To much random shit happening, too many useless buffs that do literally nothing, and anything that ISNT ocean mages is just gonna autolose. At least there was counterplay last season, outside of hyperrolling and hoping for ungodly luck to completely change your comp in the middle of the game
CominTowardsYa18 votesNow?
lol, you don't need the word now in that sentence.
Gamma Sector11 votesIt was great before. Had a heavy emphasis on learning how to manage your money, and using what you're given to squeak out wins.
Now its... get ocean mages or poison predators. That's it, that's the entirety of TFT now
RandomYuki4 votespreds glacial and summoners
Gamma Sector1 votesehhhh I rarely see summoners, and glacial isn't that bad with all the dodge chance stuff in the game now. Summoners and glacials both get slapped by pred and mages
Illabethe2 votesKind of depends on itemization.
KillerQueenXIII1 votes[{quoted}](name=Gamma Sector,realm=NA,application-id=RaE1aOE7,discussion-id=o3Z9LbOi,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-26T05:40:52.150+0000)
ehhhh I rarely see summoners, and glacial isn't that bad with all the dodge chance stuff in the game now. Summoners and glacials both get slapped by pred and mages
Ah, I see... You're new to TFT Set 2, I take it? Well, for future reference, Summoners and Glacial Berserkers are two of the most broken comps in the game right now. Absolutely nothing compares to Glacial Berserker comps, since they're incredibly broken and allow you to build into pretty much anything (My favorite is going poison, predators, and glacial berserkers all at the same time, so that I can just go afk for like 10 minutes, and come back to a win).
CominTowardsYa8 votesYeah I will agree I think it is pretty brainless.
Gamma Sector6 votesJust sucks, cuz I was plat last season and now, if I don't build one of two builds, I will autolose and be hardstuck bronze
CominTowardsYa1 votesDamn...
ThunderCraft3 votesno big brain moments in TFT set 2
jankohottie9 votesGlad I'm not the only one that thinks they ruined TFT this season. They tried to do way too much with this elemental theme.
HerbertyXsSn6 votesThe entire fucking game sucks right now. Welcome to the party.
LaMaPhUcKeRzz4 votesit was never good
Sanitarium333 votesMy opinion that games with meta tend to become boring, repetitive and unbalanced. LoL is not far away and it had entire seasons where you saw at pro levels same bans, same picks, same win rates for same champs/ comps. When you get to this point of building up a meta, it means you need to rework.
Going back to LoL example: when you build a game with 100+ champs, but only a handful is quickly becoming viable and the rest 100 - handful never get to be played again, then you can see how detrimental meta really is.
Meta is the death of any entertainment activity. More example? Back when Chelsea FC was a thing a certain folk turned it and its strategy into meta. Suddenly, you knew the result of a soccer game before it started.
So if you want to see the same shit every time, play a meta- based game and encourage the meta, so devs can sit in their offices smoking pot instead of balancing shit out.
P.S.: If they'd work for me and build this meta shit, they'd be fired the next minute. Cheers! :)
Semaj3xt4h2 votesI agree man, im always building off meta builds in aram or trying to think outside the box in TFT but it just doesn't pan out like it used too... It used to be fun turning aatrox into a sorcerer or varus into a sorc, or finding clever ways to use graves spread shot mechanic... Now there are just clear better choices especially items, I stacked up my zyra last night with items but 90% of the matches she only ever got ONE cast off... Meanwhile olaf just wrecking through my whole team... I even had 4 3 star inferno's, RIP..... The meta this set is worse then ever, they need to tweak the numbers because there are juts clear bad choices now.
ThunderCraft2 votesinfernos only work if they are strong otherwise their quirk doesnt deal any damage.
Sanitarium331 votesThe first bonus is still demented on a star 3 Zyra. ;) Maybe you hit some mystics with star 2 infernos.
ThunderCraft1 votesyou got it wrong
i will paraphrase it, to make the most of your inferno bonus you need to hit real hard.
Semaj3xt4h1 votesI had 4 3 star infernos, diana/varus/kindred/zyra and zyra had rabadons + jeweled gauntlet... varus has hurricane, diana even had 1-2 items and kindred had 3 full items... I still only got 3rd... RIP
Ensign Torpedo3 votesI'm on a 4 placements streak placed 4 or higher using exclusively Berserkers. It's an excellent class, easily beats mages (Unless they've got something like 3 star Veigar on wolves). You gotta try each and every class and origin to find your favourite.
