Who the F**k cares if Xayah lost a cussing quote?

ModAcademy Kayn·Apr 9, 2017·70 votes·5,573 views

I don't even know if it's a legit thing if she lost the quote or not, considering how no one is listing their sources, but who cares? It's not important to her character like it is to Kled, she has a million other lines to show her edgy teenager side. Honestly, it's not that big of a deal.

Edit: I FOUND A SOURCE :D

And jesus christ, I don't like them in particular, but I really doubt this is an SJW thing. If it was, than why isn't Kled's entire character banned? I haven't seen a single post anywhere talking about Xayah's one/two lines, and suddenly everyone's saying it's their fault.

133 Comments

SharjoApr 9, 201740 votes

Silly people who think that swearing is cool and are all up in arms about censorship?

I dunno. It's a stupid thing really.

MistroTTCApr 9, 201714 votes

Its like the tracer butt pose incident, yeah it might not of been a needed change, but people are taking it way too seriously.

SharjoApr 9, 201718 votes

People don't care about most things, but when things go away it's seemingly an attack on what they're allowed to like, made by some sinister, evil censorship overlords.

Blegh. People are irrrational as fuck.

BLACK REALM GODApr 9, 20177 votes

Graves knows

Papa AndreiApr 9, 20179 votes

That was a legality issue :P not an opinion issue.

BLACK REALM GODApr 9, 20172 votes

but isnt the idea of law (other than scientific laws) just an overwhelming opinion?

SharjoApr 9, 20176 votes

An opinion that keeps human society from descending in to chaos. I mean fuck, even if all the rules and laws we had now were abolished people would just make new ones. Humans need structure to function.

AnidanApr 9, 20173 votes

Do you know how hard it is for me to not make reference to Thomas Hobbes or John Locke right now? Do you? >.<

BLACK REALM GODApr 9, 20172 votes

69?

Witch of BabylonApr 9, 20172 votes

What was the cussing quote?

BakedLotionApr 9, 20176 votes

Its more about the fact that they're siding with the sensitive and anti cuss people. Not the actual quote itself.

Watch them remove the "damn" line because jesus people were offended.

Well you know what? Im offended by her name having an X. Can we remove that too?

Can I ask you why people feel the need to put f**ck instead of fuck when people clearly know hes saying fuck?

If people like you stopped treating swears like they ruin your lives, it wouldnt even be a problem. Its just religious people that get triggered by cursing.

SharjoApr 9, 201710 votes

I don't recall ever asking for the word to be censored, especially considering I swear prolifically, I just understand that some folks aren't so comfortable with mature words in certain settings.

I also understand that some people really just don't wanna be told what they can and can't do and easily lash out.

TuffnarApr 9, 201711 votes

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Silly people who think that swearing is cool and are all up in arms about censorship?

I dunno. It's a stupid thing really.

Swearing isnt about being cool its about putting more emotion into your words to help listeners understand how you feel about a certain subject/topic ect.

SharjoApr 9, 201726 votes

One could argue that there are more elloquent and less crass ways of doing that though.

TyrekGoldenspearApr 9, 201710 votes

Pretty much my philosophy on swearing. It's why I don't.

SharjoApr 9, 20177 votes

I swear a lot in person, but that's just what I'm used to and the environments I'm in. Here I do swear sometimes, but I prefer terms like sod and bloody since they're not as rough as true swears. They carry the same kind of weight if you're british so it works.

TyrekGoldenspearApr 9, 20174 votes

They carry the same kind of weight if you're british so it works.

Well now I have to read all your posts in a British Accent. :P

SharjoApr 9, 20176 votes

That would work if I wasn't the least british sounding brit in the history of britdom!

SexualsaurusApr 9, 20171 votes

There are moments I wish I could sound less british, the negatives of having a Scottish accent is that sometimes you seem like a barbarian to folk :(

SharjoApr 9, 20174 votes

Scottish is a wonderful accent! Don't let some sods put you down for it!

SexualsaurusApr 9, 20171 votes

Thanks :)

It still sucks though that I'll never be able to say "Purple Burglar Alarm."

Glory ln DeathApr 10, 20171 votes

Why not?

SexualsaurusApr 10, 20172 votes

Its one of the weaknesses with having a Scottish accent, exhibit A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=us4_Wllv65w

ElipoApr 10, 20171 votes

Sounds like a strategy needed by those who lack vocabulary.

TuffnarApr 11, 20171 votes

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Sounds like a strategy needed by those who lack vocabulary.

Not needed, and you're missing the point of the post, putting more emotion into your words doesn't mean you can't find a different word, besides, no matter how big the word is, they mean the same thing essentially, it all depends on how you want to convey how you feel about the topic.

