

Elite4Runner1 votes

[sg-miss-fortune]

RIGHT! XD You just can't reason with people like this.

Nik Nikerson1 votes

A meta game absolutely does not take time to develop. A meta game is simply the broader strategies and tactics that are being played. It may change quickly and drastically, but it always exists.

CurS1VE1 votes

no that's not what it is, it means the most effective team advantage. When there is no baseline there is no meta, it's a time of establishment of what the meta would may or could eventually be.

Nik Nikerson1 votes

It doesn't actually matter what the mathematically most effective team is in TfT if no one knows what it is. What matters is what people perceive to be the most effective team and strategy to be. Now, once there are actual numbers to establish what the most effective strategy is, that will likely become the meta, because people want to win. But what is meta is not by default the best way of playing the game. The meta is what you're most likely to see played, not the actual best way of playing.

CurS1VE2 votes

WRONG! There were speculations on what is good and why! That doesn't make it meta! When you talk about being "Meta" It takes stats, cold hard numbers that back up the premise "This is the best / most effective"

If I say "I like Blademasters cause I win a lot with them" That doesn't mean that Blademasters are Meta, My opinion could be that I enjoy them and like how they fight more than others, so I personally put higher priority into getting those but that doesn't mean that Blademasters are Meta.

Meta is based on what works consistently and most importantly has a large amount of data to back it up.

Just because your favorite streamer or author says something is good that doesn't make it Meta..Sorry bub, there is no meta yet because there is no data yet; we can't see the trends because Riot hasn't released a lot of things yet because it's a new game.

0megon1 votes

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Meh... yes and no.

You should KNOW the meta, so you know your options.

But you should never force a comp -just because- its a meta comp. Forcing a comp will nearly always get you killed.

Know its there. Know when you can pivot into it -- but don't go into a game like "I'm going void this game!" because you likely won't get it.

What might be more beneficial is knowing how to COUNTER the meta.... so that while all these meta sheep are building their void brawlers, you can take it down with ease with something like yordles + glacial or yordles + knights or knights + glacial or whatever.

I think you should be kind of ,,soft-forcing". Know which comps are good and then if you are getting main pieces of that comp just force the rest. And you should not go some comps as they are not that good atm. Once the mode gets more balanced this might not be the correct way bot so far it worked well for me.

Homeless Veteran1 votes

Or wait until shit meta changes

420 grams1 votes

Luck and get the OP champions

VAPOR331 votes

Find a wizard Get magic wand hooha alacazam Invest in lucky rabbits foot Pick a shit ton of 4 leaf clovers


Your now ready for .000001% increased winrate.....but probably more losing like everyone else.

CurS1VE1 votes

I started Iron 2 and I am up to Silver 1 in about 2 1/2 days give or take.

General advice is don't just toss items on anything, I wouldn't combine anything early unless you are sure it's something that can be put on a different champ if need be. Often I'll sit on components till I have an idea of what I want to build with what I have (comp included).

This gives you a lot more flexibility to play around with since if you built something like a Titantic Hydra Early for your Graves but now all you are getting Mid / Late are Casters and you haven't been able to upgrade that Same Graves from 2 star to 3 star then that Titantic Hydra was basically wasted; So if you are building a Titantic Hydra (just as a example) you need to have an idea of how it can transition into your mid game comp.

2nd thing is don't fight the RNG, this is something that takes awhile to really get use to; for example I just got 1st in a Game with Shapeshifters..I have NEVER ran Shapeshifters before let alone did I actually WANT to run it; but the game gave me 3 Elise early..AND THEN it gave me another 2..And then A bunch of Nidalee as well after I had grabbed that Elise...I said well ok looks like I'm gonna try and run a Shapeshifter comp!