ThunderCraft3 votesTFT sucks now
sadly yes
IronyAndSublime3 votesIt's almost as if Rise Of The Elements was a mistake
ZaFishbone2 votesOcean is literally one of the most useless buffs.
iwanttobebronze51 votesOcean is literally one of the most useless buffs.
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ZaFishbone1 votesif you want machine-gun Veighar/kindred/kha you just stack 2 
Also, despite the fact that ocean seems to have good synergy with mages, due to the buff and having 2 mages, those particular 2 mages are some of the worst mages.
ThunderCraft1 votesit doesnt matter ocean have many perma stunners, if you stack them thats it.
ZaFishbone1 votesMost ocean perma stunners aren't mages, tho.
BlackEyesBlue2 votesI must say I've had MANY games where I've gotten to the final 3 at 90+ hp only to insta lose 8 in a row to machine gun Veigar ulting every 2 seconds...
Also, Yet to get a single Lux, and just went 3 games in a row with 0 offensive item drops....
Xhaiden2 votesWell, even if i do anything by the book and things work well for me - for most part... i still loose "to luck"in the end...
As can be seen in above screenshots (all 4 of them taken in same day) - there's no winner (1st place) with the Ocean + Mages mix, yet... they all managed to max 3 of their desired units to lvl 3. In 3 of those 4 images - i went for the Ocean + Mages mix (current meta) - yet i lost every time... Either 6 light units, Predator and Glacial/Poison or Ranger + Inferno... having 3 units lvl 3 in that mix - implies a higher potential for sustaining damage - and also higher damage overall.
Original Sin2 votesthis shit is more unfair than last set. all i see in ranked is people forcing ocean mage summoners, hyper roll predator or blademaster nocturne. those are the only 3 shit i see. nocturnes countered by pd so shit comp, preds cant be countered because theyre all fkn 3 stars and mages are countered by what? poison? LMAO they have a built in battery from ocean that gives that extra mana. crystal? ashe is garbage why even bother building her? like at least you can counter assassins with that bullshit 100% dodge crit strikes meanwhile FKN dragon claw is 50% mr. LOL
this set is fucked. id rather play against dragons every game because that was the latest of the late game. fkn HR preds stomp early and win hard late, mages speak comes online once you get brand. disgusting champ that throws 1 ult and does 1.5-2k dmg by himself without items
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P0IS0N IVY2 votesI've won with a variety of teamcomps. Ocean doesn't seem more overbearing than other comps to me.
Konsequence2 voteswho knew that a game mode meant to draw in money and played mobile for the asians and their micro transactions has very little substance
Yordle Xayah2 votesNow
[sg-lulu]
Xhaiden2 votesHere's the results for today...
Once again - aiming for comps revolving around Ocean (current meta - so to speak) - and i lost 6 out of 6 game. My best game was 2nd place - but good "luck" beating 3 predator lvl 3 + poison and druids (good for tanking/sustain).
https://imgur.com/vAm1xIk (you'd think 4 mystic - 4 ocean and 3 light could be enough, but... with my luck i couldn't even get 1 unit to lvl 3 / since TFT = RNG - clearly, your luck is what counts the most).
To summit up: 2 x 8th place + 2 x 6th place + 1 x 4th place and 1 x 2nd place.
Heroboy101 votesHere's the results for today...
Once again - aiming for comps revolving around Ocean (current meta - so to speak) - and i lost 6 out of 6 game. My best game was 2nd place - but good "luck" beaten 3 predator lvl 3 + poison and druids (good for tanking/sustain).
I see only 3 Ocean units there and no mage. Gamma Sector is talking about Ocean + Mage. He means 6 Mages + 4 Oceans. It's a different thing.
4 Ocean = 35 mana in 4 sec => almost double mana income.
Xhaiden1 votesI see only 3 Ocean units there and no mage. Gamma Sector is talking about Ocean + Mage. He means 6 Mages + 4 Oceans. It's a different thing.
4 Ocean = 35 mana in 4 sec => almost double mana income.
Qiyana was Ocean too that round - and with her it's 4.
4 Ocean + 6 mages are not so easy to gather (Spatula can help - but drops are RNG too - and if you're among the first at carousel - you only get leftovers... rarely the good stuff). Especially since almost everyone is chasing that mix (after all - this is the current meta / most broken build). Out of 6 games - i only saw one with 6 mages - tho, he had 0 oceans (Mages + Inferno + Ranger).
