"Love is as real as a force as gravity - you should try it sometimes" - Aurelion Sol

SaltyToplaneGoat··56 votes·7,964 views

Just why does AurelionSol give of the feel like he really knows what he is talking about? Could it be... that he really has been in love before?

And that would explain something in his backstory that never made much sense for me: how did the Targonians trick a comisc, star-creating dragon? In the version we have, they made a fancy crown and Sol, the vain fuck that he is, immedeatly decides "I'm gonna rock that look", put it on and is suddenly enslaved.

However, where did the Targonians get the knownledge of how to bind him? And why did he accept the crown even if the primitive and "crude" magic as he calls it would have been detectable? That would literally go against all logic... unless, the great remover of all logic and rationality was involved: love.

Let's just assume that Aurelion Sol fell in love with a Targonian, who finally either betrayed him or was forced to betray him in the end. Now the story makes a lot more sense, right? He didn't just put on the crown out of vanity, he put it on because he truly trusted the person or being that he was in love with. However, he'd rather look like a vain moron than to be reminded of this betrayal, so instead we have the version we all know as a main-lore that leaves out details such as this.

And now: even more speculation: Who was the targonian entity that Sol was in love with? Pantheon surely not, the Protector seems also unlikely, and apart from that we only know of the aspect of the sun and the aspect of the moon. If he had a relation to one of those he'd surely have a specific taunt for Leona or Diana, so that is also unlikely. He has taunts for them, but none that would suggest something like that.

However, what if we were talking about a "fallen" Targonian here? Like, a cosmic entity that was "banished" in some way after it had been forced to betray Aurelion or opposed the plan to enslave him?

Thinking about it we only have one "fallen star" in our mass of champions, or at least someone who might fit the description: Soraka

He even has a taunt for her: "Twinkle, twinkle, little star, do you wonder what you are?", implying that he knows something about her that she does not. But how would Soraka not know about something as once having dated a gigantic space dragon? Well, as I see it a memory-loss is not very unlikely when she was really "banished" as a targonian aspect and "downgraded" from a cosmic entity into whatever she is know. That would also explain why Soraka had a magical "leash" that would prevent her from using her magic to harm others: the moment she used the full extend of her powers to get rid of Warwick's men she got her goat hooves... (I hope that still is the canon version of the lore). It would make sense if she was banished and sealed, mostly because she poses a danger to the other targonians.

On another note I am kind of fascinated that a gigantic entity like Aurelion Sol can even flal in love. I wonder what's his type when it comes to partners tho, apart from "don't be a targonian"... or would he even look at a being as long as it was less than a cosmic god? All very interesting questions ^^

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Sharjo22 votes

As opposed to a Targonian, perhaps it could've been one of the other immensely powerful celestial entities that were born when the universe began that Aurelion Sol loved?

Also I'm more inclined to believe the love Aurelion Sol feels is for his works and the stars themselves than anything else. He's a bit of a workaholic after all.

SaltyToplaneGoat2 votes

Even when it is a given that he feels pride and love for his creations, I doubt that Aurelion was speaking of THAT kind of love here.

There are many variations of love, depending on the culture you move in some are more pronounced than others. HOWEVER, love as a force, as a raw strenght and natural power, that is usually a metaphor reserved for the burning flames of romantic passion.

As a matter to the "who?"... there is a number of transcental beings in this universe that we know of, yet most of them are too "detached" to feel love I'd say. The Kindred, Bard, or even Tham Kench are not exactly beings one would even think they'd be able to love.

Sharjo14 votes

HOWEVER, love as a force, as a raw strenght and natural power, that is usually a metaphor reserved for the burning flames of romantic passion.

Yeah usually, but not always. The sense of loss that Aurelion Sol feels when a star dies is so profound that we as mere mortals could never even fathom it. It's the kind of feeling that'd probably instantly just send people slinking in to clinical depression based on how its been described. The stars are a part of Aurelion Sol, and the love one feels for their creations, or perhaps their children, can exceed any kind of romantic love depending on who we're talking about. I'm very willing to believe that Aurelion Sol's love of his stars far exceeds the love he would feel for anything else, as the stars are the thing that literally give his life purpose and meaning.

Also among the transcendental beings that are on Aurelion Sol's level, we've only seen Aurelion Sol. Kindred and Bard operate in different ways and we have yet to see other beings that Aurelion Sol shared the early cosmos with. Other beings that were responsible for the other fundamental forces of the universe are things that do exist, but have yet to be explored, and what the Star Forger's relationship with them beyond Targon forcing him to fight some of them hasn't been explored either.

