Let's be honest for a sec: Fiora's splash is a matter of taste, it's the model that looks 15 y.o.
Seriously, the splash face is DIFFERENT, the model is just bad. A bad piece of work. Heavily unprofessional.
Seriously, the splash face is DIFFERENT, the model is just bad. A bad piece of work. Heavily unprofessional.
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Seriously, the splash face is DIFFERENT
That's enough reason for me to call it bad, to be honest.
They did get edited yesterday
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-q23LC7mpNnY/VbGDNfyT6mI/AAAAAAAAFUc/UeZr_GGlyMA/s1600/fiora0compare.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-C3Fbk-bE78M/VbGDN4w-_CI/AAAAAAAAFUY/w3uocPeNVCQ/s1600/fiora1compare.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-pkISnxDFbSc/VbGDOQ9F__I/AAAAAAAAFT4/UX2gs37inOA/s1600/fiora2compare.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-FYLx0lS-Qok/VbGDPJPuBkI/AAAAAAAAFUI/jpNcRBYWfZQ/s1600/fiora3compare.jpg
And they may still get more.
Can someone point out the difference in the original model? I can't see it.
They took some shadow off her face and lightened her complexion. Her cheekbones are less visible and her face overall looks less "pointed."
They did get edited yesterday
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-q23LC7mpNnY/VbGDNfyT6mI/AAAAAAAAFUc/UeZr_GGlyMA/s1600/fiora0compare.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-C3Fbk-bE78M/VbGDN4w-_CI/AAAAAAAAFUY/w3uocPeNVCQ/s1600/fiora1compare.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-pkISnxDFbSc/VbGDOQ9F__I/AAAAAAAAFT4/UX2gs37inOA/s1600/fiora2compare.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-FYLx0lS-Qok/VbGDPJPuBkI/AAAAAAAAFUI/jpNcRBYWfZQ/s1600/fiora3compare.jpg
And they may still get more.
That is better, but still not that great.
They did get edited yesterday
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-q23LC7mpNnY/VbGDNfyT6mI/AAAAAAAAFUc/UeZr_GGlyMA/s1600/fiora0compare.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-C3Fbk-bE78M/VbGDN4w-_CI/AAAAAAAAFUY/w3uocPeNVCQ/s1600/fiora1compare.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-pkISnxDFbSc/VbGDOQ9F__I/AAAAAAAAFT4/UX2gs37inOA/s1600/fiora2compare.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-FYLx0lS-Qok/VbGDPJPuBkI/AAAAAAAAFUI/jpNcRBYWfZQ/s1600/fiora3compare.jpg
And they may still get more.
At least the faces aren't as god-awful now.
From a fellow artist, the model is not aesthetically pleasing compared to before and that further leads to Riot's missing the mark on her identity. The model itself is not technically "bad" (I'm sure it's opimized well, rigged well, has good topology) and it is a decent enough piece of work on its own. HOWEVER, it is not our Fiora. It does not look enough like Fiora's aesthetic that we recognize her for. As a result, the 3D in-game model does not translate well for us.
Ok then I challenge you to make a better splash art and/or model. If you can't do that then don't talk about how "unprofessional" it is.
Do I look like I have studied for it and have been hired and payed to do it
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Do I look like I have studied for it and have been hired and payed to do it
No, and if you were, you would probably do a worse job of it.
If he was right now, yes. But if he had the same education and experience as the creators of that thing? Then we do not know.
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Do I look like I have studied for it and have been hired and payed to do it
Obviously you haven't if you want to criticize something as unprofessional when you don't even have a degree or work experience in that field.
That is not how critique works love.
Do i have to be a car mechanic to know that my car is bad because it has no brakes?
Do i have to be a profesional chef to complain about being given rotten food in a restaurant?
No i do not. Everyone has different works they are good at, this doesnt mean they do not know what other products are good or not.
What you just said there shows how little you know about the world or how it even works.
yes hello I love you that is all
Granted, you're comparing objective critique where there is definitely an issue to subjective critique where the discussion is largely opinion. We also don't know how long this is going to be in the works, what other changes may be in store for the grand duelist or how she will fit in with the bigger picture.
Check in the forums, it is somewhere near the top in the most popular section of boards home. Some guy from china with 0 experience created a better splash than riot which were paid to do it.
This edit needs to be made. There was no need to cover Fiora up. Only with the new hat, that ruined the skin completely.
So the only quality we can expect of this game is anything better than we can make? This would be a shit game in every way.
as a company who SELLS these to us, and expects us to stay and play and purchase to keep them afloat - we have every right to voice opinions. Mr. White Knight.
Ok then I challenge you to make a better splash art and/or model. If you can't do that then don't talk about how "unprofessional" it is.
There are modders who can make a better model then the new Fiora from the ground up, that's what makes it so bad. If someone can do your job with relatively little training and better, then you shouldn't be paid to do that job.
Do you have to be a five-star chef to say that a meal isn't done well? No, you don't have to even know how to cook to know it wasn't done right. Do you have to be Picasso to say something is/isn't art? No, you don't have to be an artist at all. Do you have to be a director to say that a movie was bad? No.
Don't pull the stupid "Okay then I'd like to see YOU do it" defense, it's shallow and doesn't hold up.
I couldn't agree more. I love the new splash way more than the old, but it's definitely just a personal preference thing. I don't know how anyone could defend that in game face.
Even if I agreed with your statement (I don't), it's still perfectly valid to complain about an appeal to a taste if it isn't yours.
Honestly, it's all a matter of opinion. The splash art, the model, the kit.
The important part is that there's an overwhelming hatred/dislike for the new rework. Almost every comment I've seen has expressed a negative opinion about it.
Haven't check for artist, but I am quite sure its the same person drawing the Valentine Ashe? Like a super larger forehead, up pointing nose, overall flatten face, lips too thick and a chin a bit big and outward.
Nothing wrong with 15 y.o.s ayy
Most people will say that the old splash was better :)
When updating a champion that didn't really need it, different is bad, especially in regards to the face and iconic things.
Weird, I coulda sworn I just saw a THOUSAND COMMENTS yelling about the neo-nazi feminist art team who are butchering female champs left and right... oh wait, that was just a bunch of whiny bullshit from guys that want to keep their hands halfway down their pants while playing [any female champion here].
Haven't seen them mention Miss Fortune in their arguments though. How strange, she just got updated as well. I can only imagine how masculine and unsexy they made her look.http://news.cdn.leagueoflegends.com/public/images/pages/2015/mfu/video/MF-model.webm
MF's update was fine. At least we weren't presented with a completely new champion and told it was an old champion that didn't need an update when it came to MF.