LOSINGISMYPRIDEApr 10, 20172 votes

swearing in real life and swearing in a movie or swearing from a character are really different think since theyre not a reality but a character made . If you want your character to be a scumbag well make it like that so it like more appealing to certain group . Dont put a false image of no one is swearing because everyone is swearing and its not because it is cool but its too express emotion and a better word for describe it is anarchy in your thought .

ˉˉˉˉˉˉApr 9, 201726 votes

I kinda give a fuck cause this is happening to a lot of games, where butthurt white knight/SJW's get offended at minor things.

Let me enjoy my fucking game as if it is not bad already (though addictive).

MuffledGarbageApr 9, 20171 votes

I think White knights are kinda better than SJW's cause White Knights describes the mafia/godfather/ lex luthor types of people who look friendly and good to the public while in reality they do evil things behind the scenes.

SJW's just want everyone who isn't them to either become them or get launched into a black hole...

ˉˉˉˉˉˉApr 9, 20179 votes

Dude. You have no idea what a white knight in SJW terms is.

MuffledGarbageApr 9, 20171 votes

I'm talking about the mafia white knight types. your bending the term to include SJW types.

Considering that Lex luthor and the Godfather are some of my favorite media characters, I'd rather not have you associate them to Trigglypuffs, Fistie splinters, etc.

INoble KnightIApr 9, 20172 votes

Lol Fistie Splinters

AnidanApr 9, 20173 votes

What a name. Name of champions right there.

Jeanne fan clubApr 9, 20172 votes

I don't really think this was something as nefarious as you draw it out to be, I kind of think it was just about Riot not thinking that quote fit her personality.

ULTRAF0RCEApr 9, 20177 votes

It's removed for pure practicality having an uncensored curse means that they would need to resubmit the game to the ESRB as it was not rated for strong language it's a lot cheaper and quicker to just not have someone curse at minions.

ModAcademy KaynApr 9, 20172 votes

How on earth is this an SJW thing? There's actual proof of it being one when it came to the whole Tracer's Ass debacle, but I haven't seen a single source containing the whole missing line thing.

Legacy HydralphaApr 9, 20174 votes

https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/_f2GnVKmPN7b2aKkhD9m2omdInI=/1000x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/6297131/Screen_Shot_2016-04-06_at_9.30.27_AM.0.png

Let's not forget what happened here...

ˉˉˉˉˉˉApr 9, 20171 votes

That's what I meant with "other games."

AnidanApr 9, 20177 votes

If it's any consolation, that doesn't really fit her character anyway, whereas nobody complains about Widowmaker having purposely provocative poses because it is in line with her character.

That may have been fueled by SJWs, but at least they aimed at something that legitimately didn't fit for once, even if by accident.

AtanchanApr 10, 20171 votes

It was literally just one guy pointing out it didn't really fit her character.

The entire reason there was drama in the first place is because people like the original commentator chased after some fictitious bogeyman that they were convinced was out the stab all the games with a knife, creating an issue that didn't exist.

It's like when the devs of Skullgirls decided to remove some pantyshots through their own volition and this type of people had to double-check their closet.

AnidanApr 11, 20171 votes

I dunno, man. People that constantly witch hunt for SJWs and shout at anything even remotely calling for a change of something seem like they're calling for some bogeyman just as much as the SJWs themselves that instigate some of these changes.

On one hand, you have the people trying to create safe spaces that aren't necessary; on the other hand, you have people going out of their way to demonize that other extreme except they get a traditionalist moral high ground to attempt to stand on. After a while both sides seem just as fanatical and crazy. The real kicker is that this stupid thing has started to bleed over into the real world and is starting to drag down things that could actually bring about meaningful change, and both sides are just as guilty of that as the other.

AtanchanApr 11, 20171 votes

I mean, this perspective is kinda bogeyman chasing, too. "Creating safe spaces that aren't necessary" doesn't seem ... remotely comparable to demonizing people for being inclusive, especially since I don't see any drawback at all to it. I think you're trying to say "creating safe spaces where they don't belong" but ... where exactly don't they belong? KKK meetings? Even then, even though those don't remotely fit what you'd typically think of when you hear "safe space," they actually are - just safe spaces where racist, ultra-conservative lunatics can spout off their bigotry freely and not have to deal with the people they hate so fiercely.

I guess that is the type of safe space that isn't necessary in a negative way, but that's like, the exact opposite of those ess-jay-double-u bogeymen.

Like, I know there are people that are like the bogeyman exist, but there's like, fifty of them, tops? Out of a population of 7 billion? You never see these guys actually talk about these extremists, and in fact probably don't even actually know they exist - they just use the term to dismiss anything they don't agree with. Somewhat relatedly, I recall hearing recently that "political correctness" was similarly used to dismiss criticism, especially criticism that sounded liberal, only for it to be adopted as an actual term. And I can't help feel like anyone who calls themselves a social justice warrior got the term the very same way.

