Jarvan is the Main Protagonist of LOL and Swain is the Main Antagonist

PapaGreg21··3 votes·1,810 views

Everyone else is a side character. Bard is comic relief.

Edit: Due to the feedback of the people on this thread, I have decided that my original theory is incorrect. Bard is not nearly as funny as I assumed.

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Fowus9 votes

Draven main character

Squidsmastah3 votes

Draven comical character Draven sensitive character Draven side character that just shows up in 1 scene Draven noble character Draven egotistical character Draven the character that no one thinks is the hero but really is

Sharjo4 votes

No Jayce is the main protagonist and Viktor is the antagonist!

Wait...no it's Leona and Diana!

No wait...maybe...it's Vi and Jinx!

No...er...hm...

Sod it. No main protagonist. There's too many protagonists for any one of them to be the main one of the whole sodding world!

PapaGreg212 votes

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No Jayce is the main protagonist and Viktor is the antagonist!

Wait...no it's Leona and Diana!

No wait...maybe...it's Vi and Jinx!

No...er...hm...

Sod it. No main protagonist. There's too many protagonists for any one of them to be the main one of the whole sodding world!

Demacia and Noxus are the two main areas with the most amount of characters and have the biggest influence on Runeterra. As the leader of the good town, J4 is the main protagonist while Swain is the main antagonist as leader of the bad town. Bard is just a magical clown that lost his legs in the war.

EvilMerodach1 votes

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Demacia and Noxus are the two main areas with the most amount of characters and have the biggest influence on Runeterra. As the leader of the good town, J4 is the main protagonist while Swain is the main antagonist as leader of the bad town. Bard is just a magical clown that lost his legs in the war.

Not up to date, but the Institute of War Retcon has the most. Followed by Ionia?

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc292/mizredavni/MapofValoran_zpsd94e0396.jpg

Demacia is just the most "politically active" (- being more involved in the affairs of others than they should be..)

Edit: For the map, I think Zac was the newest one added. So, add in Lissandra Aatrox Lucian Jinx Yasuo Velkoz Braum Gnar Azir Kalista RekSai Bard Ekko TahmKench Kindred

None from Demacia added. None from Noxus either.

Sharjo1 votes

Ionian has the most champions repping it man, with like 14 of them. Demacia and Noxus are close but not quite there. Hell even Freljord's comparable to Demacia with 12 champions. Not to mention the fact that Demacia and Noxus only affect Valoran on a regional scale; the people of Mount Targon, Freljord, Shurima, Bandle City and the Kumungu don't really give that much of a sod about them.

No League doesn't have a main protagonist or main antagonist. It has a bunch of major characters with differing perspectives and stories that tie in to each other. Thinking about the League world in terms of the story of an rpg or an anime where you see one guy or gal be the main character and saviour of the world or whatever just isn't that accurate.

Hell if League was gonna have a main character it'd probably be Nami, since her need to find the moonstone could take her anywhere in Runeterra and theoretically involve her in everything going on in the world if it's written right. Ezreal or Bard could potentially fit too depending on the circumstances.

PapaGreg211 votes

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Ionian has the most champions repping it man, with like 14 of them. Demacia and Noxus are close but not quite there. Hell even Freljord's comparable to Demacia. Not to mention the fact that Demacia and Noxus only affect Valoran on a regional scale; the people of Mount Targon, Freljord, Shurima, Bandle City and the Kumungu don't really give that much of a sod about them.

No League doesn't have a main protagonist or main antagonist. It has a bunch of major characters with differing perspectives and stories that tie in to each other. Thinking about the League world in terms of the story of a jrpg or an anime where you see one guy be the sole character and saviour of the world or whatever just isn't that accurate.

Hell if League was gonna have a main character it'd probably be Nami, since her need to find the moonstone could take her anywhere in Runeterra and theoretically involve her in everything going on in the world if it's written right. Ezreal or Bard could potentially fit too depending on the circumstances.

Ionia doesn't count because the area is spread out over too many different places and is not a uniform city like Demacia or Noxus. Syndra is miles in the air in a floating castle. I don't see that as being part of the community. Bard is way up on Brad Mt., Master Yi is on an island outside Ionia with his pet monkey, Zed's temple isn't exactly within city limits. Ionian characters are too spread out to think of them as a confined area. Plus in the battle of Brad Mountain they were all running out to fight with pitchforks and wooden ladles to fight, showing us that they don't have their sh** together like Demacia and Noxus.

Fasmodey1 votes

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Ionia doesn't count because the area is spread out over too many different places and is not a uniform city like Demacia or Noxus. Syndra is miles in the air in a floating castle. I don't see that as being part of the community. Bard is way up on Brad Mt., Master Yi is on an island outside Ionia with his pet monkey, Zed's temple isn't exactly within city limits. Ionian characters are too spread out to think of them as a confined area. Plus in the battle of Brad Mountain they were all running out to fight with pitchforks and wooden ladles to fight, showing us that they don't have their sh** together like Demacia and Noxus.

