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Some feedback on Evelynn's new in-game model/art assets

Valor Bot··77 votes·6,263 views

Note: Any points I make here will be based on Evelynn's teaser footage alone. I know things are subject to change between now and her release, I'm just going off of the content we've gotten thus far.

https://i.imgur.com/uoTskp1.png"

  • Evelynn's model looks really bare. By that I don't mean she's too naked; rather, that it seems her model is missing some pretty significant components, like additional modeling and VFX work. Her "clothes" for example are just flat textures pasted onto her skin. Why not make it more like in her teaser, where she is wrapped in moving shadows surrounding her body? A champion who already uses this technology would be Yorick with his black cape:

https://i.imgur.com/VoN2qMD.jpg"

https://i.imgur.com/DQQa6mu.png"

  • Her textures lack detail. League is a top-down game, which means yeah, most details will be lost at game height. That doesn't necessarily mean there should be no detail though -- in the image above, for example, I can't really tell what her tentacles/lashes are made out of (are they chitinous? flesh-like? cloth?). Same goes for the textures covering her lady parts -- is it clothing? scales? skin? Her hair looks like it could use a lot more detail work too, along with the aforementioned VFX changes of giving it more of a vibrant pinkish glow as shown in her teaser:

https://i.imgur.com/v9BYO93.png"

Again, I know things are subject to change, but I feel like these are actually pretty huge assets her model is missing which are probably unlikely to be added at this stage of her development, but still worth mentioning in the off chance there might still be time to put them in. It might also be that these were all very conscious decisions the team made behind-the-scenes for reasons or limitations that I don't know about -- apologies if that's the case.

[poppy-wink]

62 Comments

Tiniest Turtle19 votes

Although I agree her "clothes" look a little body painty, if you watch the teaser closely enough you'll notice that they do move. Just stare at her not entirely covered leg and watch the pink part shift around.

Karn Bishop6 votes

Pretty sure the body paint look is intentional, i do think it needs more detail in order to look more "real" and less static. but i like the general idea of them using what i dub shadow paint clothes.

Tiniest Turtle2 votes

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Pretty sure the body paint look is intentional, i do think it needs more detail in order to look more "real" and less static. but i like the general idea of them using what i dub shadow paint clothes.

I was hoping for more shadow smoke clothes but yeah, she's wearing liquid darkness.

Hupsis11 votes

I don't really see an issue with her... "clothing". Her hair is the thing that bothers me most. From the teaser and splash art her hair gave the impression that the pink part was acting more like a flame. In her ingame model it just looks painted. I kinda hoped she would have had completely white hair with flaming pink effect.

Hupsis3 votes

Also her eyes in her "alluring" mode are cat eyes that people usually consider a trait for predators. I though her human form was supposed to be her way of luring people to her. Why so scary looking predator eyes then? I can understand predatory eyes on her shadow form but not on human form.

In her splash art she has light yellow irises and the ingame model has deep spongebob colored irises.

Quickly edited the irises on the model to fit more with the splash. https://imgur.com/a/j8Pag

morris15 votes

I'm of the opinion she would look better without irises altogether, like in her first teaser.

Hupsis2 votes

I tried removing the pupils (the black part of the eye) and it just made her look blind. Maybe I did something wrong :P

Karn Bishop9 votes

Actually i think they were actually going for a painted on look, ever see a chick with her bouncies painted? wearing clothes yet not, so while the textures might need more detail on those parts i am glad they did not go the bikini route as she is not ahri.

Rengooo4 votes

Because some people still play league on their family toaster.

I'm sure moving shadows for clothes would be very strenuous on such devices.

Skelenth52 votes

Both Kayn and Yorick use that tech. Having it on Eve wouldn't change a thing.

Electro5223 votes

Because said things aren't on their model. They could be considered special particle effects, instead of being certain animations on the model of the character.

That's what OP is asking for, and it may just be out Riot's reach due to their stance on having League be playable on literally anything that has some sort of graphics card.

Hello I am Bird13 votes

Why not just disallow it for the lower tiers of graphical levels in the options menu then?

Rengooo2 votes

Humour is lost on this community.

Edit; Keep downvoting :/ you're only proving my point.

Melledoneus38 votes

Humor implies it is funny in some way. :D

Rengooo2 votes

Lol, a joke is a joke, it may have been a terrible one but people aren't downvoting because of that, not rolling with the Evelynn splash/model hate probably has something to do with it :/

Edit; whats your role on the boards btw? Are you a moderator?

Melledoneus17 votes

{quoted} Edit; whats your role on the boards btw? Are you a moderator?

Thot slayer. It's a very important role for any medium-sized video game forum. ;P

Rengooo1 votes

Uh huh.

Hope its not moderator otherwise you are doing the exact thing moderators should be trying to disencourage.

Bandwaggoning on the downvotes system.

Melledoneus6 votes

{quoted}

Uh huh.

Hope its not moderator otherwise you are doing the exact thing moderators should be trying to disencourage.

Bandwaggoning on the downvotes system.

Wagons were very important modes of transportation back in the Oregon Trail days. Band wagons would accompany these wagons to help them "rock out" with pleasant melodies of death metal and rock. Too bad so many people died of dysentery, though.

This is the kind of information you can get exclusively from primary sources like the one listed below: http://www.methodshop.com/wp-content/uploads/oregon-trail-feature.png

Rengooo1 votes

Ha.. And here I stand accused of terrible jokes.

I almost like your sense of humour.

Melledoneus3 votes

{quoted}

Ha.. And here I stand accused of terrible jokes.

I almost like your sense of humour.

Well, at least you like it more than I do. :/

Awootïsm1 votes

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Humour is lost on this community. Spelling is apparently lost on this community too; "Humour"

Rengooo4 votes

Standard NA comment right there.

