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I finally had the enlightment to where Gangplank's ship shoot the rift from:

SaltyToplaneGoat··38 votes·3,252 views

It's not a normal ship.

It's an AIR-ship.

The Bilgewater event has left even hints with Graves and Twisted Fate going off to Piltover and now that the harrowing is over our dear pirate might have taken a little holiday trip from fighing against Miss Fortune to pay the city of progress a little visit. After all I'm sure he wants TF and Graves as much dead as he hates MF...

And then he steals the first zeppelin he could find, loads it up with a shitton of cannons and flew back to Bilgewater with his new supreme ship - after all most of Bilgewaters canons are made to hit targets below or on the same level as them. The airship would be like the ultimate weapon over here.

Also it is canon Piltover and Zaun posess airship technology, you can actually see one in Jinx's music video and one in Corkis splashart. And old lore even had an airship race between Piltover and Zaun...

Finally that mystery is solved.

45 Comments

Sahn Uzal14 votes

Ofcourse not... He just needs to repair his ship after every game. http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120927100259/spongebob/images/b/b0/Dutchman's_ship.jpg summoner 31

Ralanr8 votes

So what you're saying...he's become an air pirate?

SaltyToplaneGoat5 votes

Not necessarely, but it is possible. Sailing through water, sailing through air, barely a difference. Gangplank might be cruel, brutal and stubborn, but he's also extremly smart. The moment he gets word of such an airship he would know just how much this could revolutionize piracy and fighting - suddenly you are not restricted to robbing islands or harbor towns anymore. You could literally raid the entire continent with nothing there to stop you.

Not to mention the technological advantage you would have with attacking from above. Firts of all no one suspects it and then not everyone can defend themselves against this.

Ralanr2 votes

So...from Piltover?

SaltyToplaneGoat5 votes

Either Piltover or Zaun, after all they are the most technologically advanced nations in this world. And they have that tech, I said that before.

Of course they wouldn't just give him the ship, he would have to take it the good old pirate way (which includes death, gunpowder and oranges).

Skelenth1 votes

He stole the ship in Piltover's Abney Park ;D

SaltyToplaneGoat1 votes

[zombie-brand-mindblown]

That is genius. I applaud to you dear sir. WHY DID I NOT THINK OF THAT? I'm even listening to the band right now...

FastAsHeck3 votes

son of... I gave you the idea didn't I?

Well, I didn't bother to make a post about it so I don't mind [slayer-jinx-wink]

SaltyToplaneGoat2 votes

You used that as a joke - I suddenly realized it might be possible ^^

HeresyUntoFedex1 votes

ANYTHING is possible as long as you use your Imagination!

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Embertine2 votes

I've known this for a while now. When special forces Gangplank ults you can see the shadow of a airship with four engines above where the ult is landing.

James Stone1 votes

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I've known this for a while now. When special forces Gangplank ults you can see the shadow of a airship with four engines above where the ult is landing.

I think that's supposed to be a helicopter, and skins are not, unless specifically stated like Pre-Void Kassadin or Captain Miss Fortune, a representative of the lore in any way

DrShoking1 votes

enlightenment I see what you did there

[zombie-brand-clap]

SaltyToplaneGoat1 votes

Well it was an inspiration taken from the Lux thread, so I think my choice of title was fitting :P

DorkunedAuras1 votes

While most of the cannons in Bilgewater are indeed made for on level shooting, there's enough free standing ones lying around that an airship wouldn't be in the air for long.

SaltyToplaneGoat1 votes

That dependes on how far up you are flying. At a certain level you need specialized anti-air weaponary as shooting directly against gravity takes a lot more power than just shooting on a target on the same height as you are. I think that most of Bilgewaters weaponary is not specialized for this kind of combat.

TonsOfGains1 votes

Upvoted, however this is very unlikely due to the fact that he was able to fire on the rift before the bilgewater event. Moreover, an airship would do a pirate no good, as most pirates are in the water, relatively safe from any airship pirate.

SaltyToplaneGoat1 votes

Uhh how is being in the water safe? You just decrease the altitude your are flying, bombard them, come down some more, then jump down, raid all their stuff, climb back up with the loot and fly away.

And there is nothing a traditional ship could do against that as their weaponary is made to shoot targets next to them but not above them. With the element of surprise this wouldn't even be a battle...

TonsOfGains1 votes

The issue here is you made the assumption that the airship would have bombardment weapons, yet typical Bilgewater ships can't have anti-air weapons.

SaltyToplaneGoat1 votes

Well, why should a Bilgewater ship have anti-air weaponary? Would be completly useless unless they were hunting for giant seagulls... Their cannons are made to either fight other ships or sea monsters.

However, it:s really easy to make a air-to-ground weapon: take barrel of powder, attach a fuse, light it and throw it overboard.

One could go even a step further: throw fragile barrels of inflammable oil on the enemy first, THEN drop the explosive stuff.