I'm far more inclined to believe that some of those beings would be more likely candidates for Aurelion Sol's affections than a being of Targon, especially considering that Aurelion Sol's interactions with Targon were limited before being enslaved. They weren't as much of the great celestial question marks they are now back when they met Aurelion Sol, it took them time to get there if memory serves, and I don't think the great Star Forger would look to beings of that kind of existence with anything other than his initial curiosity.

dragon1xx4 votes

So basically, losing a star=losing a kid.

Sharjo5 votes

Not the worst analogy there.

Arakadia1 votes

So Bard X Sol is cannon?

Sharjo2 votes

No. And it's not canon either.

We don't know Bard's origins so it's not easy to link him in to the birth of the universe as we can with Aurelion Sol. Bard might have only come to be in recent times relative to the universe's age.

nos plays yasuo1 votes

shh let me ship kindred KindredSoraka

Elikain2 votes

######Arbuz Budesh [slayer-jinx-wink]

nos plays yasuo1 votes

you act like i havent already seen that ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) [slayer-jinx-wink]

Meep Man1 votes

What are you talking about?

[slayer-jinx-wink]

Papa Andrei3 votes

Chiming intensifies

Wind Whistler1 votes

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Also I'm more inclined to believe the love Aurelion Sol feels is for his works and the stars themselves than anything else. He's a bit of a workaholic after all.

That's exactly it. It's clear that his passion lies within stars, although that's not to say that he wasn't once interested in humans and other intelligent life. What the Targonians did to him most likely made him grow to be a crueler space dragon.

Sharjo2 votes

Also potentially more possessive of his stars considering how rough Targon's been with them.

Wind Whistler1 votes

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Also potentially more possessive of his stars considering how rough Targon's been with them.

Yeah! That too. Poor Aurelion Sol : (

Avios111 votes

proceeds to jump on a raft from the oncoming ship

With all reality though, I did enjoy this post, I'm sort of a softie when it comes to the more sensitive things in life.

Anyways, nice post man/woman/poro, you did well ^.^

SaltyToplaneGoat4 votes

To be honest I am slightly surprised that this is not a common ship yet. Star Forger and Starchild, I thought that was something that would come naturally...

TyrekGoldenspear9 votes

Perhaps becuase the term Starchild has connotations of Soraka being Sol's niece/granddaughter, seeing as her title implies she came from the stars that Aurelion created.

SaltyToplaneGoat11 votes

To be honest Sol would make a terrible father, so I can see why no one put him into a family-ship.

"Child be quiet, how can you be so loud when you are that insiginificant when compared to the vastness of the universe?"

"Terrible grades? Even the dimmest star I ever made is brighter than you I guess..."

"What? I didn't neglect them! I was only gone for a year or so, barely a time worth noticing..."

At least that's how I imagine it.

TyrekGoldenspear4 votes

Oh definitely not. Sol cannot be the father of anything living.

This is why he makes stars and treats them like children.

Soraka in her current state is a little too... mortal for Aurelion now. I doubt he would even recognize her at this point.

This brings another question to mind. If Soraka is a fallen Celestial Being, then what happens when she dies in her current state?

SaltyToplaneGoat3 votes

Well of course now she's not desirable, but in the past...?

Well, given that there is the possibility that she's still a "star"... you know what happens when a star dies? Super-Nova with potential to creating a black hole. Assuming that she is in a weakened state I doubt there is enough energy to create a mass anomaly, however, the explosion might be strong enough to immedeatly vaporize a kingdom or two.

TyrekGoldenspear2 votes

Woah now, who said Soraka was literally a star? o_0

That would just make any ship between Sol and Soraka weird because that would imply Sol made her.

Also the image of an exploding Soraka does not sit well with me lol.

If she was a celestial like one of her skins suggest, then maybe upon death she has a chance to reclaim her position from the beings that took away her power to begin with. Maybe when they see how much she has worked to right the wrongs she committed they would give her position back.

SaltyToplaneGoat2 votes

Ya can never know with weird beings from outer space. Leona is literally overflowing with sun-power that torches everything around her, and she's only the HOST for that power. Now imagine if such a being would actually walk the earth, even when in weakened form...

That might explain Soraka's personality. She might be (subconsciously) aware that all her surroundings, all the life around her, is very, very fragile, and that within the blink of an eye it all could be wiped out. And so she views it as so precious that she tries to protect it, even if it would mean exhausting or even harming herself.

TyrekGoldenspear3 votes

Hmm. You have a point there.

Legacy of Xion4 votes

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Well of course now she's not desirable, but in the past...?

Well, given that there is the possibility that she's still a "star"... you know what happens when a star dies? Super-Nova with potential to creating a black hole. Assuming that she is in a weakened state I doubt there is enough energy to create a mass anomaly, however, the explosion might be strong enough to immedeatly vaporize a kingdom or two.

Let's throw Soraka at the Shadow Isles and kill her.

All our Black Mist problems are solved.