Early on it sucked, I think I lost 13 straight or something?? But My elise was Full Evolved and I tossed a RFC on her as well as a Titantic Hydra AND a Red Buff! Then I got some Sorcerers which Included Twisted Fate for quicker Shifts

AND THEN I Got ASOL AND Shyvana literally RNG magic made the ASOL lv 2 after 1 Round and Shyvana almost just as Quickly..Never played with a Dragon Sub Theme before either.

Point is I went into the round fully expecting nothing, don't expect certain comps or items ever, instead have an idea of your champs that you may enjoy that are splashable example Pyke and TF are 2 that imo are splashable in almost any comp regardless of whether it's mid/early or Late, so even if I get a Elise sorta comp I know that if I put priority in getting a TF or Pyke (even in Carousel) that will really help my chances, same thing with Lulu as well, these 3 imo are staples and can be plugged into almost anything to shore it up.

Also i don't know if you have a TFT Item List Cheat sheet

But this really helps me to make decisions on what i may want based on the component(s) i have.

Last thing is to not lock into 1 comp, especially the later the game goes, it COULD be possible that you start off with Nobles and holy smokes you just get so luck RNG that all of them end up getting upgraded to Lv 3 and have the exact items they need to be great all by the end game...It's possible...But it's also highly unlikely and generally speaking you should be willing to dump large portions of champs at the drop of a dime if i'm being frank..

For example, if you are getting dumpstered with some sort of Glacial comp, your Ashe is still lv 1, you have no items on her; you are getting slaughtered over and over by the same teams and you are on a healthy losing streak and the matches are not close then hopefully you were paying attention to what the RNG has been trying to hand you. Always prepare, if you notice these picks like Cho'gath and Kennen coming up and it's 2 at a Time, even if they don't fit into your comp currently you should be getting them anyways just incase another comes. Or Yordles for example is something that constantly pops, all sorts of yordles all the time..If I'm running something like Glacials or idk maybe Void something or whateva, and I see yordles coming up, I will slowly (not that slow tho) start plucking them up because the fact is they are all strong even on their own without the perk; a lv 2 Veigar or Kennen or Lulu has a lot of merit in my opinion and if you have some items to toss on them as well then hey you know what they can splash and play in your current comp to cover whatever you need.

Things like that; Now I may think those 3 Yordles are borderline Staple picks (Lulu is for sure a Staple imo) and maybe someone else doesn't

Pika Fox1 votes

Be flexible. Know what you can make with what you are getting, and what works good as a transition if you cant get what you need later or other comps that are strong to yours start to become dominant.

Remember, anything 4th and better is a win and climbing. Top 2 is ideal, but youre not going to get it every game. As a rule of thumb, 5 is a minimal loss, 4 is a minimal gain, so even if youre netting 5th or better, if youre getting a few 1s and 2s thrown in there youre climbing.

GipJoCalderone1 votes

For braum and rangers, on-hit items is always a good option to choose, or demon.

Kanzler1 votes

Be lucky

Werdi1 votes

Hello,

So as im assuming that braun has a thornmail on it, get gunblade for your carry (atrox, voli, kenen...). I also assume that you dont want to play rangers so yordels can be quite effective against it combined with sorcerers.

As general tips cc is a must in this game, therefore, try surviving early (nobles buff is awesome early) as well as any 2 stars. Morelo and guardian angel can be used pretty early because you will swll those units and the ítems fit most comps. Mid game you will want something like 3-4 damage dealers (gunslingers, sorceres, blademasters...) and 2 tanks. Gnar, cho and sejuani are the units you want because the cc they provide will give u more time that garen or darius. (If you gave garen a morelo give him to cho now) Lategame you will be finishing your damage comp (4 rangers, 6 guns, 6sorc..) and should keep 2 cc frontliners.

The only exeption to this could be assassins, but we leave that for other day.

RageLessPlayMore1 votes

Maybe pick the champions you like and know builds for in normal league and see how it goes. Aim for a top 4 spot each game to begin with just to get some lp on the board...then you can go for some 1st place finishes the more you play.

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