This ain't exactly rocket science. All you need to know is that gravity is your friend if you fight from above ^^

KlMA1 votes

Of corse bilge water has anti flight weapons, if you couldn't tell most of the cities aren't on very good terms, do you think a city full of gold would leave them self to open to attack, also having an airship assist you wouldent fly with the league, there's a reason viktor doesn't bring an army of robots and why lux can't copy any spell she she's, there's rules, the most probable explanation of his ult is magic, the same magic he uses to create powder kegs on a whim

SaltyToplaneGoat1 votes

Until now Bilgewater never had any need to defend themselves against an aerial attack. The three main threats to the island are a) rouge pirates going against the city leader b) Sea Monsters and c) The Black Mist.

None of these requires the use and development of specific anti-air weaponary. On top of that the aircraft technology might be just starting in Piltover and Zaun, so I doubt that this is wide spread knownledge... Also, Bilgewater has to use almost all their resources against the dangers they are already facing. Also building up defense against a possible air-raid that almost no one can even think of would seem completly unlogical to them.

rtbf2256182411 votes

Except that his ship sunk and he couldn't get an airship alone.

SaltyToplaneGoat2 votes

Pull some people out of the gutter, do some small scale actions to get some Silver Serpents and maybe the one or other Kraken, equipp your men better and sneak into Piltover, preferably with help from the inside that is motivated by a LOT of money.

And here you go, simple as that. Gangplank can build on the help of Illaois tribe (read her lore for how that happened) and the one or other gang might ally with him. He should get enough people for a stealth operation in Piltover like this...

rtbf2256182411 votes

First:Everyone hates Gangplank. Noone likes him, literally.

Second:Why do you think Illaoi would help him? She considers GP a fool and why would her tribe help GP?

There's not enough lore to support that theory.

SaltyToplaneGoat2 votes

She put him on a trial. He survived (much to her surprise). His reward was the support of gangs related to the Bhuru tribes of the islands. Seriously, just read Illaoi's long lore.

Also: in Bilgewater it doesn't matter if you are liked, if you have enough coin - or the promise of a LOT of coin, you are quick to find people willing to murder and pillage for you.

James Stone2 votes

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First:Everyone hates Gangplank. Noone likes him, literally.

Second:Why do you think Illaoi would help him? She considers GP a fool and why would her tribe help GP?

There's not enough lore to support that theory.

They used to fuck. She might still harbor feelings for him, or viceversa, even if not romantic.

And if you think being liked is needed to get things done, you're pretty naive. Everyone likes Silver Serpents, and some men can put that love past trivial things such as personal feuds. Plus, there are still people loyal to Gangplank. And many gangs and men liked the peace GP brought. No one rises to a position like he did and stays there for so long without getting shanked if you aren't REALLY good at killing people (which could serve to get him the airship and gold for a merc crew) or if at least some people were genuinely loyal (which would get him the same result).

rtbf2256182411 votes

Where would GP get money?

Illaoi is fully devoted to Nagakaborous now. I doubt she gives half a shit about GP's feelings let alone money.

I'm pretty sure it would take an idiot to trust GP with anything let alone not fear doing business with him.

The Bilgewater lore tells that most people were just waiting for the right time to grab power in place of GP not keep peace. Only MF and her band saw that it kept peace but the rest were simply lying in wait.

James Stone2 votes

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Where would GP get money?

Illaoi is fully devoted to Nagakaborous now. I doubt she gives half a shit about GP's feelings let alone money.

I'm pretty sure it would take an idiot to trust GP with anything let alone not fear doing business with him.

The Bilgewater lore tells that most people were just waiting for the right time to grab power in place of GP not keep peace. Only MF and her band saw that it kept peace but the rest were simply lying in wait.

Money stashes, violence, theft, and old debts. No one rises as far as GP does without accumulating some, and if the people who owe him don't respect it, he can just kill them and take it.

Illaoi isn't a goddamed drone. She wouldn't follow him in his crusade, but she probably would give him a little pick-me-up for old time's sake.

If it was true everyone was just biding for time there wouldn't be people being shanked on the streets for being loyal to GP. Truth being, it's statistically virtually impossible to reach a position like the Old Plank did and not have at least some loyal folk. And if there isn't, foreign mercenaries would do just fine.

Like, for real, have you see ANY movie where the mob boss gets betrayed and seeks vengeance? Think along those lines. It is extremely foolish to be talking in absolutes to the extremes you're indulging in.

rtbf2256182411 votes

I don't think you know how religion works.

You do realize what happened after GP's fall, right? MF hunted down everyone loyal to him.

Extremes? You're thinking of a fucking air ship in a non-canonical battleground. By lore, nothing has mentioned him even getting a new ship. Summoner's Rift doesn't exist. The battles don't exist. League doesn't exist. His ship does not exist either.

