Warring Kingdom Vi?

CarameI Frappe··4 votes·10,868 views

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Not that I hate it; in fact the in-game model and the splash art looks awesome. However, I do have to ask ... why Vi ? The theme doesn't exactly suit her, and even though skins don't have to make sense or match entirely ... I can at least see why Garen and Azir share the theme (loyalty to their country, being a ruler of a country, ect.) yet Vi's just an enforcer, the one who beats up criminals on the streets.

I think champions like Cassiopeia, MonkeyKing, Irelia, ect. would of suited the theme more. Just my 2 cents, not mad about the result and i'll likely purchase the cool skin anyhow because Vi's a cool champion in my book.

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Big Lincoln11 votes

Jade Dragon Vi is a really popular fan-made skin

riot's just giving the people what they want

CarameI Frappe3 votes

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Jade Dragon Vi is a really popular fan-made skin

riot's just giving the people what they want

Oh, I remember something about that particular submission. Was this it?

http://images-cdn.9gag.com/photo/aj0YV7q_700b.jpg

Big Lincoln2 votes

i think so

i would have preferred a Viktor or Swain skin but I guess I can wait another year

CarameI Frappe1 votes

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i think so

i would have preferred a Viktor or Swain skin but I guess I can wait another year

Cassiopeia "I've been waiting for mine since 4 years ago ... can't hurt to .. wait longer I guess."


2 minutes later

http://i.imgur.com/wqeUv6n.jpg

GreenLore1 votes

Swain is on the VGU-list,so he won't get skins until then.

Big Lincoln3 votes

they said the same thing for Pantheon and Evelynn

Pantheon has gotten 2 skins since then

GreenLore1 votes

They said this about Pantheon only shortly before the baker skin(which was his last skin) was released. And in Eves case they said that her safecrackr skin was a great exception because of how simple it was.

Big Lincoln1 votes

They said it around the time Dragonslayer panth hit the PBE

GreenLore1 votes

This here is from Ironstylus talking about Pantheons eventual VGU roughly 2 years ago(after the dragonslayer skin was already out) http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/de/c/skin-champion-concepts/BBN4ztu0-pantheon-visual-update

He says that while they do want to update him at a certain point of time,they don't plan on doing it anytime soon,which basically means that while they plan to update him,he wasn't even on the VGU-list.

Haxrs1 votes

Just to point something out , i would like her fingertips to be a little more pointy like a dragon paw it would look 100 times cooler , for me at least!!!

Çhåryzård5 votes

AurelionSol item 3070

He would be perfect with a lunar revel skin

Stars Shaper2 votes

Gotta wait 2024 for the year of the dragon.

Çhåryzård1 votes

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Gotta wait 2024 for the year of the dragon.

[zombie-nunu-bummed]

Valor Bot2 votes

It's year of the rooster and Vi gets another skin

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CarameI Frappe1 votes

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It's year of the rooster and Vi gets another skin

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About that ... Quinn is actually getting a skin too

GreenLore1 votes

Well quinn actually gets a heartseeker skin...

Not to mention that Azir is getting a warring kingdoms skin.

ParappaTheKappa2 votes

So..., anyone have any thoughts as to who she's based on? As well as Azir and Garen?

My guesses are: Vi - Guan Yinping (Daughter of Guan Yu) Garen - Guan Ping or Guan Xing (Sons of Guan Yu) Azir - Liu Bei or even Liu Shan

Jaghatai1 votes

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So..., anyone have any thoughts as to who she's based on? As well as Azir and Garen?

My guesses are: Vi - Guan Yinping (Daughter of Guan Yu) Garen - Guan Ping or Guan Xing (Sons of Guan Yu) Azir - Liu Bei or even Liu Shan

Azir is definitely Zhuge Liang

Also Vi is Red - Red usually is associated with Wu ... my guess is she's Lianshi (she started using punching style weapons in DW8:Empires)

ParappaTheKappa2 votes

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Azir is definitely Zhuge Liang

Also Vi is Red - Red usually is associated with Wu ... my guess is she's Lianshi (she started using punching style weapons in DW8:Empires)

I don't see Zhuge Liang, his outfits were usually white, or at least majority white. As for Vi, seeing as she's shown in servitude to Azir in his splash, I highly doubt she's Lianshi as Lianshi is already in game as Nid (correct me if I'm wrong) I'll look at the Wu roster and see what I can find. Garen has to be one of Yu's sons though. No one else fits.

