@Riot - About the Current and Future State of Lux

Oleandervine··3 votes·937 views

With the PBE Update yesterday, Riot added in completely new voice files for Lux, expanding on her current ones and making her VO a bit more modernized - however, this leaves a ton of questions that need to be asked.

As we all know, Lux is massively popular. Her kit is strong, it has aged really, really well, and the love she's gotten over the years have her in a healthy, viable place. That leaves us with her model and her looks. She's starting to show her age pretty badly. Her animations aren't as fluid as they should be, she doesn't have all the animations present that modern champion designs and redesigns have, and with Riot's stance last year that they would no longer be doing visual updates alone, this leaves Lux is a very awkward space. With the addition of new voice lines to Lux, this would mean that the only portion of her as a champion that will need to be fixed to bring her to modern standards will be her model. Hence the awkward space. If Riot isn't going to ever do visual updates by themselves, how long will someone as beloved as Lux have to wait to get a full VGU? She's remained viable for this long since her release, and her popularity ensures that she's a top candidate for skins as well as one who's consistently adjusted to stay in a healthy place. This doesn't leave any time in upcoming years where Lux would ever need extensive work, over the course of which her model would look worse, and worse, and worse as technology and design standards continue to improve.

So Riot, this is where I ask you - Will you consider giving Lux a visual update, akin to that which you gave Gangplank? Unlike him, she needs no kit or gameplay work, just an updated model, new rigging, and new animations. Will you consider making her the exception to your policy of never doing VUs without VGUs since she's so popular that any amount of modernization will go over well?

21 Comments

Eternal7913 votes

I wish they would do this with more champions too. I personally think Caitlyn could use both a visual and VO update.

darkdill1 votes

I think Riot plans to give her a VU, though not a full VGU, since her mini-dress is not appropriate for the Piltover setting anymore.

GreenLore1 votes

They once did some brainstorming on her,but as far as we know,she is currently not among the topcandidates for a VU.

Lugg1 votes

Lux is a pretty unhealthy champ right now for sure. Her ult (which is one of the best in the game) has a 33 second CD with max CDR. That's just ridiculous for a champ that already has good waveclear and is very safe against almost any matchup.

Oleandervine1 votes

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Lux is a pretty unhealthy champ right now for sure. Her ult (which is one of the best in the game) has a 33 second CD with max CDR. That's just ridiculous for a champ that already has good waveclear and is very safe against almost any matchup.

Lux is not unhealthy in the slightest. Every spell she has is heavily telegraphed, and while her ult may be on a low CD, it doesn't do anything but straight damage. It's nowhere near as impactful in a team fight like Vel'Koz's ult, nor is it targeted death like Veigar's ult. Landing Lux's abilities takes a bit of skill, because you always have to factor in people dodging them.

Lugg1 votes

Her ult is the only really telegraphed ability, her ult does sick damage, and her abilities don't take much skill at all to land since the hit boxes are pretty big.

darkdill2 votes

Blinks make landing those hits really hard. A good Zed, Fizz or Katarina will make a Lux cry.

GreenLore1 votes

Yeah,but if you don't play any of those champs? If you play an immobile mage and play against lux,then your best way to dodge her W is to guess where she is throwing it and hope you are right,because if you don't start moving the moment you see it coming,then there is no way you can dodge it.

darkdill1 votes

summoner 4 over her Q and then take advantage of her CD's.

Or you can play mindgames with her and get her to fire in a bad direction.

GreenLore1 votes

The problem with that is the fact that your flash has a much longer cooldown than her Q or W.

In general I don't think she is overly problematic,I just think that she could use a few smaller changes though.

Lugg1 votes

Doesn't that fall into the category of fighting cancer with cancer? LOL

Miss Luxanna1 votes

27.5 Seconds with 45% CDR,

Lexyy1 votes

Why do the same champs keep getting the attentoon over and over again?

Lux doesnt need anything, let alone a full VGU. You got that skin recently, be happy with it. Some champs wait years to even get a small skin, you got the "best" skin in the game and now you want MORE for that shit champion? Enough already.

(I know you didnt ask about the skin, but she really doesnt need and upgrade in any kind of way. You're just being picky)

Oleandervine1 votes

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Why do the same champs keep getting the attentoon over and over again?

Lux doesnt need anything, let alone a full VGU. You got that skin recently, be happy with it. Some champs wait years to even get a small skin, you got the "best" skin in the game and now you want MORE for that shit champion? Enough already.

(I know you didnt ask about the skin, but she really doesnt need and upgrade in any kind of way. You're just being picky)

I'm not being picky. Did you even read the post? Because of all this attention, the odds of her getting a real VU are pretty slender now, and eventually she's going to be in the pay-for-VU boat with Udyr.

Lexyy1 votes

The fact that you want a VGU for LUX and actually made a post o boards about it is annonying by itself.

Oleandervine1 votes

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The fact that you want a VGU for LUX and actually made a post o boards about it is annonying by itself.

You need to read. I'm not asking for a VGU. Just a VU. Lux has a kit that's good, she's now getting updated audio, and the only thing left is to update her model. That's a VU, not a VGU.

My point is that with all this attention she's been getting, the odds of her getting visual upgrades across all her skins is slim, and it won't be until years and years later, when she's the equivalent of how Urgot or Nunu is now, that they'll even begin considering visual changes for her. It is not a bad thing to want a champion to be visually updated to go along with the other piece-meal work they've been receiving.

darkdill1 votes

You could always get her Elementalist skin, which is super-modern.

Oleandervine1 votes

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You could always get her Elementalist skin, which is super-modern.

I could, but then I'm paying $30 for a VU, which is what Udyr suffers from.

GreenLore1 votes

In general they only do visual&gameplay updates anymore,because it is just more efficient to update both of them at the same time. And even if Lux doesn't need a gameplay update,that doesn't mean that they can't take a look at her and try to make it better(as seen with tristana,they are fine with making small gameplay updates,when a big one is unnecessary)

However the big problem is that while Lux doesn't look that good ingame,there are just so many champions who need the VGU more than her.Chogath DrMundo Fiddlesticks Irelia Kayle Mordekaiser Nocturne Nunu Pantheon Swain Teemo XinZhao just to name a few.

Oleandervine1 votes

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In general they only do visual&gameplay updates anymore,because it is just more efficient to update both of them at the same time. And even if Lux doesn't need a gameplay update,that doesn't mean that they can't take a look at her and try to make it better(as seen with tristana,they are fine with making small gameplay updates,when a big one is unnecessary)

However the big problem is that while Lux doesn't look that good ingame,there are just so many champions who need the VGU more than her.Chogath DrMundo Fiddlesticks Irelia Kayle Mordekaiser Nocturne Nunu Pantheon Swain Teemo XinZhao just to name a few.

I get that, but my entire point is that the work Lux has gotten that would typically be rolled into a VGU (such as new VO) will push visual work for her that much more into the future, similar to how Shen, Miss Fortune, and Alistar are considered "good for now," but yet still have the same ancient animations and voice files.

GreenLore1 votes

I doubt that ~2 minutes of additional VO will play such a large role for her eventual visual update,when new champions usually have roughly 15 minutes of voice over.

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