"The American way of spelling is the only way of spelling".

Look it up. Where I'm from it is spelt Humour.

Catastrop1 votes

{quoted}

Spelling is apparently lost on this community too; "Humour"

So spelling things the right way is wrong?

aspects11 votes

on a side note, only with kayn, right when the game starts, when i open the shop, there is like a 4s delay where everything just freezes its only with kayn, no one else, and it onyl happens when you first open the shop am i the only one that gets this?

xelaker1 votes

do you actually play on a toaster? I have a nice pc, so I can't verify though. league client is pretty derpy though, try lowering the graphics and testing it?

aspects11 votes

it only happens with kayn tho, thats why its strange

RastaBrotha1 votes

not at the start but whenever I transform and open the shop simultaneously, rhaast seems insulted at my lack of interest to his epic shapeshift and freezes my screen for 5s

edit: yes i play on a toaster

ChaosThief4 votes

It is possible that they're still working on the model and textures. Though at this point I would guess they're pretty close to done.

Nothing is set in stone yet, so yeah it's worth mentioning this kind of stuff.

Steelflame4 votes

Considering how late the changes can be done for art assets, Riot is often finalizing art assets on PBE for new content. Until its on live, don't count it as complete.

Linna Excel2 votes

Riot will almost never make a model this late in the game, and if they did it wouldn't be anything more than a slight tweak of a vertice or two.

Textures might still get touched up though.

Papa Rinky2 votes

Fiora was modified

ZER0 21 votes

They changed Jinx's model almost completely actually!

Sexy Jack Rabbit1 votes

They changed her textures, not her model

ZER0 22 votes

That's what people are talking about though. The shadows (if they made them all shadow-y) would just be texture. Not a remake of the model. Jinx's WHOLE TEXTURE MAP was re-done, and when it was, they said they "updated her model". So I'm not wrong, really, if you'd like to get into specifics. [slayer-jinx-catface]

Sanford and Son1 votes

What they need to do is shrink Masquerade's Beehive. The default model itself is fine but I can see the textures could use a little more pizzazz in a way. Maybe some particle effects for movement or even taunts.

Brascus4 votes

I have seen Riot fix certain inconsistencies like tarics v crotch shirt originally not reaching his crotch, that's a texture fix so no big deal, but the fx could be trickier meaning they either tried it out and couldn't get it to work the way they wanted, either delaying it or axing it. My money's on the latter ofc, though it would be great if I was wrong.

Tattersall3 votes

Just want to say tho, they got the hands right. The hands look cool.

Jerry SeinfeId3 votes

I think it'll be alot better when you're actually from the ingame perspective. However, i do agree that her clothes should feel less flat. I'm guessing they went with this to make it look as tight fitting as possible but this close up that just doesn't work. giving them some more 3d feel wether it's through the model or textures would be great i think.

SorakaFutaRod2 votes

I don't know, I like the fact that it look more like a skin color than actual clothing. Reminds me a lot of Midna actually.

Papa Andrei2 votes

I remember the team working on Yorick stating his cape alone took the longest time out of any of his design assets to get right. It would be hard to add in now.

korg0232 votes

I find her too oversexualized , i am a guy and i have no problem seeing good atribues at a lady champion also i am not gay, but just look at her model. I mean they tried too hard to make her look "sexy" or idk so it became anticlimactic. Also i guess majority disagrees with me and there are some people actually wanting to see fully naked champion so downvotes come here.

Steelflame8 votes

She is supposed to be a succubus-like being (they even gave her a charm). Being sexy/slutty incarnation of lust is practically a requirement for the basic idea of one. I don't really care about how she looks, but Riot has been set on turning her into a succubi for a long time.

SorakaFutaRod2 votes

I understand what you feel, but, I don't know, the way it is done works for me. I feel like MF is more oversexualized than her. I think it feel right because she is supposed to be like that, and it's done pretty well. I mean, they didn't just smashed big boobs on a female character like MF or Cait to make her attractive. They made the sexiness right, it makes sense with the character. I get more of a general feeling of sexiness in her character has a whole than just random sexy right into my face with some bimbo body and slutty voice cover (still looking at you MF). For me it clicks.

Karfuss2 votes

While I agree that shadowy clothing textures on a loop, similar to Yorick's cape, would look visually stunning...

Yorick's rework design team stated that it was hardest asset to animate. So I don't quite know how to feel about it. If the same asset can be adapted then go for it, but if you're building it from the ground up again, I'd question how much effect it would really add to make it worth the time spent.

Call Me Nana2 votes

The pupils bother me so much.

The art without them looks so much nicer. :(

Dessem1 votes

Again, I know things are subject to change,

Once it's on PBE, not much change going to happen to it, I suspect. Generally they only ship things they're already happy with, so aside from some numbers tweaks on her abilities we'll get the Evelynn they're showing us now.

TheOnlyJoe1 votes

That's far from the truth. Model changes on PBE happen all the time, not only with new skins but also with reworks. Take Fiora for example

I wouldn't expect Riot to do a change as large as make her "clothes" moving vfx/shadows, but it wouldn't suprise me if they changed some other things to make it look better

Mcsquzzy1 votes

kinda agree, her "clothes" look more like body paint, kinda preferred the bondage clothes but love the new head arms and even the tentacles

xSlyth1 votes

Hello, boys,

I have to agree that it needs some fixes. It is sexy as fuck but some fixes are needed, and I will list them below:

  1. Her eyes.. should be fixed and made to be angry and demonic like in the first teaser
  2. I agree on the hair, more detail is needed there
  3. The clothes.. moving shadows or something rather than flat patches would be great
  4. Her boobs should be bigger, like MF's and katas.

That's all from me :) I can't wait to see her skins .. hopefully, safecracker is still the best one .....

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