When Will Bard Make An Actual Appearance in Lore Outside His Own Intro-Type Lore?

Meep Man··4 votes·1,161 views

Anyone else find it strange how Bard, outside of his own lore, isn't present at all in the lore? Like, he is one of if not THE most powerful character in the entire game and has yet to even be mentioned in the lore.

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Strawberrycocoa2 votes

I'm not sure how he even would appear in lore since outside of the game he's an immeasurably powerful probably-godlike cosmic force.

GreenLore1 votes

Honestly I think people overestimate Bard A LOT. I mean sure,he is pretty powerful,but a lot of fans seem to be under the impression that bard could wipe out anyone if he wants to,which I really doubt.

Bard seems more like the kind of spirit who fixes things by doing stuff that seems unimportant at first,but have a great effect later on. For example I could imagine that he planted the seed for the tree that maokai posesses or that he might have saved Azirs child. However for stuff like this,he doesn't need a lot of offensive power.

Meep Man3 votes

Bard has offensive power, but will never use it for such unless the future demands it. He is like a guardian of all dimensions. Riot has stated Bard can warp time and space to fix "broken" universes, but chances are it would never get to that point unless a being equally powerful to Bard (only beings coming close being Aurelion and Kindred, being basically the same area of power), but none that would WANT to do such a thing has been revealed yet. Until the Void gets a big lore story and the "Mysterious Laugh" is revealed, I don't think anyone could possibly measure up to Bard in power.

Imagine someone who can warp time and space AND can travel through dimensions. Not only this, but he can also see into the future or knows exactly what needs to happen for things to go the way they are supposed to be, so he can plan ahead almost infinitely. Heck, maybe someone CAN fight and equal Bard lore-wise in the game right now. However, chances are Bard would NEVER let that happen unless the only right way IS Bard's death. Basically, due to how overpowered Bard is lore-wise, the only way Bard can die is if Bard himself allows it or if we have an "anti-Bard" introduced into the lore.

It's like this. You could have a ginormous gun that is basically unbeatable and fires shots that can destroy planets. You plan to use it to fight Bard and/or destroy the universe. However, you DON'T have that gun. Why? Bard. In fact, if you making that gun is impossible to stop without harming other bits of the universe, Bard can go even further back and just stop you from being born in the first place. That's why you can't beat Bard. Immortal, time and space bending god that can see into the future and travel across multiple dimensions. How do you beat that without being an evil version of the same thing?

GreenLore1 votes

It was never said that Bard can travel back in time,thats just one power that fans suddenly assumed he has,despite nothing official confirming it. So no,he can't just go back and stop me from getting this gun.

And overall warping time space always sounds powerful,but whats important is how time&space are warped. I mean manipulation of time always sounds uber powerful,but people have to keep in mind that just because someone has the ability to manipulate time,they can't just do everything with time(for example Zilean can't time travel) Bards manipulation of timespace might be solely defensive/utility based,like he is able to stop time for a short time,but is unable to actually interact with anything that is stopped(like his ultimate) or might be able to manipulate time&space to speed himself up.

Fasmodey2 votes

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It was never said that Bard can travel back in time,thats just one power that fans suddenly assumed he has,despite nothing official confirming it. So no,he can't just go back and stop me from getting this gun.

And overall warping time space always sounds powerful,but whats important is how time&space are warped. I mean manipulation of time always sounds uber powerful,but people have to keep in mind that just because someone has the ability to manipulate time,they can't just do everything with time(for example Zilean can't time travel) Bards manipulation of timespace might be solely defensive/utility based,like he is able to stop time for a short time,but is unable to actually interact with anything that is stopped(like his ultimate) or might be able to manipulate time&space to speed himself up.

Correct. Bard doesn't even have a lore if you think about it. Just a super short bio and riot answers. We don't know his exact powers but people like to assume he can do whatever he wants, while he couldn't sense the magical egg that was in his specific cinematic until it got used by old man. He doesn't know everything, he is not omniscience, he doesn't make everything in the most correct way. He also fucks up, I believe.

In the end, I don't think he would want Aurelion Sol, one of the most important celestial beings of existence without doubt, subdued by childish entities.

It is said a lot times Bard can be imprisoned by powerful spells, and even be killed. Magic is actually the most powerful thing in LoL universe. There is no many thing that it can't do.

MagicFlyingLlama2 votes

AurelionSol ...?

Meep Man2 votes

Aurelion Sol only really has some joke-like lines for the balloon unfortunately. Not hardly lore, just confirms they know each others. Joke and Taunt lines, unless they specifically talk about their past, present, and future connections, aren't usually considered super canon since it's in-game and more of a "What if they met" interaction.

MagicFlyingLlama1 votes

Oh, no, "Like, he is one of if not THE most powerful character in the entire game "

Meep Man2 votes

Oh, him and Aurelion Sol are definitely top nominees. It's just my opinion that Bard's ability to peer into the future to protect the universe and his lack of arrogance make him more powerful than the Star Forger in my eyes.

Valaran Nara1 votes

I think he's more likely to be mentioned in Ionia where his influence and existence has been more noticeably influential. Remember, he has an entire culture wrapped around him. If he's to be mentioned outside of being physically present, Ionia is the place for it to occur.

Kinda like nobody will mention Tahm Kench unless they're from Bilgewater (since he's part of BW's folklore)

Meep Man1 votes

Apparently Yordles know Tahm Kench a decent bit actually.

Never the less, I hope Bard gets some spotlight somehow someday.

GreenLore1 votes

Overall I hope he gets new lore general. I mean he is one of the 4 champs who were released between the shruima and the bilgewater event(the others beingRekSai,Ekko and TahmKench) and those 4 were pretty much only released with a short lore. And while Ekko got a new Bio&Color text by now and Rek'sai got a color text when the universe page started,Bard and Tahm got nothing and are still pretty loreless. Even worse,they are both not tied to a specific city state,so I don't know if they are gonna be involved in any specific lore update(though I guess they might make one about spirits in general)

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