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Feral Warwick isn't Feral anymore?

Gunpoint··146 votes·15,684 views

The whole concept of the skin changed and I'm pretty disappointed by it. It's not a bad skin, but now even the classic skin is closer to the aesthetic of old feral Warwick than the newer one. The same theme could at least be kept across reworks if you are not going to allow skin refunds as a result of situations like this. This is not even close to what I bought... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31wokpdqLfI

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rtbf7397912960 votes

I agree with Riot dropping the ball on this one, some of my favorite features of the Old Feral Warwick were those broken chains hanging from his hands (NOT NICKELBACK STRAPS), and that sick bloody scar on his back (which is now gone). I don't understand why Riot would do this to a great skin. Also, His claws are so small compared to the other skins, that green fridge on his arm takes up almost all the space.

Riot, please take a look at the youtube video and look in the youtube comments, many people are saying they dislike this.

PS. Feral - existing in a natural state, as animals or plants; not domesticated or cultivated; wild.

Rude Name5 votes

PS. Feral - existing in a natural state, as animals or plants; not domesticated or cultivated; wild.

wild

Krizion12 votes

Yes we want broken chains and more wild general aspect please Riot [slayer-pantheon-thumbs] but this skin can be keep with another name maybe...

remo11 votes

If i could i would refund the skin now, so sad.

Silven11 votes

The worst part is, I don't honestly see Riot making a change on this. The splash art would need a whole do-over, not just tweaks and the model would probably have to be built again from the ground up, which I doubt they'd manage within one patch (or make effort to do)

I seriously hope they prove me wrong, though.

EDIT: Legit called it, Riot Reav3 just confirmed they're only gonna mildly tweak the splash art to better fit the in-game model and that's it. Guess Feral Warwick won't be Feral anymore. ( Link: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/story-art/ZGU806gf-warwick-skin-feedback )

Mostro Gallo43 votes

Really the same theme could at least be kept across reworks if you are not going to allow skin refunds as a result of situations like this. This is not what I bought...

100% a valid issue/concern that Riot does not seem to comprehend. It's disappointing and unprofessional.

Aimbot Nidalee32 votes

I agree, make Feral Warwick feral again

BepsiWellington21 votes

I understand that this is supposed to be Prisoner Warwick after he escapes singed, but why does it have to take over a Legacy Feral Warwick skin instead of being an entirely different skin? I want the chains and the big body back.

Shia Lebuf18 votes

I paid money for this because this skin was the closest to a werewolf. Now it's really just a recolor. I feel like I have been scammed which means, I doubt I'll be buying any futures skins again. You burned me once Riot. Not again.

MAKAVELIncarnate5 votes

I agree. I loved the Werewolf look. Now we don't have one :(

Hell Week17 votes

what a huge bummer.... i loved this skin now it looks like sht really. i seriously thought this was a chroma skin. theyre so smart they made the 520 skins look waaaaaaaaay better so people would buy them. just look at tundra WW.... thats insane for a 520 skin everything about that skin was changed including some epic blue particles and his eyes when he runs wow...... looks NOTHING like the tundra skin now. feral is 975 and nothing changed at all other than the thing on his mouth that u can barely see.

good thing i own most of his skins except for those 520 ones and urf WW. ah rito you guys and your selfish arrogant ways $$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

BigT6 votes

This was my favorite but I bought tundra on sale for 260 once I heard Warwick was getting updated. I remembered what they did to Shen's frozen skin and it was a 520 and also looks sweet. Also Yoricks grave digger 520 skins is cool now. Sadly they botched this skins theme

Silven14 votes

I loved Feral Warwick on the old model. It was the only one that really looked truly beastly whereas the others, with armor or somesuch, retained a measure of humanity.

I'm really not a fan of the ripped up 'asylum outfit', or what they call it. Though I have to say the cage on his face is kinda cool. Then again, in my head, the Feral Warwick kinda fulfilled the fantasy of this being Warwick's natural state. Like he could really be this terrifying without much of the enhancements. And somehow the brown fur just looks really... Docile? Like a house dog, for real.

And they could at least make the spell effects green (Like on his fear explosion, like Tundra Warwick's is blue white and Firefang's is orange red). I mean, Feral Warwick is a Legacy 975RP skin. If they don't change it to be more badass and satisfying, I might just want to buy the Tundra Warwick instead which has kickass blue effects on just about everything even though it only costs 520RP.

I really hope Riot dials back on that one. Feral Warwick could be so much more.

