First you stop putting helmets on her skins, even though she was sort of meant to be the female version of Pantheon in that aspect, then you put her in a super-tight outfit for her legendary skin that perfectly shows off her ass, and now you're giving her boob-armor in her default splash-art. Why Riot do you have such a problem with letting female characters just be their archetype and not "a female version" of that archetype?
Legacy of Xion13 votesThe art is horrible. Melted gold egg? A really...weird looking pos? Boob plates?
Riot has pissed me off. Evrry other splqsh is far superior then the new one.
Valaran Nara10 votesThe art is horrible. Melted gold egg? A really...weird looking pos? Boob plates?
Riot has pissed me off. Evrry other splqsh is far superior then the new one.
Boob plates was something unnecessary.
Melted egg is her ulti. It's artist interpretation.
Weird looking pose? That's her natural stance in game. She flies around with her knees bent and legs lifted up, almost as though she's sitting. You see this all the time in game, but people haven't complained about it until it got put into a splash. Mostly because of the boob plate. It's almost certainly the boob plate that cause others to try to look for anything they could attempt to say "SEXUALLIZED" because they're in that mode of thinking.
BasedDrake4 votesI dont really see a problem with the boob plate, it looks like there is one on her current Live splash, but since we're seeing her from below we can see it more.
Legacy of Xion13 votesThe art is horrible. Melted gold egg? A really...weird looking pos? Boob plates?
Riot has pissed me off. Evrry other splqsh is far superior then the new one.
Boob plates was something unnecessary.
Melted egg is her ulti. It's artist interpretation.
Weird looking pose? That's her natural stance in game. She flies around with her knees bent and legs lifted up, almost as though she's sitting. You see this all the time in game, but people haven't complained about it until it got put into a splash. Mostly because of the boob plate. It's almost certainly the boob plate that cause others to try to look for anything they could attempt to say "SEXUALLIZED" because they're in that mode of thinking.
Im not screaming sexualization.
Im screaming stupid artistic interpretation.
RoyaiChaos1 votesIt's not the boob plate that I don't like, but it's the fact that it sticks up so much. Like you can actually see it in her icon...
Motajo8 votesFirst you stop putting helmets on her skins
Yes. I bought Unmasked Kayle when it was the only skin without a helm. Every new skin from there (Judgment to a much lesser extent for me) has made that purchase just feel bad. The entire point to the skin was usurped by everything afterwards.
Drukyul6 votesGood point: we need helmetless Pantheon.
Kikirino3 votesSex sells. Doesn't matter if some of us get sick of it. Doesn't matter that we want champions like Kayle to be left alone. The majority of players like it. So what does Riot do? Makes a sexualized angel.
Doesn't bother me so much anymore though. Splash arts are looking less and less like the in-game models so I do care about splash arts anymore. As long as Kayle's model stays as it is I will be happy.
Destínum14 votesI know, but it's just so sad that they can't even make one exception for this. If they would ever give her a skin that's intentionally sexy (like about 90% of female characters do), I swear I would never touch anything even remotely related to this game (and this comes from someone who's dream is to work at Riot btw).
Feather4261 votesPlease, please, please, work at Riot. Just based off of your opinion of Kayle.
GenoXx3 votesomg would u all stop crying about kayle ffs. these are all trivial complaints. -Boob plates -Helmets -Shows off ass Just stop.....seriously that's nothing to complain about.
Grand Medic2 votesI don't even understand the shows ass complaint. She wears armor and you can hardly even see it. Would people scream "OMG she's showing boobs!" if they showed part of her neck?
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Pryotra8 votes1)No, it really isn't. 2)There are other ways to do this besides accentuating boobs. Coming from a boob man, boobs are hardly the deciding factor of it is a woman or not.
For example, there are men with boobs 
and women without
.
Also, as Riot is so fond of reminding us, dat @ss.
Not to mention voice, lore, hair, movement types, etc. There are many ways to convey "I'm a girl!" other than "Look at my boobs!"
12tales5 votes
- it's probably practical
Armor that makes any object colliding with your chest slide towards the center of your body is bad armor. Practical armor would be designed such that any weapon striking you would be pushed to the side, under your arms. 'Cause, you know, you don't have any vital organs there.
5G8Nri0B541 votesThe most well-known depiction of a WOMAN in any shape to battle is probably the statue of Athena.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/62/Mattei_Athena_Louvre_Ma530.jpg
Sure doesn't look practical does it?
No Boob-Armour. In fact, she's not wearing ANY armour at all.
Being a divine deity probably contributed to that, but the most important message is,** you can't bring in stuff like "practicality or believability" when you are talking about celestial female warriors who sings flaming swords and shields herself with liquid light.**
Feather4261 votesYou realize that statue is coming from a place where everybody was sculpted (pretty much) naked, right?
