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Okay Riot, can we stop the BS?

Ultîma··34 votes·2,446 views

Just a little reminder that it's been 6 months since you posted this wonderful dev log detailing your thoughts and plans to "push League’s story beyond its original focus on explaining in-game action and forge a new narrative path for Runeterra – a world in which the factions and champions we all know and love have full freedom to grow, travel, and kick ass on a worldwide scale".

Well, we're still waiting on all of the promises you've laid out. Most of the cast has had no revision to its lore, even for those that depended directly on the existence of the League. Jax, Fiddlesticks, Lee Sin, Nocturne... all these guys currently have no reason to exist. World-building outside of character releases has been nothing short of absent. Communication from the dev-team? Non-existent. These are all things you've told us you would do, for which you were criticized in the past and continue to be criticized for today.

For lack of a better term Riot, can you cut the crap and just give us some content?

23 Comments

SEKAI11 votes

Maokai too, League is the very reason why he is even moving, and a lot of his quotes either refer directly to the existence of someone keeping him in leash or commenting on how the overuse of magic only cause tragedy etc.

And RIP Morde's humour.

Shaded Striker3 votes

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Maokai too, League is the very reason why he is even moving, and a lot of his quotes either refer directly to the existence of someone keeping him in leash or commenting on how the overuse of magic only cause tragedy etc.

And RIP Morde's humour.

Maokais lore got changed a long time ago to be linked with the shadow isles.

Impetual7 votes

Six months?! So much time, so little lore content.

Rafael Merlo11 votes

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Six months?! So much time, so little lore content.

Little and bad content, I judge.

Jeddy0177 votes

Lack of content is one thing.Games like the Last of Us & movies like Guardians of the Galaxy weren't made in 6 months.So to me,lack of content isn't a problem so long as they are working on making quality content. BUT,you know what doesn't take 6 months to do?Communicate.And in those 6 months,there haven't been any substantial amount of serious,back & forward communication.My annoyance with this is less about their lack of communication,but more so their constant talk of wanting better communication..............and then not following through.Actions speak louder than words & history show us that they're not walking what they're talking.At this point,I would prefer they stop barking & start biting down on their keyboards with their fingers.

Rafael Merlo4 votes

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Lack of content is one thing.Games like the Last of Us & movies like Guardians of the Galaxy weren't made in 6 months.So to me,lack of content isn't a problem so long as they are working on making quality content. BUT,you know what doesn't take 6 months to do?Communicate.And in those 6 months,there haven't been any substantial amount of serious,back & forward communication.My annoyance with this is less about their lack of communication,but more so their constant talk of wanting better communication..............and then not following through.Actions speak louder than words & history show us that they're not walking what they're talking.At this point,I would prefer they stop barking & start biting down on their keyboards with their fingers.

And what if the new content is far worse than the older? Will they revert the Great Retcon?

Judging by the quality of the content post IoW erasure I doubt that this team will manage to put anything satisfatory.

Jeddy0171 votes

That is also a reasonable concern.Putting lore fans through all this BS only to produce sub-par material would not help with the lore team & lore fans relationships. Only time will tell.

Fried Noob1 votes

I'm all for more communication from the lore team. However, I've noticed that most of the communication winds up being Riot: "Hey, what do you guys think?" Community "THIS SUCKS, BRING BACK OLD LORE. YOU SHIULD BE FIRED FOR WRITING THIS CRAP!!!" That's a bit exaggerated, but it gets my point across. Why would you want to communicate with people that are only going to spew hate at you?

Ultîma3 votes

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I'm all for more communication from the lore team. However, I've noticed that most of the communication winds up being Riot: "Hey, what do you guys think?" Community "THIS SUCKS, BRING BACK OLD LORE. YOU SHIULD BE FIRED FOR WRITING THIS CRAP!!!" That's a bit exaggerated, but it gets my point across. Why would you want to communicate with people that are only going to spew hate at you?

That is false.

When asked questions about our views of the lore and characters, people write extremely detailed pieces on LoL. It's obviously head cannon, but when entire threads are filled with the stuff, it could be used as great data for Riot to look at player perception regarding themes and archetypes for their roster. There's been a lot of threads, namely (but not limited to) Fiddlesticks and Taric. There's great feedback and discussion on these threads, with little in the way of complaints like you've said. It's when Riot gives us the silent treatment and does not follow up on anything that people get riled up and start complaining because things are not improving.

DG Ashabel3 votes

Lack of content is one thing.Games like the Last of Us & movies like Guardians of the Galaxy weren't made in 6 months.So to me,lack of content isn't a problem so long as they are working on making quality content.

While that's correct, let's remember that the narrative team didn't put out any narrative content between the retcon announcement and the Freljord event. So they didn't have just six months after the retcon, they also had eight months before it and yet didn't prepare any new content for the announcement.

That is, unless you count the Shurima event to be new content. I don't because the event is incomplete and more than half of the characters associated with the event never received new lore.

I keep hearing about how we should trust the narrative team because they're professionals, but I see nothing professional in taking eight months to deliver a third of an event, then spending six more months on trying to shift blame onto the web design team.

OhOkYea5 votes

Nerf Lee Sin first

SecretAgentHulk7 votes

Yeah, we'll get the Lore team right on that.

Voidac3 votes

Well, without LoL, Noxus just gas-nuked the world and insanely powerful mages were left to run free, thus destroying the world and all the people and lore on it. Everything held captive in the IoW is just sorta... free to do whatever they want.

Riot is going to drag their feet with the lore because they don't make money off of telling stories, they make money off of skins. The lore you loved has now been completely retconned? Who cares, buy skins, don't make us do stuff.

LeeDark3 votes

^This.

Little do we know it, but there is no new lore because the world without the League is apparently a desolate wasteland, destroyed by magic and Void monsters run rampant.

Voidac2 votes

^ THIS.

ValuedCustomer3 votes

To be honest, I would even go as far as removing ALL the lore until the whole lore system is properly revised. I've read several pieces of lore that have been "reworked" into a single paragraph, and they looked like the work of a fourth grader rushing for an assignment due overnight. If something isn't ready, its place is on the drawing board, not on public display.

LeeDark3 votes

Oh, you mean you didn't see this coming?

You weren't expecting more empty promises?

You thought Narrative would actually have meaningful conversations with us?

Oh, you poor, poor fool.

Ultîma2 votes

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Oh, you mean you didn't see this coming?

You weren't expecting more empty promises?

You thought Narrative would actually have meaningful conversations with us?

Oh, you poor, poor fool.

Made all the more frustrating when there's multiple threads on the front page of Story & Art with Riot input, except they only discuss art.

LeeDark2 votes

Yeah, that is one of the WORST aspects of the new "boards" layout. By combining Story and Art, they've only emphasized how much more involved IronStylus is with the community than the ENTIRE LORE TEAM.

GalaxyMenace2 votes

This.

Star PlatinumELO2 votes

half a year already, boy time really flies

Tesla Effect1 votes

You obvious didnt read this article . If you would this article wouldnt need to exist.

Ultîma8 votes

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You obvious didnt read this article . If you would this article wouldnt need to exist.

Bioluminescence, while offering a fantastic opinion, does not work on the LoL narrative team. Again, this shows complete lack of willingness to communicate with the playerbase from that department and follow-through with their promise to do so. Props for Bio for making an effort and giving us some encouraging thoughts, but they won't be substantiated with progress in the story - pretty much like everything else Riot has done throughout all 5 seasons.

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