Skelenth13 votes

I actually expected Feral Warwick out of all the remade skins to look like a "natural" wolf instead of that Asylum Breakout it is right now.

SIud12 votes

It's like riot couldn't decide between 2 different models for the new default Warwick skin so some one suggested they just color 1 brown and slap the feral tag on it. Both are the exact same thing when it comes to a man being experiment on and then breaking out. This is not what "feral" means. common rito.

ALSO whats the deal with not giving any VU skins any recall animations? like whats the deal with that?

charlesseo12 votes

rito please redo this skin. Its disgusting

Mortum11 votes

Yep I am also dissapointed at this one, it was my favourite now it isn't anymore, Grey became my favourite because that is the closest one to a real werewolf now. With that said I would like to leave a suggestion if it is worth anything.

Considering that with the rework Warwick's right arm must always be different and he must have something on his back because of the W, my suggestion is the following: Warwick is all brown without clothes only some rags around his waist like before, his right arm is slightly bulkier and has chains around it (similar to the old version but only in the right arm), and in his back he can have a scar like before, but now the scar is much bigger and glows with the W active. There ya go, the skin keeps what riot wants, stuff on his back and right arm because of the abilities while still keeping the traditional werewolf style we all want and like.

Edit: spelling

Ravenous Howls11 votes

I always saw this skin as his primal roots skin. That maddening beast that, when first trasformed was at his most savage and chaotic nature. This new skin resonates none of that feeling and makes me feel he escaped from an insane asylum as opposed to giving in to his primal instincts.

Riot could simply reclassify this as a hextech or asylum skin then make an actual feral skin for those of us who actually dropped some coin for the original skin's concept. At least all the other skins, I feel, kept the soul of the originals. none of the other skins feel so completely alien as this one does. It's a complete 180 away from it and looks completely wrong.

Rengarito10 votes

Completely agree. I loved this skin when I first bought it a few years ago, even if some people labelled it as a recolor. Feral Warwick in essence was a bulkier and wilder werewolf theme and I couldn't get enough of that, whereas this seems completely unrelated to its name. (A psychward, really?) The default skin is more similar to what Feral could be than this...

As a suggestion, I clearly remember Feral Warwick having arrows on him - the thing on his back could just be one of those arrows, simply stylized similar to Grey Warwick's sword. I'd also like to point out that this is marked as 975 RP but Tundra Hunter's effects change more. Rito pls.

This redesign alienated most of the people who liked and own this skin. If Riot would keep it like this, can I please have my RP back? Thank you.

SupaDupaDog10 votes

Yes I too am dissapointed I no longer have a Warwick skin where he was basically naked and I could look at his butt while red buff spawned.

Or was that just me?

Kokoro Wish4 votes

No, my friend. No it was not.

Also yes this is not the huge wolfman looking angry and stuck full of arrows I paid for. The chains were also good.

Also he was naked.

So I could see his butt.

Ariel the Cruel10 votes

Don't play Warwick. Don't buy skins. So I'm worth nothing on this topic.

All the same, I throw my ballet in with the general sentiment. "Feral" looks more like "Prison Break." Skin really misses the mark. (>_>)

WoIf10 votes

I like the new Bio-Hazard Warwick skin... Oh wait..

Not to mention the FireFang looks like a fox in the Maraurder armour.. Where the old one was actually a fire wolf. Bad ass.

I love his new abilities and not all skins are bad, the character model has improved but I am really sensing that no heart went into this and was more rushed.

The wolf has spoken. Warwick

Edit: Not sure if you're allowed to post links but there is not many differences in these imo.. Classic vs Feral.

http://i1318.photobucket.com/albums/t648/KingVincentTheWolf/ww%20feral_zpsyyo8vnlz.png

http://i1318.photobucket.com/albums/t648/KingVincentTheWolf/ww%20deafult_zpszinbj9hb.png

Hell Week9 votes

i say they remove all this junk technology from his back and claws. add some arrows and his blood mark on his back instead like if something were hunting him down. on his claws he could have something like wolverine before his his metal claws. BONE CLAWS give him that wild wolf feeling.... keep those awesome chains like if someone was trying to restrain his inner beast. on his mouth he could have some kind of broken mouth restrain, why because its feral ww he will bite your head off. for his particle effects.. simple.... BLOOD alot of it. man imagine how cool it would feel having feral ww running on 4 legs hunting down someone with your ult. people would buy that skin just for that purpose.

screw the lore straight up lol. why because i did not buy that skin to follow some lore i dont even know about, i bought that skin because it made me feel like a fuckin wild werewolf that just transformed.

rtbf758733928 votes

Tfw Riot won't read/consider any of this. :'c

Hipster Monkey8 votes

I agree old feral ww was my favorite skin .. It had the looks of a wild and out of control animal ofc terrorizing outside on the nature not captivated on some lab .. I don't like the new one .. It's a shame since I have this skin and I bought it because I loved his old aesthetics .. In my opinion not a good skin anymore really..