ZeldaKick3 votesTypically, I'd agree. But then, looking at more of the skins for her, most of them have breast plates. We should be lucky that they put the diamond divider in the middle of her chest, otherwise they've done studies that if breast plates were actually a thing for women, our chest cavities would get crushed under impact.
But, take a look at the Chinese splash arts for Kayle. I'm pretty sure after that, you'll enjoy this one. It is a pose from her in game character. And she's looking down at you because she's flying. So you'll see different things than if she was at eye level with you.
I dont agree with over sexualizing champions, but I think that is why they also toned it down with Ahri.
LeeDark8 votesAhri is the ONE champion they shouldn't tone down. Her sexualization is part of her character. Everywhere else it is either unnecessary or outright offensive because it goes AGAINST the character.
Destínum6 votesThe funny part though is that judging from their appearance only, Ahri is actually one of the less sexualized characters.
5G8Nri0B542 votesExcept she always had boob armour even in her original splash...
More importantly, you're kinda just looking to be offended by the new splash art. If you asked any person who hasn't had prior knowledge of Kayle's lack of phallus what her gender was, they'd most likely answer male.
Yet if you take notice of her two amazingly tiny breasts you might identify her as female, but at the same time, you REALLY need to specifically pay attention to them to notice it. There's a helluva lot of things going on in the splash art, you need to be specifically looking for boobs in order to notice them in Kayle's splash, as in they're looking for something to be offended by.
It's very similar to the time people decided to be offended by 
's old voice just because they could not find anything to be offended by visually. So they chose to be offended by her voice instead.
12tales5 votesyou need to be specifically looking for boobs in order to notice them in Kayle's splash
They were literally the first things I noticed. I mean, they're so prominent that they cover her face. Especially if you're looking at her champion square, they draw attention.
5G8Nri0B541 votesIn other words, the only thing in your mind when seeing that splash art were her BOOBS.
Those things are no bigger or different than those in the classic splash art, only difference is better textures and from an angle of someone looking up at her as she descends.
SoUdyrlyTerrible2 votesThe armor under the 100% aesthetic boob-plate is straight, normal plate armor, so it's not an issue that would affect the usability of the armor. She always had it anyways, not really seeing why you have a problem with it now, guess you just wanted a reason to whine on the internet.
JustBoneBrook2 votesYou know boobs need to be protected: Circular armor are stronger... that becose there no weakess in it every where it strong so it make more sence the kayle armor ... BTW SHE IN A ARMOR AND YOU DONT SEE ANY THING!!!! so shut up about boobs !
You know that what is use in fencing for women to protect there boobs: http://www.leonpaulusa.com/acatalog/fencing_chest_protectors_59l.jpg so what the prob of this? women got boobs that sad but it a fact
12tales6 votesYou can't really compare the stresses of electric fencing to the stresses of dueling someone with a Zweihander. As a fencer - if you get hit solidly in your body center with a foil, you're barely going to sting, and you're definitely not gonna feel it the next morning. I doubt that the same could be said of a long sword or a crossbow bolt.
Circular armor are stronger... that becose there no weakess in it every where it strong so it make more sence the kayle armor ...
What actually happens with 'circular armor' is that, whenever something hits the inside half of the armored person's boobs, it slides directly into the center of their chest and delivers all of its force to the struck person. Which is pretty unhealthy. Using Lorica Segmentata as an example because I'm a big fan of Roman military history -
http://www.historicalreplicas.net/img/Breast-Plates/HR-1019.jpg
...you'll see that the armor is roughly cylindrical. So, any weapon striking the chest of the person wearing the armor will be deflected along the curve of the armor and ultimately not cause particularly grievous injury. The only remotely historical example of boob plates that I can think of is the muscle cuirass, and those things were never actually used for practical purposes - they were only there to impress viewers. Like the boob plates that are inexplicably present in most modern video games.
JustBoneBrook1 votesYou can't really compare the stresses of electric fencing to the stresses of dueling someone with a Zweihander. As a fencer - if you get hit solidly in your body center with a foil, you're barely going to sting, and you're definitely not gonna feel it the next morning. I doubt that the same could be said of a long sword or a crossbow bolt.
Circular armor are stronger... that becose there no weakess in it every where it strong so it make more sence the kayle armor ...