Jaghatai1 votes

Good catch - I didn't notice her in the splash art of Azir.

I think they missed an opportunity to make Garen look like Xiahou Dun :(

Colors ...

We have: Tryndamere - Guan Yu - primarily green ... but does that matter? Guan Yu is always associated with green JarvanIV - Lu Bu - Black ... Lu Bu was essentially a mercenary. Most associated with Don Zhuo though. XinZhao - Zhao Yun - Shu Kingdom - meets traditional rendering expectations of whites and blues and a little green Katarina - Diao Chan - RIOT post on identity - Which means associations to Dong Zhuo and Lu Bu ... Red, black and white ... fits with Lu Bu scheme ... I guess... Nidalee - Red, red and more red ... lots of gold embelishments ... you might be right about her being Lianshi

So factions we have: JarvanIV Katarina Lu Bu/Dong Zhuo forces

XinZhao Tryndamere Shu forces

Nidalee Wu forces

No one overtly from Wei yet...

So - what we might be looking at here is that our time period assumptions are wrong. This is pre-3 Kingdoms era. Possibly during or post Yellow Turban rebellion.

Which means that Azir might be in fact: Yuan Shao the leader of the forces that quelled the Yellow Turban rebellion and Dong Zhuo's uprising. ... but then there's this indicating possible ties to Zhuge Liang - https://twitter.com/RiotOhmu/status/806599508628905985

What does that mean for Vi and Garen ... not sure ... Especially since Garen looks like Guan Ping ... Which means looking at later 3 Kingdoms era ... but Zhuge Liang wasn't a leader until after Liu Bei died (who in turn died after Guan Yu) ... Which means Azir (Zhuge) as leader can't be contemporary with Tryndamere (Guan Yu)

Ralanr1 votes

Where is the ingame model? I must know!

I suck at Vi but I will use this skin to master her!

Papa Andrei1 votes

Check out Sharko's post

CarameI Frappe1 votes

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Check out Sharko's post

Link please .... would suffice to see for myself.

CarameI Frappe1 votes

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Where is the ingame model? I must know!

I suck at Vi but I will use this skin to master her!

Warring Kingdoms Vi, Garen, and Azir

Chromatic Eagle1 votes

How does being an enforcer disqualify her from this skin?

CarameI Frappe1 votes

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How does being an enforcer disqualify her from this skin?

It doesn't disqualify because I can see her being a body guard of Warring Kingdom Azir , but to me the theme was more suited for a champion that revolves around the theme of it.

Like how Vi was given the Officer theme because she's like a cop in her own city, except a violent one (but the theme applies well). I don't have an issue with her getting this theme, but champions like Shen Syndra MonkeyKing Cassiopeia AurelionSol suit it better? Just my thoughts.

GreenLore3 votes

Well Cassio has already Jade fang cassiopeia,which is a new year-skin,even if it isn't legacy.

But then again its been so much time since her last skin,I'd be glad if she got something.

VelvetCrotch1 votes

So agree with u. Btw Jade should be Legacy or at least Epic imo.

Skin ideas 4 her: Shurima Cassio, Elderwood Cassio, Noxian-Noble Cassio, Prehistoric Cassio, Infernal Cassio <3

Kitty Pix1 votes

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It doesn't disqualify because I can see her being a body guard of Warring Kingdom Azir , but to me the theme was more suited for a champion that revolves around the theme of it.

Like how Vi was given the Officer theme because she's like a cop in her own city, except a violent one (but the theme applies well). I don't have an issue with her getting this theme, but champions like Shen Syndra MonkeyKing Cassiopeia AurelionSol suit it better? Just my thoughts.

Actually if you look at those champions thematically, they don't fit nearly as well as Vi (being the sidekick/underling of Cait, and being less experienced). At least not if you're going along the lines of what their canon actions and motives are compared to the role Vi is filling here (which is pretty in-line with her as a character, I think).

Think about the position she's fillint-- it's subservient in a manner, she's obviously an underling to not only Garen but an Emperor!

I don't know as much about Shen so I'll leave that be, but Syndra? She wants limitless power, so much so she killed her teachers and rose their temple into the sky as her home because they tried to keep her down. You think she'd stand under anyone? Nah. (Not up to date on Wukong either so bygons-be-bygons there too..) Cass is kind of in the same boat. She was in a position of power, lost it because of her betrayal and now we see with the new Universe story about her that she spends her time slinking the darkness for drunk men, dreaming of slinking her way back up the ladder. Submissive? Not so much. And lastly, A. Sol, who I'm sure everyone is yelling would be perfect for this but if you want to look specifically at him IN PLACE OF Vi, it would make even less sense for a celestial being that creates stars out of nothing would be anywhere near okay with serving under ANOTHER fucking Runeterra dweller. He's had enough of that from the Aspects of Targon.