Ariel the Cruel4 votes

Yes, we vaporize the kingdom that vaporized itself once already and kill all the dead people. (>_>)

TyrekGoldenspear2 votes

When somebody called The Cruel thinks your descructive plan is a bad idea you know you messed up somewhere lol.

Legacy of Xion1 votes

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Yes, we vaporize the kingdom that vaporized itself once already and kill all the dead people. (>_>)

...what?

Ariel the Cruel2 votes

The shadow isles destroyed itself before. And the defining characteristic of it's inhabitants (now) is being dead.

Therefore I question the effectiveness of destroying it and killing the inhabitants.

Glory ln Death2 votes

It's obvious, isn't it? Aurelion Sol and Hecarim got together and Soraka was their child!

TyrekGoldenspear7 votes

...

Fanfic writing urges rising.

The only thing I want to point out is that Soraka is Ionian. Still...

What an interesting development that would be.

SaltyToplaneGoat3 votes

I know, the impulse is there (I'm a writer myself after all)

Well, for a banished cosmic entity it would be pretty much irrelevant where in the world they end up with. Also, note that Ionia is maybe the furthest away you could get from Mt. Targon. A fitting place to send someone into exile, don't you think? ^^

TyrekGoldenspear2 votes

From what I remember from the lore Targon is like in the dead center of Valoran, and Ionia is its own group of islands just off the east side. So for a celestial that is banished and forced to walk it would be quite a trip.

Lets not forget that Soraka is all about healing and life. We dont have a celestial being right now that actually gives life. Most of them either create specific things, embody certain characteristics or jist represent death or balance

Perhapa she was thr celestial being of life?

SaltyToplaneGoat4 votes

Indeed, most of the aspects seem rather destructive, especially Pantheon. But on the other hand we also got Taric who literally crosses a battlefield for a single flower. So her having once held that position is not very unlikely.

Stars Shaper5 votes

Aurelion Sol was fascinated by how beings like many others he met during his star forging had tapped into the cosmic realm. He spent a lot of time, probably ages with them and made them their pupils so they had a small spark of what Aurelion Sol magic is and with that knowledge they could craft the crown (Notice that Taric shapes starlight into gems).

While he is well aware of his position in the cosmos and a proud being he also is capable of incredible love. He surely shows that a lot towards his stars but this feelings are also passed to what originates from stars themselves.

The fact that Targonians could be so arrogant to make him a servant and even killing stars when he disobeys turned them on his bad side which (as everything concerning him) also is on a cosmic level.

THE RlVER KlNG5 votes

I've always held that Sol and Ao Shin were a couple, but were separated somehow, most likely when Sol was enslaved by Targon.

Or perhaps this scenario was the reason, although I hope not. item 3151 http://i.imgur.com/Yn361nK.jpg

Captain Aishi4 votes

AurelionSol Stars are wonder and love ignited

there are a lot of stars... he is a very loving individual!

DragonShea1 votes

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AurelionSol Stars are wonder and love ignited

there are a lot of stars... he is a very loving individual!

Towards stars yeah. he just sees morals as a byproduct of stars near a habitable planet.

Captain Aishi2 votes

AurelionSol "I made the stars... but you inspire me to make more."

there's some love right there :P

and also his "All beings are made of the same stardust." shows that he probably sees everything in existence under the same light (his of course :P)

JackMcSnipeyz3 votes

Or maybe he's talking about love as in the things he love to do? Sounds pretty obvious, sol always talks about creating and the joy and passion he has for making new things - thats his love, his work. Why is he saying that in such a sarcatic tone? Because the people captured him and denied him doing the things he loves, creating, expending.

Sticking in romantic sub plot is much less creative and interesting than seeing a GOD being forced to stop doing the things he loves. I mean, come on - we're talking about a space dragon who created the universe, i think giving him some romeo and juliet story isnt doing justice to him.

RiotFauxSchizzle7 votes

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Or maybe he's talking about love as in the things he love to do? Sounds pretty obvious, sol always talks about creating and the joy and passion he has for making new things - thats his love, his work. Why is he saying that in such a sarcatic tone? Because the people captured him and denied him doing the things he loves, creating, expending.

Sticking in romantic sub plot is much less creative and interesting than seeing a GOD being forced to stop doing the things he loves. I mean, come on - we're talking about a space dragon who created the universe, i think giving him some romeo and juliet story isnt doing justice to him.

Just to play devil's advocate, there are other kinds of love stories that are not Romeo and Juliet.

Warlord Dienekes1 votes

That's right, and unlike Romeo and Juliet, a few love stories don't suck.

Shakespeare's worst play. I have no idea how that thing became so popular. The only 2 interesting characters die in the first act.

FIyingPanda1 votes

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That's right, and unlike Romeo and Juliet, a few love stories don't suck.

Shakespeare's worst play. I have no idea how that thing became so popular. The only 2 interesting characters die in the first act.