PROJECT Katarìna8 votes

I dont even own feral warwick and I find this change to a style of his skin saddening

ZukaWolf7 votes

I agree with this 1000% please keep feral warwick feral....I was quite proud that I got this skin before it went legacy, now its one of the worst skins he has. At least in my opinion.

Oakleaf Ranger7 votes

Not a fan of the skin, he needs to look wilder and crazier. At least give him his yellow eyes back.

Smitty Manjensen7 votes

When I saw the pictures of the skins without the names, I thought this is some new hextech skin lol.

buckeyebob457 votes

Let's not forget that feral ww had one of the best splash arts in the game. I'm gonna miss it :(

V The Support V7 votes

Let's not forget that base Warwick had one of the worst splash arts in the game. Good Riddance.

Ebonmaw Dragon5 votes

Actually, there is lore behind that skin... in fact that lore is really similar to the new lore of Warwick. The lore of that skin is that someone from Zaun used Warwick as an experiment... so, that explain why Feral Warwick looks like that in the VU

Hell Week17 votes

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Actually, there is lore behind that skin... in fact that lore is really similar to the new lore of Warwick. The lore of that skin is that someone from Zaun used Warwick as an experiment... so, that explain why Feral Warwick looks like that in the VU

doesnt make any sense,why does a 520rp tundra skin look way better than my 10$ feral skin....that is LEGACY.

rtbf7397912924 votes

Feral - existing in a natural state, as animals or plants; not domesticated or cultivated; wild.

Being experimented on is along the lines of being domesticated/cultivated. If you're saying this skin is a result of the lore, it should've been an exclusion to the lore. Many of us did not pay for this new Bio-Warwick skin. It's just not the style we wanted.

Elisheva14 votes

Simply being the color of a coyote instead of a wolf doesn't make something feral. Issue is, it's simply not a feral skin, it's a bionic coyote skin with the name Feral stapled to it.

TequilaZombie5 votes

What turns me off the most is the clothes. Before they were just there so we didn't had to see a dangling wolf dick, but now they cover almost half his body. While I could have bought the bionic coyote one, I doubt I'm going to ever buy this new skin.

Towboat4213 votes

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Actually, there is lore behind that skin... in fact that lore is really similar to the new lore of Warwick. The lore of that skin is that someone from Zaun used Warwick as an experiment... so, that explain why Feral Warwick looks like that in the VU

Why did this get down voted to oblivion, that is clearly the aesthetic they are now going for with the skin, the asylum attire and missing hand/forearm are an obvious indication of that. I can understand the upset over the change in theme but I mean it's at least it was made into a skin to begin with, I was more upset when I remembered that riot doesn't do traditional skins anymore for some reason. Which to be a frank is a waste of the old splash art and design.

Ebonmaw Dragon5 votes

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Why did this get down voted to oblivion, that is clearly the aesthetic they are now going for with the skin, the asylum attire and missing hand/forearm are an obvious indication of that. I can understand the upset over the change in theme but I mean it's at least it was made into a skin to begin with, I was more upset when I remembered that riot doesn't do traditional skins anymore for some reason. Which to be a frank is a waste of the old splash art and design.

Because the ones that are complaining do not care about the story and had no idea that the skin was canon in the lore.

Towboat4215 votes

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Because the ones that are complaining do not care about the story and had no idea that the skin was canon in the lore.

After sifting further through these comments I have come to conclusion that a lot of these are delusional/nostalgia blind. The skin that feral ww was never anything special to begin with this design clearly has work but into it and adheres to the overall theme the champion now has, people just like to complain I suppose.

For Reference: https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-djTbyMK5Glg/WHV0TGVWYhI/AAAAAAAAbto/VggUQHZV-VczkabdjfJIVcin7rZSpp_pACEw/s1600/ww5compare.jpg

These are the two skins we are talking about, and the only critisims I see on these pages are "this skin sucks" nothing constructive in the least bit. This is why the boards are never taken seriously because your never happy even when something gets a clear improvement people get their panties in a twist.