NOW, if you wanted to REMOVE the whole underling ideal completely, and do an entirely new thematic to fit into this skin world they've created, then I would say A. Sol COULD have possibly worked. Possibly. Though the stipulations could be that it's the year of the Rooster and not the Dragon, so it kinda doesn't make all that much sense in the end with that because if it was year of the Dragon it'd probably be an entirely different line with A. Sol at the head and Azir nowhere to be seen. Know what I'm saying?

Valaran Nara2 votes

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It doesn't disqualify because I can see her being a body guard of Warring Kingdom Azir , but to me the theme was more suited for a champion that revolves around the theme of it.

Like how Vi was given the Officer theme because she's like a cop in her own city, except a violent one (but the theme applies well). I don't have an issue with her getting this theme, but champions like Shen Syndra MonkeyKing Cassiopeia AurelionSol suit it better? Just my thoughts.

If you look at Azir's splash, you see Vi and Garen standing between him and the people. Garen could be the loyal, poster boy general that Azir needs. Vi could have been a hoodlum on the street that was raised by either Azir or Garen to be in servitude to the Emperor. Hell, all that's needed to make sense is that she went from solo criminal to enforcer, and by the looks of her splash, she is definitely enforcing something. Her fist into a guy's skull.

Kitty Pix1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Chromatic Eagle,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=WHxa70jW,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2016-12-06T22:45:10.293+0000)

How does being an enforcer disqualify her from this skin?

I feel like they fit her really well into the thematic, actually by paint the picture with splash arts- especially if you look at Azir's, you can see Vi on the steps in front of him with Garen along with his sand soldiers along the side. It makes perfect sense for an Emperor to nott only have his army, but also his head Guard (Garen) and their underdog/second hand (Vi) which tends to be the one with more brute force and less finesse, also why it makes sense.

Idk that's just my two cents as well-- I really enjoy the little chat logs they come out with when skin lines are released (like the newest Sej, Jayce, etc. skins), I think that'll really help paint the full picture when we finally get our hands on these skins. Maybe they'll even have more context for this, since it's for a Holiday and they are Legacy skins.

Kitty Pix1 votes

Also Wukong already has Jade Dragon- definitely wouldn't have been eligible to fit in this line, thematics aside.

Valaran Nara1 votes

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Also Wukong already has Jade Dragon- definitely wouldn't have been eligible to fit in this line, thematics aside.

So...that is Wukong's face on Vi's guantlet?

SkarSkarSkarner1 votes

Seeing as Cassiopeia has had 1 skin already for Lunar Revel, and Wukong has had one, plus another skin celebrating Year of the Monkey. I don't see why they ever need a Warring Kingdoms skin.

Jaghatai1 votes

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CzBCDHwVQAAnT7v.jpg

Not that I hate it; in fact the in-game model and the splash art looks awesome. However, I do have to ask ... why Vi ? The theme doesn&#039;t exactly suit her, and even though skins don&#039;t have to make sense or match entirely ...

Dude - play Dynasty Warriors and read the legend. She can definitely fit into the aesthetic and dynamic of the Romance of the Three Kingdoms.

CarameI Frappe1 votes

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Dude - play Dynasty Warriors and read the legend. She can definitely fit into the aesthetic and dynamic of the Romance of the Three Kingdoms.

But I don't think these were based off the game, even though they have a lot in common. Not saying you're wrong, I just don't think it ties in but again everyone here seems to think Vi fits in so I can see where they and you are coming from lol.

VelvetCrotch1 votes

Do u guys know when this skin should be released about? Mid/End of December or January?

Sukishoo1 votes

It won't be released till sometime in January as the current patch was the last one we will see live in 2016.

VelvetCrotch1 votes

Oh damn... Thx man! =)

NøticeMeSenpai1 votes

well warring kingdom Azir is based of off zhuge liang from the 3 kingdoms, warring kingdom JarvanIV is lu bu, XinZhao is zhao yun, warring kingdom Tryndamere is guan yu, warring kingdom Nidalee i think is sun xiang shang (mostly because the spirit animal of wei, which is the group that sun xiang shang is in, is a tiger) not sure about Katarina Garen Vi but i'm pretty sure they represent something

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