Project Ashe doesn't thematically make sense

The Deckowner·Jul 13, 2016·5 votes·1,920 views

Yes it is a good skin I love it too but take a look at my point before you downvote.

why would you use a bow to shoot laser beams?
even if we ignore rhe first issue, why would you make a human shape semi robot to do the mechanical movement of pulling the string? I am pretty sure human kinetic doesn't really do the best job of pulling a string.
Since you are shooting laser beams what is the point of pulling the string? You don't need the physical reactional force of a string to shoot laser beams.
Since you sre just shooting laser beams why not just make a robot(battlecast velkoz and xerath)? They can probably shoot stronger and more acxurate laser beams since they aren't liited by the human shape.

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MavenSongJul 13, 20166 votes

The point of most legendary skins, heck most skins, is to create an alternate theme. It is supposed to mix up the theme of the original so it feels new and fresh. Marauder wouldnt fit ashe's theme because she fights for peace.

GodhriJul 13, 20161 votes

yea we haven't heard that from every dictator/conqueror in history.

MavenSongJul 13, 20163 votes

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yea we haven't heard that from every dictator/conqueror in history.

... what?

GodhriJul 13, 20161 votes

It's everywhere buddy. People use flowery ideology to garner support from others. Peace is just one of the many. It doesn't mean that their own men or they themselves do not "maraud".

disregardableJul 13, 20162 votes

It's a special type of laser beam that needs that exact design. That special type of laser beam is necessary for the exact circumstance Ashe was designed for.

JayHog1992Jul 13, 20162 votes

At this point, I thought that the Project theme only applied to champions that carried blades...

Then Lucian, Ashe and Ekko happened.

It's safe to say that's no longer the case.

SukishooJul 13, 20161 votes

No, it was mostly about champs with Mobility/Dashes.. but then Ashe came along XD

TTK DreadnoughtJul 13, 20161 votes

Ekko has a blade

SukishooJul 13, 20161 votes

Ekko's is actually clock-hand, not necessarily a blade.

RalanrJul 13, 20161 votes

The project skin looks like a blade imo.

SukishooJul 13, 20161 votes

Well kinda, but is overall still his weird clock-hand !!! clock-hand blade? XD

FloRaider42Jul 14, 20161 votes

I always assumed Project champions would be human fighters relying on weapons and so far it's looking good. Though Zed may not fit entirely, as he is more about using shadows/holograms.

Valaran NaraJul 14, 20161 votes

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I always assumed Project champions would be human fighters relying on weapons and so far it's looking good. Though Zed may not fit entirely, as he is more about using shadows/holograms.

At least the idea of teleportation and clones leave themselves open to "techie" spin-offs.

GreenLoreJul 13, 20162 votes

She isn't a robot,just a cyborg(even if she is like 99% machine) and I think the project series is about using the combat experience of good fighters,which wouldn't work with a non-humanoid body(heck even the whole "pulling back the string can be explained that way,since thats how ashe learned to fire the bow,she would be worse if she had just to press a switch)

The Last BalladJul 13, 20162 votes

If they are taking people of great combat ability, making them cyborgs, and reprogramming them to fight for them(granted they broke free and are now trying to destroy them, but that is besides the point) which would make more sense? Programming an entirely new fighting style for them, which could bug out, or just designing a weapon that fits their area of expertise(for ashe it is a bow). Why give the other ones blades when a laser rifle would be more efficient?

Also, if you look at the project video from last year, it shows that the programming has them see the world as if it was back when they weren't cyborgs, with the enemies portrayed as an enemy they would of faced, and don't you think that Ashe suddenly holding a gun be a tip off that something is wrong?

FloRaider42Jul 13, 20162 votes

why would you use a bow to shoot laser beams?

Strange that that comment never comes up with Varus, but I think it's safe to assume they work the same way. According to the PBE flavor text she is using an EM Caster -> Her bow creates an arrow made of plasma/laser/hextech and she pulls it back against an Electromagnetic Field which propels the projectile upon release (kinda like a small railgun)

even if we ignore rhe first issue, why would you make a human shape semi robot to do the mechanical movement of pulling the string? I am pretty sure human kinetic doesn't really do the best job of pulling a string.