My only critique for the skin is that his fur could be darker in order to make him feel a bit more monstrous because currently it's a tad too bright, sorta like how kindred on release was some weird shade of tan rather than white. How about when we make posts like this we provide riots teams with actual contrastive critism so they will actually want to respond.

Mortum10 votes

if you actually looked throught the comments you would see that a lot of people, including myself don't just say "this skins sucks" without constructive critique. There are several comments out here that point out what is wrong with the skin, it just makes it seem like you didn't read anything at all as you claim. And since you didn't I'll just copy paste one of my own into here...

"Exactly, the people who don't agree with us say that the skin has more quality, or has more features, etc so it is better. That's not the point, yes the skin BY ITSELF is good. BUT it is not FERAL, it is not the skin we bought and it definitly didn't retain the identity that it had before. He was supposed to be a traditional savage werewolf in this skin, not a nutjob with lycanthropy that escaped an asylum... If it was a new skin called Asylum Warwick, I would say "Awesome, nice concept and nice skin" and would probably even buy. The problem is that it is replacing the old FERAL and using the same name, when it isn't the same! Some people don't understand this."

Do you understand why the outrage? It is not that we like to complain, hell this is even the first time I am complaining about something, so far I have loved all reworks, Warwick included, the kit is awesome and all the skins look like an improvement, except this one!

Edit: spelling

Wyrmblade5 votes

The criticism is because the very idea of the skin is different from the original. I don't consider it low quality, just that it was wrong to change this from Feral Warwick to Laboratory Warwick.

TheHappyReaperz5 votes

Old feral WW really wasn't much of a change from the base model. The new one has a different claw hand, a broken muzzle, and a ripped up straight-jacket.

MAKAVELIncarnate9 votes

To me it's less about how different it is, but more about how imaginative it is. I liked the original Feral WW skin because I got to be the embodiment of the image that was displayed.

Mortum6 votes

Exactly, the people who don't agree with us say that the skins has more quality, or has more features, etc so it is better. That's not the point, yes the skin BY ITSELF is good. BUT it is not FERAL, it is not the skin we bought and it definitly didn't retain the identity that it had before. He was supposed to be a traditional savage werewolf in this skin, not a nutjob with lycanthropy that escaped an asylum... If it was a new skin called Asylum Warwick, I would say "Awesome, nice concept and nice skin" and would probably even buy. The problem is that it is replacing the old FERAL and using the same name, when it isn't the same! Some people don't understand this.

Edit: spelling

xXReverseXx7 votes

You can't see any of those things in game. It literally just looks like a brown default skin (aka chroma to an ugly color....). Old feral ww was very different. It took the original look, stripped him naked and colored him different to seem more natural. Had chains around his neck and wrists to show he is feral (belonging to nature especially in reference to after attempts at domestication). Had scars on him like a natural animal would. Had arrows coming out of him as if he has been being chased by mankind. And his eyes glowed yellow to show that he was feral from his very soul.

The new one has a claw change (like every single other skin) that is completely unnoticeable ingame. A broken muzzle which is really the only thing going for it but honestly isnt all that noticeable. And what is suppose to look like a straight jacket but ends up making him look like a villager in tattered clothes and, again, certainly doesn't put off the feel of "straight jacket" while in game.

xelaker5 votes

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The whole concept of the skin changed and I'm pretty disappointed by it. It's not a bad skin, but now even the classic skin is closer to the aesthetic of old feral Warwick than the newer one. Really the same theme could at least be kept across reworks if you are not going to allow skin refunds as a result of situations like this. This is not even close to what I bought... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31wokpdqLfI

totally agree. I bought the feral ww skin because I love traditional werewolves and they went and made ww a steampunk werewolf and the one skin I had hopes for looks like the normal ww with a helmet

VelvetCrotch5 votes

I do so agree! Sadly in EUW this things isn't much discussed. But there do exist some dudes like me and others who agree with u and the others here.

I was so proud to get this skin a few years ago, waited 4 fu years for his rework. Than someone of riot said he like the new feral skin the most. I was so hyped of it.

And than we get this; a asylum-themed skin with squirrel-identity.

In an objective way this skin looks cool, but in a subjective way this skin sucks cause it doesn't look feral, wild, medieval in any way.

There are so many creative ways even explained here in this thread how he should ve been - and I hope he will be.

It's ok and understandable that he can't be 100% like the old one and that's fine with me. But not a 180% turn-around with a complete different identity! Cheers

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