What actually happens with 'circular armor' is that, whenever something hits the inside half of the armored person's boobs, it slides directly into the center of their chest and delivers all of its force to the struck person. Which is pretty unhealthy. Using Lorica Segmentata as an example because I'm a big fan of Roman military history -
http://www.historicalreplicas.net/img/Breast-Plates/HR-1019.jpg
...you'll see that the armor is roughly cylindrical. So, any weapon striking the chest of the person wearing the armor will be deflected along the curve of the armor and ultimately not cause particularly grievous injury. The only remotely historical example of boob plates that I can think of is the muscle cuirass, and those things were never actually used for practical purposes - they were only there to impress viewers. Like the boob plates that are inexplicably present in most modern video games.
But you know no female in Roman military history right? All male in well it circular at too the shoulder and the torso well every where I am sure you would see the boobs protecter if it was for famale.
May be 99% male and WTF a famale? get out of my army...
5G8Nri0B541 votesThe only remotely historical example of boob plates that I can think of is the muscle cuirass, and those things were never actually used for practical purposes
You do know that women never belonged in the military right? Back then if you weren't a prostitute, you were a wife stuck at home pumping out babies. The reason why most historical artwork of armies depicted mostly men fighting other men is because women were never a part of most military battles. The reasons are obvious, but of course these armour did not show any boobs.
The very idea of adding women in a profession with such high mortality rate is impractical to begin with, let alone arguing whether certain armour designs were practical or not.
The closest you can get to a woman who is ready for battle is Athena
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/62/Mattei_Athena_Louvre_Ma530.jpg
And guess what, you're right. No Boob-Armour. In fact, she's not wearing ANY armour at all! Being a divine deity probably contributed to that, but the most important message is,** you can't bring in stuff like "practicality or believability" when you are talking about celestial female warriors who sings flaming swords and shields herself with liquid light.**
12tales3 votesAnd guess what, you're right. No Boob-Armour. In fact, she's not wearing ANY armour at all! Being a divine deity probably contributed to that, but the most important message is, you can't bring in stuff like "practicality or believability" when you are talking about celestial female warriors who sings flaming swords and shields herself with liquid light.
http://www.thecultureconcept.com/circle/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Achilles-Wounded-by-the-Heel.jpg
Screw practicality, I want a naked Greek soldier as my next champion.
5G8Nri0B542 votesLegally Riot can keep really tiny barely noticeable boob armour and remain it's current rating.
THAT is going to kill Riot's profits by raising it's raitings.
12tales3 votesOh, mb. I was under the impression that anything in a statue was fair game and beyond criticism for video game art.
The Mormonator1 votesThis has to be the most unique complaint I have ever read
Valaran Nara1 votesThat moment when Jugement Kayle has a hat and Riot Kayle has a swat helm.
Destínum3 votesYou can still very clearly see her face though, which you never do on any of Pantheons skins.
Star Warden1 votesKayle is not Pantheon
Destínum2 votesBut she was meant to be Pantheon in that regard before Pantheon was even in the game.
ZeldaKick1 votesI think it's probable to say that 
is horribly disfigured and we have enough disfigured men in this game as it is. Also, they have over sexualized men as well. The new 
skin is pretty hot. 
has always been a hottie. 
and are manly men that only most men could dream of being. 
/
/
have a beard/stash that only men could dream of having.
But seriously, there is 
as well, whom isnt overly sexual. I can't say much for 
though, because of her quote, "Is that a rocket in your pocket?"
A lot of the women have been subjected to sexualization. And I remember when I first started playing, it did bother me just a bit and I was happy to see characters like 
and . But it leans both ways, as most men probably want to cosplay as 
but only have the body of .
Once they start making the females seem weaker than the males is the day I'll get pissed. But right now, there are other problems that are worse (
, 
, 
, 
to name a few.) And with Kayle's new splash art, she looks dangerous as hell.
JustBoneBrook1 votesI think it's probable to say that
But seriously, there is
A lot of the women have been subjected to sexualization. And I remember when I first started playing, it did bother me just a bit and I was happy to see characters like
Once they start making the females seem weaker than the males is the day I'll get pissed. But right now, there are other problems that are worse (
no really ?
... is hot because she should be hot i can agreed she could have 5 lb more like this: http://i.imgur.com/mqfRMU1.jpg
is just hard to make i am not sure how she should be (yah she got a big ass but am a man and i got a big ass and well female usally got biger ass too so why not)
the position is well made...
Destínum6 votesBeing good looking does not mean sexualized, and "manly man" usually isn't something people consider atractive.
Also, I'm pretty sure the only reason why the Yordle girls have proper clothes is because Riot would get sued for pedophilia if they didn't.
ZeldaKick1 votesAlso, Pantheon joined League out of blood thirst. Kayle was forced to join in order to protect her people. Do you really want to compare her to Pantheon?
Baron Von Bangin1 votesTo be fair about the helmet bit, Riot has been making helmetless skins for her since Season 1.
