I'm still pretty appalled that Riot never made a connection to Diana in Nami's Lore.

ABlueQuaker··15 votes·1,127 views

Nami is a Tidecaller who requires a Moonstone. Diana is the only Lunari in existence in present Runeterra.

Why do they not even have any connection on the Friends & Rivals sections of their bios?

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turkeyBACON5 votes

When Nami was first revealed, this was my assumed lore connection but with the intro of Bard i'm not so sure anymore. Bard can just as easily fit the role of providing a powerful artifact of a moonstone and taking away at equally powerful/mysterious abyssal pearl as his "lore" suggests is his function.

I think I prefer the Lunari version though as that is more grounded and the implications are greater. I'd be far more interested in what would the Lunari do with the pearl than what bard would do. Does messing with dark energies of the pearl lead to their downfall? Are the Lunari actually evil or have darker intent than simply being misunderstood as Diana believes? All much more interesting than a cosmic entity simply fulfilling its cosmic duties.

Of course Bard could be just as interesting but we know fuck all about him and Diana was here first so fuck that guy until riot gives me a reason to care.

Motajo1 votes

{quoted}so fuck that guy until riot gives me a reason to care.

Well said

CrazedPorcupine5 votes

Well, in League Factions Our lore actually has Nami and Diana having worked together to create a new Moonstone and save Nami's People. Our lore may not be "Canon" but at least we work to develop our stories.

Impetual4 votes

Seems like they could each have a connection to the moonstone.

Would be a pretty interesting way to tie those champions together, either as allies or rivals.

Might happen once Riot starts developing lore for older champions again.

ABlueQuaker1 votes

It seems like they'll either have to redo one or both of their lores or introduce a new Lunari character.

Trylobyte4 votes

They don't have any connection because they've never canonically met and aren't really in any position to do so. Diana's a recently-converted Lunari who's spending most of her time trying not to get smited by the Solari and Nami only recently came ashore. The odds of these two people running into each other in such a short time period (especially considering Mt. Targon isn't anywhere near an ocean, if I recall) are very small and even then they may not recognize each other as being significant or meaningful to their goals.

Rinky Dinky2 votes

They were both released while they Institute of War still existed

It is impossible they have not met.

Narasimha4 votes

No, they weren't. No champion released after Darius existed in the same canon as the IoW.

Tesla Effect4 votes

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No, they weren't. No champion released after Darius existed in the same canon as the IoW.

Finally, someone noticed that. The retcon started with the release of Darius (oddly enough, he is the first champion to get a recall animation). It was a considerable shift that had to happen sooner before they needed to redo a lot more champion lore than usual (imagine all the lore being retconed before Azir instead of Darius).

Sharjo2 votes

It felt to me, after Darius, that Riot started to really solidify on artstyle, themes and the like. A lot of 2012 champs kinda set the bar for what would come after them, like Darius, Hecarim (even though he was before Darius), Kha'Zix and Jayce. From them we got Kat's new look, the new TT, Elise and Thresh, Vel'Koz (much later) and Vi.

GreenLore4 votes

Actually I'd say that most champs (starting with darius) were more or less part in boths canons.

I mean keep in mind that darius made an appearance in the JoJ,so he was definetly part of the old Canon. However they most likely already toyed around with the idea of removing the IoW already back then and even gave an explanation how Lissandra could participate in the league without revealing her identity,so I think they simply went for the safe route and made it so that they would fit into both canons.

Tesla Effect1 votes

You are right in that part actually.

Sharjo2 votes

Exactly this. Those champions never mentioned the IoW at all, and actually thrive as much as they did back when the IoW was canon as they do now.

Trylobyte2 votes

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They were both released while they Institute of War still existed

It is impossible they have not met.

Note that I said 'canonically.' Since the Institute of War is no longer canon, they couldn't have met there since it doesn't exist. And the IoW arguably wasn't canon since the last JoJ issue, since that's when they stopped doing anything with it or linking any champion to it, which means it likely hasn't been considered canon internally since mid-2012.

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Well, in League Factions Our lore actually has Nami and Diana having worked together to create a new Moonstone and save Nami's People. Our lore may not be "Canon" but at least we work to develop our stories.

Fanon is a wonderful thing, isn't it? Lets you move a lot faster and take things in directions of your choice without worrying too much about the corporate angle of things. I like what you guys are doing! And as Riot has shown in the past, popular enough fanon can sneak into canon...

Tesla Effect1 votes

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And as Riot has shown in the past, popular enough fanon can sneak into canon...

Like the relations of Zed & Syndra , Amumu & Annie and lets not forget these two: MonkeyKing & Ahri that everyone is spamming on these threads (honestly, I like this ship, but why the spam?)

Xulsigae1 votes

It's one person spamming it.

The Soulforged2 votes

I was thinking of this as a possible connection, but it is highly up to interpretation as we have hardly any information on the Lunari.

GreenLore2 votes

Well there is also no connection between Azir and Leona despite Shurima being in the posession of the Sun disc.

Tesla Effect2 votes

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Well there is also no connection between Azir and Leona despite Shurima being in the posession of the Sun disc.

Well no connection, for now. Mount Targon still needs a lore rework and exploration.

Cindikle1 votes

I think they were originally leaving it open.

Maybe adding a new champion down the line that steals it for it's power. Adding both all 3 champions story. We'll never know now.

Tesla Effect1 votes

They will eventually come back to Diana once a Mount Targon lore event pops up. Its only a matter of time, since we know very little about the factions there (probably even less than the rest of the major factions except Zaun).

Chromatic Eagle1 votes

Just because she's moon themed, doesn't mean she has knowledge or access to a moonstone. Do we even entirely know what that stone is supposed to do?

ABlueQuaker3 votes

Every 100 years the Tidecaller of the Marai people presents a landwalker (probably a Lunari) with a Pearl in exchange for a Moonstone which ensures their survival for another 100 years.

It would appear that right after the previous exchange, the Lunari were wiped out and now (100 years on) Nami cannot make the exchange... which brings Diana (the 1st Lunari in 100 years) into the fold.

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