James Stone1 votes

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I don't think you know how religion works.

You do realize what happened after GP's fall, right? MF hunted down everyone loyal to him.

Extremes? You're thinking of a fucking air ship in a non-canonical battleground. By lore, nothing has mentioned him even getting a new ship. Summoner's Rift doesn't exist. The battles don't exist. League doesn't exist. His ship does not exist either.

Again with the absolutes. Everyone. She killed every single one loyal to him and no one escaped, 0% chance.

And that comment about religion is just stupid. I guess a catholic priest that made a vow of celibacy won't even give the time of day to an ex-girlfriend. Won't do a single small thing or help her because the past is 100% meaningless and he's a fucking automaton.

And again, I'm not thinking shit. I'm defending the OP of your absolutism. You said "He couldn't get one alone" and I and the OP replied: "Yes he could" and then you started saying "no it's literally impossible".

Again, I direct you to "criminal gets revenge" storyline. Things more outlandish than this happened in real life and fiction many times over. It's not impossible nor that unlikely.

rtbf2256182411 votes

I'm pretty sure Ilaoi doesn't give a damn about him anymore, she even expressed so in some of her lines.

Besides, after reading the end of the Bilgewater event, i'm sure MF was persistent enough to track down at least 90% of people loyal to GP and for that, GP's own men would start hating him. They are lowly pirates after-all.

You didn't address the issue that the ship on the Rift is non-canon.

SaltyToplaneGoat2 votes

Stop. Just read the long lore on the website. Go to champions -> Illaoi -> Background. And now read.

Also tracking down 90% means that there are still 10% left...

rtbf2256182411 votes

She is the most uninteresting champion in League for me, i couldn't care less about her extended lore.

I already explained how the 10% would feel like.

SaltyToplaneGoat1 votes

So... you want to discuss something about lore but refuse to even read all the canon information?

Well, there's the door, see yourself out. That way you can stop embarassing yourself any further.

Also, the remaining 10% would be quite pissed and more than eager to get back on the one hunting them.

rtbf2256182411 votes

Except that the 10% are all lowly pirates. Noone is "special" among them unless we need a new champion.

I'm just going to read Illaoi's lore later, but not now.

SaltyToplaneGoat2 votes

99,9% of what you are going to find in Bilgewater are lowly pirates.

However, we are talking about ruthless individuals trained at armed and unarmed combat who also know how to operate in a team (sailing with a crew requires a LOT of coordinated teamwork.) and know how to follow orders. Just because they don't appear "main charactery" to you doesn't mean they are all just incompetent background extras.

They don't need to be special. It's enough that the one leading them is one regarded extraordinary.

James Stone1 votes

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Except that the 10% are all lowly pirates. Noone is "special" among them unless we need a new champion.

I'm just going to read Illaoi's lore later, but not now.

That's stupid as all hell, MF's lieutenant was a major character in the Bilgewater lore event, and he's not slated to become a champion.

rtbf2256182411 votes

I never said he would become a champion. I only stated the possibility.

rtbf2256182411 votes

Except that all GP had to control them was Fear, as he said. It's not much to rely on after you've been defeated.

James Stone1 votes

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I'm pretty sure Ilaoi doesn't give a damn about him anymore, she even expressed so in some of her lines.

Besides, after reading the end of the Bilgewater event, i'm sure MF was persistent enough to track down at least 90% of people loyal to GP and for that, GP's own men would start hating him. They are lowly pirates after-all.

You didn't address the issue that the ship on the Rift is non-canon.

First, you're wrong, and the commenter that responded to you already said why. If you don't know about something, shut up about it.

For the second, again with the assumptions, extremes and absolutes. Yes, the 10% that survived could start hating him, or they could attempt to rejoin him out of spite for MF, actual loyalty for the man if the "right" ones survived, or a need for revenge. To talk with such certainty of the complexity of the human psyche and behavior is both stupid and insulting.

And for the third, the entire fucking Rift isn't canon. Plus, it is a "what-if" question and scenario. And to end, learn what fucking words mean. It is not "non-canon" because it doesn't contradict existing canon BECAUSE NO ONE GODDAMNED KNOWS FROM WHERE THE CANNON BALLS COME FROM. THERE IS NO CANON FOR IT TO CONTRADICT.

rtbf2256182411 votes

The commenter mentioned nothing about GP or Illaoi so shut up yourself.

Umm..Bilgewater is filled with men who don't think for themselves really. You're just stating an impropable possiblity.

So...where is the basis of your argument? What air ship are you talking about if his original ship is gone in lore and SR doesn't exist?

Weathered1 votes

Guess I'll repost my comment from the comment I assume you got this from.

I guess we know where Elise repels to now.

morris11 votes

I thought it was a ghost ship that could fly in the air, no reason why.

LordGeovanni1 votes

you think GP is a joker he has his crew watch the broadcast and fire from bilgewater

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