Turns out when you give imaginary demons so much attention, they don't stay imaginary for very long.

AnidanApr 11, 20171 votes

You're right, I kinda worded that poorly. When I said safe space, I was referring to people who essentially ask for refuge for the sensitive, but taken to an extreme, in a manner of speaking--removing anything that could be seen as offensive. That's what a lot of those anti-SJWs tend to bring up. That was my poor wording, you're right there, I'm sorry.

Seems like a lot of those people that actually say something about SJWs tend to bring up the authoritarian types that would attempt to force political correctness down everyone's throat and so there's become a sort of counter-movement that revolves around spiting political correctness specifically to get at those who would mean to propagate it.

It seems both sides have created their bogeymen, and they're fighting against that perceived evil and letting it bleed over in ways that isn't necessary. I've heard people say "Fuck feminism!" when they really meant the crazy radicals under the purview, but as a result now anything related to the term is subject to unjust attack by people who mean to aim for the more radical people among that much larger population, and this can do a lot to damage efforts to make meaningful change on both sides of the issues presented. That's just one prominent example, I'm sure you know of more.

AtanchanApr 11, 20172 votes

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Seems like a lot of those people that actually say something about SJWs tend to bring up the authoritarian types that would attempt to force political correctness down everyone's throat and so there's become a sort of counter-movement that revolves around spiting political correctness specifically to get at those who would mean to propagate it.

That's when they aren't reaching for the bottom of the barrel ( if they even bother to do that - half the time they just seem to make this shit up ) to find one of the handful of people who actually claims something along the lines of "end all white men" ... without even looking at the context, which in all likelihood will reveal that it's dark humor, complete sarcasm, or flat-out someone trying to troll people like them.

I'm not even sure if the other side even has a bogeyman. Maybe they do, but spending time on League without muting everyone in-game points towards otherwise, and looking at the other online games and their communities only make it more and more obvious that there really are just that many shitty people. And that's before you factor in the people who are confident enough to show that side of them without their face obscured behind anonymity. I guess it's likely that there is a not insignificant amount of bogeymanism in stuff like "the partiarchy," but as much as it's mocked, there is quite a bit of truth in it if you care to take a look.

( although I really doubt most people would argue against our society being patriarchal or even heavily so if not for that anti-feminism and such, soooooooo )

DrCyanideApr 9, 201713 votes

You mean how she went from that to a pose that better fit her character (specifically her pilot background), which was the entire point of why Blizzard made the change?

https://youtu.be/ZmLkVtqjf1A

Dextix LTApr 10, 20172 votes

But failed to communicate it properly SPECTACULARY.

SH AzykanApr 10, 20172 votes

because it gave them free publicity?

Mecha MaIphiteApr 10, 20174 votes

Not sure how removing two cringey lines is going to affect gameplay at all.

I haven't seen a single butthurt post about champs swearing, but I've seen tons ignore people conplaining when it was removed. Seems like they're the ones getting triggered for no reason.

TyrekGoldenspearApr 9, 201715 votes

I agree. However many people do care. The most comon argument is that it is censorship and non-progressive to remove a cuss quote if kids do it all the time.

Almost forgot: Also people who don't want the cuss quotes are called thin skinned and to that there are worse things allowed in League than swears.

ModAcademy KaynApr 9, 20178 votes

Except that it's likely not even about Censorship. With Kled existing, that should be obvious. If anything, it was taken out because it didn't fit her character, or was simply a bad line in general.

Z3braApr 10, 20172 votes

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I agree. However many people do care. The most comon argument is that it is censorship and non-progressive to remove a cuss quote if kids do it all the time.

Almost forgot: Also people who don't want the cuss quotes are called thin skinned and to that there are worse things allowed in League than swears.

The request that probably triggered this just asked that the profanity filter would remove those lines (you know, optional). You can block chat, everything to have the plain game as friendly/vanilla as you want it, but you can't take out "shit!" in a champion's lines for their kids or whatever.

Riot responds by completely removing the lines, which was NOT the request.

I'll assume it's because they didn't really consider profanity when setting up the new system/writing the new lines but agree with the point. On the flip side, they probably found it is not simple/feasible to prioritize a new client addition that allows the request. Do they fix existing bugs and add item sets, or put that aside to do they do this very tiny thing?

Even then, this is iffy, because anyone old enough to understand league can just change the settings back to its profane glory. Anyone not old enough to understand league whose parents/siblings need the filter on for profanity reasons (IE: exposure by proximity) could just use headphones. Seriously, earbuds can be as cheap as $2.