TFT's designers should disable item drops for themselves

IcyWard·Jul 23, 2019·10 votes·5,169 views

Seriously, play 2 - 3 matches without receiving a single item drop. I dare you. See how it feels to compete against opponents with triple, quadruple, or even quintuple the number of items.

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TimeToTrollJul 23, 20195 votes

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Vegan VeigarJul 23, 20193 votes

carousel items

EATARIJul 23, 20192 votes

I mean, it’s usually fine from my experience. I just shift my focus to a less item reliant composition with a stronger late game and play eco.

IcyWardJul 23, 20192 votes

And what do you do about other people going for a strong late game and eco, but with 6 items instead of 1?

EATARIJul 23, 20191 votes

The item drops are weighted, so even if you only have 2 items by krugs, you are much more likely to get items in the future. So by the time you hit late game, everyone should have 5-7 items regardless of your early luck. If you somehow get to late game with only 1 item still, then god bless your soul because that’s incredibly unlucky.

IcyWardJul 24, 20192 votes

People keep saying that there is a comeback mechanic regarding item quantity, but I have yet to see it in action. I don't think it actually exists. People behind on items tend to stay behind the entire match.

I do recall a game or two where the only items I received were the ones from the carousel, but it's very frequent that I don't receive any items from the first 3 matches at all. Krugs tend to be the first to provide additional items.

AsukazzzJul 24, 20191 votes

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People keep saying that there is a comeback mechanic regarding item quantity, but I have yet to see it in action. I don't think it actually exists. People behind on items tend to stay behind the entire match.

I do recall a game or two where the only items I received were the ones from the carousel, but it's very frequent that I don't receive any items from the first 3 matches at all. Krugs tend to be the first to provide additional items.

One of the devs mentioned it so it probably does exist. They didn't mention how much your odds actually improved or whether it resets on a single item (I'd wager that it does). It also doesn't amount for much unless it's also lowering the odds of getting something based on how many items someone already has, which I doubt.

BreganJul 24, 20193 votes

got 1 item from minions, other guy got 4. got 2 items from krugs, that guy got 2, he's still up 3 items. got 2 items from wolves, he got 3 items from wolves, he's now up 4 items. got 2 items from birds, he got 1 item from birds. thats 7 items vs 10 items. he's still up 3 items.

i dont give a fuck about your "weight", its still imbalanced. just normalize the fucking item count already.

Z3SIeeperJul 24, 20191 votes

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you are much more likely to get items in the future.

#~~Guaranteed~~ LIKELY

Pika FoxJul 23, 20191 votes

I played a game where i only got 1 item drop early. Still came second. Everyone else had far more items than i did.

Items are a minor part of the game. Composition matters far more. I even made numerous mistakes because i was constantly being bombarded with texts irl mid way in and i swapped to gunslingers a bit early and didnt swap my two items over in time.

Rarely will items completely screw you out of doing well, and in games they do you can still easily place top 4, or even 5th and lose minimal LP.

ToolmakerJul 23, 20191 votes

It's all rng. They probably didn't get all the items they wanted, especially because of the carousel round, and killed each other off. I also got second like that, but only because I faced a host 4 times in a row, froze the guy who eventually won with 2 glacials, and the other people killed each other off. It's all rng.

IcyWardJul 23, 20192 votes

A good comp is still worse than a good comp with items. Which would you rather have?

6 Nobles with 2 items -or- 6 Nobles with 6 items

Remember, every item provides stat bonuses on top of their other effects.

Pika FoxJul 23, 20191 votes

Except this is irrelevant. If i have 6 nobles, im coming in at least 4th, so ive already won.

IcyWardJul 23, 20192 votes

Being proud of finishing 4th out of 10 is like celebrating a D-

TrenixPLJul 23, 20191 votes

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Being proud of finishing 4th out of 10 is like celebrating a D-

4th out of 8, where you getting 10 from?

Pika FoxJul 23, 20191 votes

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Being proud of finishing 4th out of 10 is like celebrating a D-

Dont play then. 4/8 is a victory, and thats literally all that matters.

If you can consistently even remain too 5, youll easily climb.

You have the wrong mindset for this game.

Karn BishopJul 23, 20194 votes

Pika fox played blind devotion, pika fox is confused and hurt himself in confusion.

SkullgettiJul 24, 20191 votes

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I played a game where i only got 1 item drop early. Still came second. Everyone else had far more items than i did.

Items are a minor part of the game. Composition matters far more. I even made numerous mistakes because i was constantly being bombarded with texts irl mid way in and i swapped to gunslingers a bit early and didnt swap my two items over in time.

Rarely will items completely screw you out of doing well, and in games they do you can still easily place top 4, or even 5th and lose minimal LP.

This might be true....

Until you face a guinsoos, infinity edge, bloodthirster lvl 3 vayne while you're struggling to get anything that isn't chainvest on your lvl 2 elise

Pika FoxJul 24, 20191 votes

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This might be true....

Until you face a guinsoos, infinity edge, bloodthirster lvl 3 vayne while you're struggling to get anything that isn't chainvest on your lvl 2 elise

Vaynes pretty bad, so a stacked vayne wont he too terrible. And thats just one person, so losing to them isnt the end of the world.

And whats wrong with thornmail on elise? You WANT her to have defensive items.