M.F Sent Twisted F. To Steal this Crimson-coil dagger

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"Tonight was merely the endgame: Hiring T.F., tipping off Graves – all just to distract Gangplank. It had taken years to exact her revenge."

She wanted the dagger, So Miss Fortune hired T.F to steal that Crimson-coil dagger. She couldn't guess that T.F wouldn't make it and wouldn't instead deliver the job -- even with Graves being there. Maybe the dagger belonged to her parents and she wanted it back?

She wanted the dagger to reach Gangplank hands, And, does it mention anywhere that her parents were important? Or just random folk GP happened to kill in his ascension to power? If so, why was M.F so worried about being under the radar all those years -- "(...)waiting until she wasn’t even a memory to him, for him to drop his guard and get comfortable in the life he’d built." -- she was a child when he last saw her, and it doesn't say she, or her parents were any memorable, important foes. If he is this vicious killer, who again are the Jack and Jane he killed 15 years ago...

If she'd come up to him and say "AFTER ALL THESE YEARS!" -- wouldn't he just: "Errhh ... hi... you"

Unless they weren't just any family ;D or at least, what he wanted from them wasn't anything uninportant that wouldn't make him remember who he murdered to get it!

If her parents are some random folk, and so is she, why would've Gangplank have killed them? -- To steal a dagger that glows inside water! -- "The dagger is falling. Into the abyss. There it goes... Is it glowing?".

A possibility is that the dagger did belong to her parents and it has indeed some properties, or it is special somehow, and she maneuvered T.F and Graves there, both on different missions, not only to distract Gangplank, but for the whole thing to 'smell funny' for him. For him to think "Why this dagger?" -- before he met his end -- I assume at least, as it's usual, for the avenger to want his victim to see his face before the final blow.

TL;DR

  1. M.F hired T.F to steal a dagger that would hint to Gangplank that something bigger was going on.
  2. Put Graves into it for the job to take a wrong turn.
  3. It isn't stated anywhere that her parents are memorable for her to be so scared of entering Gangplank radar.
  4. The dagger is, however, hinted to be special -- a dagger that GP stole from her parents.
  5. GP by getting hold of the dagger would remember who and when he got it from by asking himself: "Who would want this?"

And then right after he got his eureka ----- BOOM.

21 Comments

TotalJerk4 votes

My interpretation of the "is it glowing?" part was that the glow was actually the reflection of the ship exploding behind him.

The Soulforged3 votes

I don't know why, but I really dislike Tahm as a champion adding far too much extra to already existing stories without binding them in a more plot twisty way. If it was bearded lady related we could get some interesting info as to what she is.

Rito Staff1 votes

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I don't know why, but I really dislike Tahm as a champion adding far too much extra to already existing stories without binding them in a more plot twisty way. If it was bearded lady related we could get some interesting info as to what she is.

Aham, 1st guess is Bearded-Lady, 2nd guess is the dagger because it'd be interesting if we had more information about it too. But a strong guess, and also an easy one, is that no one actually saw him dead.

The first one would be more interesting imo

Astral Zephyroro1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Don Noat Amu,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=fXxmYw4A,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2015-08-01T18:43:57.054+0000)

Aham, 1st guess is Bearded-Lady, 2nd guess is the dagger because it'd be interesting if we had more information about it too. But a strong guess, and also an easy one, is that no one actually saw him dead.

The first one would be more interesting imo

From a lore perspective I would use the Dagger, it keeps a strong tie between MF and GP, and it gives more reason for GP to have murdered her parents. GP doesnt seem like the type to ever do raping and pillaging for the sake of raping and pillaging. He is always seeking some other way to solidify his control over the seas and the poor bastards that would usurp his self proclaimed "rule"

Rito Staff1 votes

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GP doesnt seem like the type to ever do raping and pillaging for the sake of raping and pillaging. He is always seeking some other way to solidify his control over the seas and the poor bastards that would usurp his self proclaimed "rule"

Ya what I thought :D -- he went to the workshop as its said in the story. If they weren't straight away enemies then he went there to somehow increase his power. Like Voldmort pursuing the Deathly Hollows is Gangplank pursuing special items and whatnots.

I hope they bring out answers this next Act (there is going to be one right?)

Shosuko2 votes

GP gets blown apart... Eat an orange and is k.

Candel2 votes

MFW Orange related is winning http://i.imgur.com/YAHWkZP.jpg?1

Rito Staff1 votes

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MFW Orange related is winning http://i.imgur.com/YAHWkZP.jpg?1

xD mfw?

Mistress Madoka1 votes

"My face when"

Astral Zephyroro1 votes

It isn't stated anywhere that her parents are memorable for her to be so scared of entering Gangplank radar.

To be honest Gangplank is the kind of guy you have to respect for how dangerous he is, thats why she is scared/wary when it involves him.

Rito Staff1 votes

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It isn't stated anywhere that her parents are memorable for her to be so scared of entering Gangplank radar.

