Now that Quinn is getting looked at, can we play as Valor again?

Valor Bot·2/24/2018, 4:14:09 PM·62 votes·3,422 views

http://imgur.com/yJmwm4s


And by playing as Valor again, I mean visuals only -- no changes to the mechanics or functionality of the spell required. While I understand her current ult's visuals were developed to accommodate the new ability, it unfortunately also causes Valor to quadruple in size out of nowhere, whereas every other spell such as Q and Harrier has him at his standard size. This aspect of Behind Enemy Lines really throws any visual consistency out the window while also making Quinn's model and hitbox look huge even though she's supposed to feel light and nimble as a character.

I know some players felt that turning into a bird was silly or out of place, but having the ability to take control of Valor played into Quinn's tag team thematic while also allowing players to fulfill the fantasy of being a swift eagle scouting enemy lines from the skies. I've said this elsewhere, but in Assassin's Creed: Origins, there’s an ability where the player (a falconer named Bayek) can take control of a hawk called Senu to scout out the area. This is more or less the fantasy I’d like back with the visual changes to Quinn’s ultimate:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTr4ymC-HwQ


The best part is that it wouldn't really require many changes to her current visuals, as all of Valor's old animations are still in the game files. I suspect it may require a couple of tweaks to her channeling animation, but it shouldn't be anything major (at least, nowhere near the scope of visual changes Xin Zhao received in his mini-update, for example).

51 Comments

Gwenavere2/24/2018, 4:19:07 PM21 votes

Seconded. While not as good as being able to attack with Valor again, this would be a huge improvement in terms of the visual impact and the feel of Valor within Quinn's current kit. The current ult just visually makes no sense; a fantasy of you flying around as Valor while Quinn follows along through the trees or whatever would be so much better.

RainbowIcee2/24/2018, 8:18:06 PM10 votes

Old Quinn > New quinn. The new one was just a short lived fad. Give me my blind back and my coward hunting valor.

Placentas2/24/2018, 4:25:57 PM10 votes

Please please please

Rito we just want to be our heroic beautiful bird again, for many of us it's WHY we chose to play as Quinn AND Valor.

KestrelGirl2/24/2018, 4:20:42 PM7 votes

I second this! Valor's animations, and possibly textures and models too, are still in the game. All that is required is the creation of Heartseeker Valor.

Death Rex2/24/2018, 8:20:23 PM4 votes

I never understood why playing as Valor is so hyped. Can somebody explain it to me? I never got to play old Quinn and I enjoy the current ult.

Chembaron Yamada2/24/2018, 8:23:49 PM3 votes

I prefer the current form.

Quinn and Valor flying together is better thematically in my opinion than Valor flying alone.

FlameHalbrdOkido2/24/2018, 8:30:20 PM3 votes

So basically what ur saying is, when Quinn ults, don't make Valor carry her, just switch the hit box to Valor and have an animation of quinn run to the nearest bush/wall and jump over it/jump in it and disappear insinuating that she will follow Valor at a distance/hidden, and that Valor doesn't get to attack but maybe possibly can use W, and then reactivating the ult/targeting a unit will cause Quinn to jump from the nearest bush and shoot arrows from the sky? Seems like it could work.

Neamean2/25/2018, 2:32:24 AM3 votes

Honestly though, I would laugh my ass off if they keep this idea of Valor carrying Quinn but having Valor be his actual size.

Like this

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/digimon/images/e/e4/Nohemon_b.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20121122115903

sutora32/24/2018, 5:16:13 PM2 votes

the only thing I want is the passive bug fix no more missed kills or cs because I autoed a milisecond earlier

Vah Medoh2/24/2018, 10:08:31 PM2 votes

I miss those old days were Valor could instakill almost the other adc with E-Q-AA and R if tried to escape... Now that Rengar has got his Q back as before, maybe Quinn could be backed too =/

TheWoollyMammoth2/24/2018, 10:19:56 PM2 votes

I would love a full revert into old quinn. I liked playing as the burst bird of death.

Dead Anime Dad2/24/2018, 11:11:46 PM2 votes

I always stood by that old quinn's best feature was the ability to not play her, but also play a birb.

ModAcademy Kayn2/24/2018, 7:11:32 PM2 votes

Other than that seems kinda outta scope of the type of Work they're doing for Quinn (or maybe I misread it), but I don't think it's likely to happen. Ranged Carry going into Melee mode was what was really made it strange.

YuGiHo2/24/2018, 11:50:50 PM2 votes

i want melee quinn back

hhaavviikk2/25/2018, 7:41:03 AM2 votes

you mean you don't want valor to be a glorified speed boost? madness!

duckinthewood2/24/2018, 9:27:51 PM2 votes

i honestly think the old ult was much better, i dont want to play just quinn only quinn , i want to play the both character like back in the days. If valor is just a "roaming tool" then i dont know, i guess there is nothing i can enjoy in this ult. feelsbadman

VelvetCrotch2/26/2018, 1:55:46 PM1 votes

I personally like the big bad bird. Why not change everything matching the bigger valor ;P

Mushrooms2/24/2018, 4:41:31 PM1 votes

no. no quinn buffs.

Nymzo2/24/2018, 5:16:27 PM1 votes

While playing Valor would be great again, you need a GOOD reason to justify a marksman going all melee, even if she's an assasin.

I know a marksman that is forced to fight at melee range is every single melee player's wet dream but come on now.

KyKaywhy2/24/2018, 5:19:24 PM1 votes

Riot all we want is Valor's return AND PROJECT: Quinn! <3 Please give us what we want

Dokueki Kenshin2/24/2018, 6:02:55 PM1 votes

Quinn main here.

While I’m not opposed to the idea of bringing Valor back in a more significant way (I played both old and new), I’d prefer if Valor didn’t become a puppet type character. It was that exact reason why I never picked up Annie or Shaco: a huge part of their hidden power is controlling their pets/clones and I just don’t enjoy that mechanic.

The Blue Rajah2/24/2018, 6:26:42 PM1 votes

Yes please! This would make me so happy!

GGLineaR2/24/2018, 8:25:37 PM1 votes

Honestly, if they do that, I'd prefer they go back to her original design as a melee assassin.

Saying this as someone who plays Yorick and Urgot top lane and Ezreal bot lane.

I'm tired of seeing her toplane when she is viable, but her character concept deserves attention. Because it is interesting.

Solari Fortune2/24/2018, 8:52:16 PM1 votes

I am rather split on being just valor again While yes current Valor is just a taxi I like the idea of Valor swooping down and lifting her.

LordGeovanni2/24/2018, 11:10:06 PM1 votes

the might as well just make valor his own champion like rakan to xayah but not like rakan to xayah because i dont want to have half of my strength locked in an adc and that same adc has none of their strength dependent on me

Kiskil Lyra2/24/2018, 11:43:36 PM1 votes

@valor bot no,we cant sadly

cityboifah2/25/2018, 6:15:32 AM1 votes
jama6552/25/2018, 1:42:14 PM1 votes

Talon is already a champion

AmenPerson2/25/2018, 2:32:54 PM1 votes

I'd prefer not. And plus, there has to be a reason why they made it so Quinn is there. Unless they change there mind on that reason, I doubt this will ever be a thing.

Thegreatxiu2/25/2018, 5:41:31 PM1 votes

As someone who has recently become quite fond of Quinn I approve of this message.