You do realize she is a cybory, not a robot? ^^ because her "bow" works with electromagnetism, which means you need to pull back the projectile. Yeah she could use a crossbow, but since they either used Ashe's body/memories to create this cyborg they sticked with her favourite weapon.

Since you are shooting laser beams what is the point of pulling the string? You don't need the physical reactional force of a string to shoot laser beams.

^^ 2.

Since you sre just shooting laser beams why not just make a robot(battlecast velkoz and xerath)? They can probably shoot stronger and more acxurate laser beams since they aren't liited by the human shape.

They want to use the combat experience / talents of the memories of Ashe, which is why they made a cyborg not a robot. Small skilled humanoid soldiers are sometimes better than giant mechs or "stupid" robots. That's just your assumption (BTW Battlecast is never implied to be the same AU as PROJECT)

GahakuJul 14, 20162 votes

It is actually " confirmed " in a way,considering how you can see Battlecast Vel'Koz in PROJECT:Katarina's splash art. I remember reading somewhere that the battlecast fight for machines, while the PROJECT line fights for humanity.

EDIT: I Forgot saying that my theory is that Viktor created the battlecast which proved disastrious ( As the void creatures were already strong, combining them with technology made them incredibly powerful ). In a counter attack ,humanity developed the PROJECT skin line in order to fight the battlecast and save the world from Viktor conquering it, and I think this is further supported by 2 facts.

First fact : The splashes for Project Yi, Fiora and Ekko all show them fighting ROBOTS, not humans.We can also see that these robots are not the Piltover defending robots, and that they have 1 eye which is the same colour as the battlecast skins. Also, we can see the city being in ruins, while the battlecast skins show them destroying the city. So, we've got the robots destroying the city, while the cyborgs are destroying the robots.

Second fact :We can see that in Project Katarina's splash, Vel Koz is behind her, out of sight ,looking in her direction. We know that his role is gathering information and spying for the Battlecast, so why would he be collecting information on Katarina and spying, if not because he's spying on THE ENEMY ? ( PROJECT : Katarina) .

FloRaider42Jul 14, 20161 votes

I somewhat am still doubtfull of Battlecast Vel (He is just floating around without destroying anything and PROJECT Yi is fighting Robots instead of Battlecast), but it makes some sense and it does really look like him.

Creator Viktor skin is confirmed to have created the Battlecast series, but concerning Battlecast: Steel Legion (Lux, Garen) and Full Metall (Jayce, Rammus) were speculated to be Battlecasts opponents and PROJECT is speculated to be in the same AU as PROJECT, which honestly makes this look like kinda overcomplicated.

Yes robots: as in something the PROJECT skinline is seen fighting against (PROJECT Yi splash), as compared to Battlecast, which consists of cyborg Void monster (They are stated to still have parts of organic material). PROJECT also has a more neon look like PROGRAM, whereas Battlecast doesn't look as similiar.

GahakuJul 15, 20161 votes

No, no , no. You got this COMPLETLY wrong. Battlecast=cyborg? Project=robots? No, that's the opposite. I even remember reading one of Viktor's diary entries " I got used to removing the skin of void creatures and replacing it " . Viktor literarly transforms them into Robots, whilist the PROJECT skins are just humans who are cybernetically enchanced, as we can see when Yasuo removes his mask, and other places, too. And yes, Robots=Viktor's army. We know that Piltover has police robots ,but these are not those kind of robots, and they have the same glow as the Battlecast skins, which is another point towards them being made by Viktor. And as I said, Vel'Koz is not destroying anything because his role is to spy, not to destroy .He's the infiltrator, the spy.

TTK DreadnoughtJul 13, 20161 votes

Because Teemo.

The DeckownerJul 13, 20161 votes

because galio

RookPusherJul 13, 20161 votes

Amen. Would have preferred project Jhin.

RalanrJul 13, 20161 votes

It's science fiction. Sometimes it doesn't have to make sense. If lasers are so easy, then why make melee weapons for them?

And for every convoluted answer to that, I'm sure there is one for Ashe's laser bow.

MF is my WaifuJul 14, 20161 votes

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why would you use a bow to shoot laser beams?

Why would buying a giant sword make Miss Fortune's bullets do more damage? I don't know.

The DeckownerJul 14, 20161 votes

what is logic in league? idk