To be honest Gangplank is the kind of guy you have to respect for how dangerous he is, thats why she is scared/wary when it involves him.

Yes indeed. But quoting "(...)waiting until she wasn’t even a memory to him." -- it might be she just not wanting him snooping around, like any other person, as it might be her wanting to be off his radar, in fear of being recognized.

Astral Zephyroro1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Don Noat Amu,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=fXxmYw4A,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2015-08-01T18:36:04.957+0000)

Yes indeed. But quoting "(...)waiting until she wasn’t even a memory to him." -- it might be she just not wanting him snooping around, like any other person, as it might be her wanting to be off his radar, in fear of being recognized.

Of course she wants to be off his radar, Gangplank could be quite cruel and the best bet on taking that rusty ole seadog out is through a sneak attack. She did not want him aware of her presence, he most likely would not have even realized who she was even if he did see her but why risk it? GP has all kinds of backup all over Bilgewater and those not fighting for him are most likely to scared to fight against him. Staying off the radar just makes more sense wouldnt it?

GreenLore1 votes

The dagger seemed to be indeed magical(it did glow when it sunk into the ocean),but I doubt that MF really wanted the dagger.

SHE was the one who gave Graves the info about Twisted fate,she wanted TF to fail and get caught by Gangplank,so that she could kill GP.

Rito Staff1 votes

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The dagger seemed to be indeed magical(it did glow when it sunk into the ocean),but I doubt that MF really wanted the dagger.

SHE was the one who gave Graves the info about Twisted fate,she wanted TF to fail and get caught by Gangplank,so that she could kill GP.

And if he got caught, as probably planned indeed -- Why that particular dagger? =D maybe the dagger isn't some random item!

RiotRiotJaredan13 votes

MF set up a conflict between two people she knew would cause a big problem for Gangplank. She wanted a mess as not only would it force Gangplank to respond, it would be very difficult for him to keep quiet from his numerous rivals in Bilgewater. As he states in Act 1, it's how he's perceived that allows him to keep his position and keep others in their place.

If someone could get to one of his more important storage facilities and expose it, then Gangplank's power would be shaken.

The show he put on for Bilgewater when he tried to execute TF and Graves was made necessary because of keeping his image of being untouchable, of making an example of anyone who would dare—as MF knew he would.

The dagger was not an important part of the plan, she could have chosen anything. However, that doesn't mean the dagger doesn't have its own importance.

Aproxima1 votes

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MF set up a conflict between two people she knew would cause a big problem for Gangplank. She wanted a mess as not only would it force Gangplank to respond, it would be very difficult for him to keep quiet from his numerous rivals in Bilgewater. As he states in Act 1, it's how he's perceived that allows him to keep his position and keep others in their place.

If someone could get to one of his more important storage facilities and expose it, then Gangplank's power would be shaken.

The show he put on for Bilgewater when he tried to execute TF and Graves was made necessary because of keeping his image of being untouchable, of making an example of anyone who would dare—as MF knew he would.

The dagger was not an important part of the plan, she could have chosen anything. However, that doesn't mean the dagger doesn't have its own importance.

To be honest I was quite disappointed with the way he chose to execute them. First the built up leading to it suggested something more epic than just simple drowning, but mostly where is the show in just tying someone up and making them drown? I had expected something way WAY more flashier. Maybe something long the line of this/wiki/Blowing_from_a_gun). Now THAT'd be a show.

Rito Staff1 votes

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To be honest I was quite disappointed with the way he chose to execute them. First the built up leading to it suggested something more epic than just simple drowning, but mostly where is the show in just tying someone up and making them drown? I had expected something way WAY more flashier. Maybe something long the line of this/wiki/Blowing_from_a_gun). Now THAT'd be a show.

Indeed more flashy x) but drowning seems to be more agonizingly painful

Astral Zephyroro1 votes

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MF set up a conflict between two people she knew would cause a big problem for Gangplank. She wanted a mess as not only would it force Gangplank to respond, it would be very difficult for him to keep quiet from his numerous rivals in Bilgewater. As he states in Act 1, it's how he's perceived that allows him to keep his position and keep others in their place.

If someone could get to one of his more important storage facilities and expose it, then Gangplank's power would be shaken.

The show he put on for Bilgewater when he tried to execute TF and Graves was made necessary because of keeping his image of being untouchable, of making an example of anyone who would dare—as MF knew he would.

The dagger was not an important part of the plan, she could have chosen anything. However, that doesn't mean the dagger doesn't have its own importance.

Yo Jaredan, I like you my friend, but that gives you no right to clear up a question and leave us with another >.<

ArcticSirius1 votes

I need more info on this dagger ;-;

Sandalman30001 votes

It just gives 15% attack speed.

1011001110001 votes

Honestly, I feel like she purposefully knew TF would get caught, and that Gangplank would make his killing a spectacle, and saw it as the perfect way to sabotage and blow up his ship. The dagger was just something she needed to get TF in on the job and unwittingly become the bait.

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