Uh.... well. You gotta remember. Romeo and Juliet isn't a love story. The two lovers are impulsive infatuated teenagers who know each other for a week and get oodles of people killed in the process. THAT'S the point of Romeo and Juliet: the pointlessness and ultimately self destructiveness of blood feuds as well as the recklessness of youths. This was of course part of Shakespeare's (and all of England's) fascination with the previous century, which was dominated and disrupted by the War of the Roses, which was a dynastic feud between two houses (also the inspiration for Game of Thrones) that was effectively a century long civil war. That's why most of Shakespeare's history plays are about The War of the Roses (Henry V, Richard II etc etc). The lovers are just the plot device around which the blood feud can play out as well as serving as the moral lesson at the end.

Worth reading again maybe. Definitely read about the War of the Roses. It's a bit obscurant but it's really really fascinating. I recommend "Bosworth Field and the War of the Roses" by A.L. Rowse. It's a bit dense but he goes SUPER in depth and it's a fascinating and bloody tale of power grabs and murderous revenge.

Warlord Dienekes1 votes

Yes, I've read this modernist interpretation before. And while it makes the story less idiotic, unfortunately it doesn't hold water. While the original response from Friar Lawrence to Romeo is basically "Oh, really, you're in love? Cuz last week you were on about Rosaline. Dumb ass." That's really the only support for the theory. In fact the Lawrence character later gives a speech about how Juliet's love is true when she starts saying how she can't live without Romeo.

That and the concept of love at first sight is frequently used in Shakespeare's works. The Tempest, Merchant of Venice, The Winter's Tale all mention love at first sight for their protagonists. Then there's Midsummer Night's Dream which does play around with the concept of love at first sight, with one of the girls being in love with someone who hates her. Only for faeries with magic roofie-juice to make everyone happy with the previously established love interests, despite two of them having nothing in common and there is no development for their romance. The romance is portrayed straight as soon as the roofied individual sees the new target of their romances for the first time.

As an aside, who doesn't know what the War of the Roses is? Ignoring all the significance in English history. It's basically what most of Shakespeare's historical plays are about.

In any case, mate, I've read Rome and Jules twice from school, once when I decided I wanted to read all of Shakespeare's plays in order, and was in the bloody play when I was in high school. I've read the damn thing enough times. And I can say, if I never have to read that piece of crap again, I'll die a happy man. I would rather read the scraps of Timon of Athens again, with all the characters that don't matter and plots that go nowhere. Worse than that, I'd rather read the entirety of Terry Goodkind's Sword of Truth series, with all the statues that stop communism, naked armies, and chickens that are not chickens. I'd go through all that crap, rather than crack open Romeo and Juliet again.

Wind Whistler1 votes

... This is fucking ridiculous. Aurelion Sol's taunt towards Soraka is obviously him taunting her because of her life choices. Aka, she's not really a celestial anymore since she lost that power when trying to defend Warwick and stuff. Do you really think a giant space dragon dozens of times bigger than a star would give a shit about love? When he says "Love is as real a force as gravity. Try it once in a while.", which isn't even what you said he says in the title of this thread, he means that it's not very important, as his only passion is creating stars.

RiotFauxSchizzle8 votes

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... This is fucking ridiculous. Aurelion Sol's taunt towards Soraka is obviously him taunting her because of her life choices. Aka, she's not really a celestial anymore since she lost that power when trying to defend Warwick and stuff. Do you really think a giant space dragon dozens of times bigger than a star would give a shit about love? When he says "Love is as real a force as gravity. Try it once in a while.", which isn't even what you said he says in the title of this thread, he means that it's not very important, as his only passion is creating stars.

I wouldn't dismiss the op that much. This is one of Aurelion Sol's most important lines, IMO. There's definitely some fun digging to be done here, and some theories that are off the mark for sure. Rengar? Alistar? Nah.

As a cosmic entity, Aurelion Sol has experienced love, and not just for his stars.

Wind Whistler2 votes

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I wouldn't dismiss the op that much. This is one of Aurelion Sol's most important lines, IMO. There's definitely some fun digging to be done here, and some theories that are off the mark for sure. Rengar? Alistar? Nah.

As a cosmic entity, Aurelion Sol has experienced love, and not just for his stars.

Even though he'd be like, several billion times their size? I'm not exaggerating, btw. He's MASSIVE.

Surr20plz2 votes

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Even though he'd be like, several billion times their size? I'm not exaggerating, btw. He's MASSIVE.

child detected.

Star Guardían2 votes

Aurelion Sol can change his size at will. Besides, what's him being a giant dragon got to do with love? Also I think the people who wrote the lore in the first place, of whom I believe FauxSchizzle was one of, have a greater understanding of what Aurelion Sol's quote means than you.

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