Protagonists are the main characters of story. Say to me the last story that includes Jarvan IV as a main character. There are no protagonists in LoL, there will not be.

Sharjo1 votes

You're mistaken on two points: Bard doesn't support Ionia in any special way and the battle on the Bard's Mountain home was a battle fought between a bunch of peaceful settlers and an invasion force from Noxus. They were civilians and you're using them to judge a nation's fighting worth when the likes of Irelia, Yi and Lee Sin exist, and they have artifacts like that egg that can cut mountains in half?

Also what the hell does Ionia not count towards? It's an island nation. Aside from a few rogue elements a lot of its representing champions will fight to protect it, along with its populace. It's not like there's only two samurai, one monk and one qualified archer; they've been honing their martial prowess for centuries.

Noxus and Demacia are an empire and a kingdom, and are not wholly unified. Nowhere is. Demacia's got a pretty structured government but they still do conscription and indoctrination, which wouldn't really be necessary if everyone was all about the cause and what not. In Noxus people kill each other daily. Swain became Grand General by murdering his opposition. Hardly a place that's got all its shit together; Swain's just the man able to keep things rolling for now.

And if we look at Noxus and Demacia and how they'd fair against other nations, tell me how they would beat the Shadow Isles with monsters like Mordekaiser and Hecarim roaming around? How would they even compare to the Ascended of Shurima? Just one of those guys could take on hundreds, perhaps thousands of soldiers with their god like powers. Freljord's a nation where if you can't fight you'll die no matter what, and they not only have strong warriors but brutish species like the Yetis, Ursine and Trolls that can just as easily fight back, even considering that Freljord's a divided nation.

This shit's not black and white mate; Demacia and Noxus aren't the centerpieces of Runeterra, far from it. They're two parts of a much larger world and they haven't even begun to impact history to the level that nations like Shurima and Freljord have, or individual entities like Aatrox and Bard have.

Fasmodey1 votes

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Demacia and Noxus are the two main areas with the most amount of characters and have the biggest influence on Runeterra. As the leader of the good town, J4 is the main protagonist while Swain is the main antagonist as leader of the bad town. Bard is just a magical clown that lost his legs in the war.

lol, no way. Demacia and Noxus are not main areas. Ionia and Piltover have champion numbers are pretty close, may be same with those countries. Also nobody cares but human champions when there are gods of Runeterra.

GreenLore1 votes

Piltover? That city state has 10 champs at max and only half depending on who you count Ezreal Caitlyn Vi Jayce Orianna are the only champs who are definetly piltovians and pretty much nothing else(though judging by ekkos VO,Vi was born in Zaun) Corki Heimerdinger Ziggs were originally mainly associated with piltover,but the official site now lists them as bandle city champs,meaning that they probably still live in bandle. Janna &Zilean might be seen as piltovian too,as zilean is listed as a piltover champ and janna had some connections to piltover in the old lore(though she is listed as independent on the official website),though in the end both are debateable. So in the end piltover has 5-10 champs depending on who you count and who not,however even 10 is rather average among the factions.

Star Guardían1 votes

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Demacia and Noxus are the two main areas with the most amount of characters and have the biggest influence on Runeterra. As the leader of the good town, J4 is the main protagonist while Swain is the main antagonist as leader of the bad town. Bard is just a magical clown that lost his legs in the war.

Demacia isn't good and Noxus isn't bad. Good/Bad, Protagonist/Antagonist are very irrelevant, because it depends on who's perspective you're writing from. Also, every character in league doesn't exist at the same time. Noxus and Demacia may have the greatest influence in Runeterra at one time, but we know Shurima once was a great empire and other nations may have been great once as well. Just like, how in the real world Ancient Greece was a great empire, but now they're really struggling. Or how the USSR and USA where the greatest super powers in the 60s and now they're falling behind in many areas to developing nations like China or India.

Goldsmith1 votes

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Demacia isn't good and Noxus isn't bad. Good/Bad, Protagonist/Antagonist are very irrelevant, because it depends on who's perspective you're writing from.

^ This, although I would say that Demacia needs a bit more fleshing out. We know tons about the problems and conflicts that are happening within Noxus but Demacia somehow has close to zero internal conflict.

Dextix LT1 votes

Oh it has conflict believe me. First is the fact that they are overzealous in their search for justice, the other is the royals which treat the lower classes like shit. They have their own problems.

RussoRed3 votes

its like a story with manny plots and there is no main protaganist and antagainst just the goodAshe Caitlyn MissFortune people and the badKatarina Gangplank Lissandra then the nutral Bard Sona Soraka

Dextix LT3 votes

Even with the "bad" people you ccant really call them that way. Look at lissandra for example, she got betrayed by her own sisters, that would make anyone pissed. While gankplank wasnt exactly the biggest gentelman around he kept bilgewater together and was relatively fair. While katarina is an assasin from noxus, she is just that, demacia has its own assasins too.