Shieda Kayn1 votes"now"
Semaj3xt4h1 votesWhile I agree there seems to be alot of uselessness all around, what really irks me is theres always 2-3 people going straight for olaf and stacking items on him. Which is fine, im not jealous IDC im not even going for him usually because I prefer to make less popular things work or think outside the box. It's just frustrating to see the same kind of teams win and now tibbers is still OP as he is.
True Garen1 votesMuch of the complaint has to do with a change implemented just before Set 2; the higher early damage.
Kenneky1 votesI don't know about you, but I'm having success running this deck. http://prikachi.com/images/765/9696765W.png I barely run any mages so I don't know about this part.
Sanitarium331 votesGood job making that work! Gz! I won't show you mine, but on the subject of predators being so op I have to say I found a counter to slap them in the face late game especially. Ocean mages too.
But glacials, man... Rito, get your shit right!
Kenneky1 votesGood job making that work! Gz! I won't show you mine, but on the subject of predators being so op I have to say I found a counter to slap them in the face late game especially. Ocean mages too.
But glacials, man... Rito, get your shit right!
Thanks! You can try my deck out. It's quite fun. All of my units on my deck sympathise really well with each other and I end up with 5 or 6 bonuses by late game. Most of them are cheap units so It's easy to get 2 or 3 of them to 3 stars. I kind of wish they make elements counter other elements like in Pokemon. Like let's say Infernal counter Glacial or Ocean counter Poison, not be just items, but that maybe will be too strong of a counter?
Sanitarium333 votesAbout counters, glacials and Olaf:
For all of the above: the idea with glacials was - if I'm not wrong - to make an anti-burst trait by offering a cc tool. It's fine on paper, but when you build damage items and extra traits into a cc machine like 6 glacials, suddendly the trait without damage that was suppose to counter burst becomes too damaging in itself, which triggers the true imbalance.
Read this, Riot devs!
RageLessPlayMore1 votesJust played a game after taking a break, and jeez does all the extra added effects make it look like a cluster muck of what your eyes and brain can take in between each fast stage. Giving us more doesn't equate to better...doubt i'll playing more and will just stay at the rank i am now.
The Fat God1 votesjust had a guy use perma shield thresh. fun.
i love when i build a comp. then continue to get nothing but healths, armor and cloaks or swords. IM USING A GOD DAMN WOODLAND for the missions. BUT my enemies have rangers with double rage blade lmfao. screw this rng bullshit
Sanitarium331 votesAaa... you should see full rangers triple rageblade varus! :)))
Herå1 votesidk, i've been having fun with Warden/Summoners
Xhaiden1 votes...and anything that ISNT ocean mages is just gonna autolose.
Once again, last game looks like this...
Besides Ocean and Mages... Glacial, Poison, Warden, Inferno, Summoner, Predator, Ranger, Shadow, Light and Mountain - are still among the main picks. While Mystic, Avatar, Desert, Electric and Cloud tend to be more situational.
There's not much difference from last season. Even then we had a meta - where some comps were more broken than others. Quite impossible to counter too - since TFT is heavily RNG based. The Ocean and Mages from now - were the Sorcerer + Knights and Phantom from last season (especially the 1st half). Game would start - and 5 seconds latter - you'd have 2 units standing vs 90% of the enemy late game. Still, same as now - you needed some luck to get the required units (or more like... a lot of luck). Cause on the other hand - the first half was also ruled by Knights/Blademaster/Phantom and 6 Nobles. Talk about broken comps "with no counter...". At least that's how it went in the 1st half - cause the end of the season was ruled by Void, Brawlers and Hex-tech. Followed by Dragon, Guardians and Knights. As mentioned above: there was ALWAYS a meta. For this reason - i even quit TFT in last month of last season... cause frankly - chasing 3 comps became a real bore. Heavily repetitive. Mid game and 6 out of 8 players went for knights. And no, I'm not exaggerating - still have some screenshots from "those cringe and boring games..." - such as...
Knights and Brawlers everywhere. Fun, year right...
[zombie-nunu-bummed]
adandalishandali1 votesyeah it sucks now i used to play alot of guardians but i would only build guardians with max amount of leonas and braums i would buff braum and he would've had become invincible now everybody goes glacial and pred that sucks 
VvVVvV1 votesEvery game is Mage, Glacial or Lights now