PapaGreg211 votes

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Even with the "bad" people you ccant really call them that way. Look at lissandra for example, she got betrayed by her own sisters, that would make anyone pissed. While gankplank wasnt exactly the biggest gentelman around he kept bilgewater together and was relatively fair. While katarina is an assasin from noxus, she is just that, demacia has its own assasins too.

You can definitely call them the bad people. Gangplank is a horrible person. Did you read the bilgewater story? Katarina murders people for money. I don't know who lissandra is.

Dextix LT2 votes

Yea i did. He did some messed up stuff, but he also did good things. In the end i respect him for unifying bilgewater, while he was a tyrant he kept the city stable. Ask yourself this, what would have happened without him being the tyrant? A full scale pirate war, it would be worse than tortuga.

Katarina murders people for money. So? Sivir does that too, garen does that too. Everyone who is in the army, a mercenary, or an assasin get money for murdering people. It doesnt make any of them bad.

PapaGreg211 votes

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Yea i did. He did some messed up stuff, but he also did good things. In the end i respect him for unifying bilgewater, while he was a tyrant he kept the city stable. Ask yourself this, what would have happened without him being the tyrant? A full scale pirate war, it would be worse than tortuga.

Katarina murders people for money. So? Sivir does that too, garen does that too. Everyone who is in the army, a mercenary, or an assasin get money for murdering people. It doesnt make any of them bad.

People in the army that are murdering other armies is not nearly the same as an assassin getting paid to take somebody out. Put it this way, would you feel more comfortable letting a Navy SEAL babysit a small child or an assassin that kills for anybody that pays his fee? Obviously, "most" people in society would consider the SEAL a good person and the assassin a bad one.

Dextix LT2 votes

It is. Katarina nad Talon are both assasins that are under the control of noxian army, they are not as independant as someone like lets say jax which can do whatever the fck they want.

They are basically spec ops troopers that make precision strikes. And they get paid for their job.

Also, soldiers kill far more people on the field that assasins ever do.

Also, i would be confortable with both of these choises. Navy seal will babysit my child, but if he is odered by higher ups to abandon the mission or kill the child he will do it. Assasin will babysit my child and i will pay him for it , then if he is honnorable he wont abandon the mission, if he isnt, then he will do whatever if someone pays him more.

Both of these have the risk of hurting me and disobeying their mission paramaters. Doesnt make any of them good or bad.

Havenscythe1 votes

Marines also murder people for money, would you call them bad people? Katarina serves her nation, Noxus.

TurquoiseYoshi2 votes

GP killed people, and so did MF. And so did Graves, and so did TF. And so did Azir and so did Jarvan and so did Ahri. Every champion except Bard (and Lee and Sona and a couple others) kills a decent number of people.

You're probably gonna try to tell me that ninjas are bad people, too, because they kill people.

Lissandra is a champion.

PapaGreg211 votes

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GP killed people, and so did MF. And so did Graves, and so did TF. And so did Azir and so did Jarvan and so did Ahri. Every champion except Bard (and Lee and Sona and a couple others) kills a decent number of people.

You're probably gonna try to tell me that ninjas are bad people, too, because they kill people.

Lissandra is a champion.

I just looked up Lissandra. You are right, she is a champion.

TurquoiseYoshi1 votes

I mean, I know she's uncommon to see nowadays, but she really isn't THAT rare that you literally would have never seen her in game, or heard of her on here, or saw her in the store.

EvilMerodach2 votes

Always seen Kayle as more of a main character.

Demacia/Noxus aren't everything to the League.

Justice is.

MoonStar1 votes

Teemo

are you sure?

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BattleOxe2 votes

Yep, teemo is main antagonist

AlphaKappaPika1 votes

j4 was murdered by leblanc tho.

Ralanr1 votes

There are loads of main characters with different stories clashing. It's not one story, but a world of stories that sometimes intermingle and sometimes never cross each other.

At least that's how I see it.

Havenscythe1 votes

The only real "Bad Guys" are the and the Void. The **Void wishes to consume and destroy Valoran as a whole. Everyone else besides the Void **are just different people with different reasons and views for what they do (with the acceptation of champions from the shadow isles).

TurquoiseYoshi1 votes

Except maybe they just want their race to thrive over all others, like everyone does.

Lord Boltrix1 votes

Mordekaiser You doubt the importance of Brazil? He is essentially leading the Shadow Isles, he has his own successful band, he gets the girl ( Sona ) with the biggest rack sweetest personality, he is numero uno and everyone knows it, and in LCS he is either banned or he wins.

Huehuehue.

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