new Amumu lore feels unsatisfying

The Deckowner··33 votes·2,370 views

There was this type of lore which rito use a lot: Amumu: he is lonely and no one knows who he is. Rammus: he wonders around the dessert, no one knows about him. Bard: it roams around the world, no one knows about him.

new amumu lore basically talks some rumor about him, but still, unsatisfying.

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ModKnightsKemplar9 votes

I really like what the lore team is doing overall. I'll lead with that, because I agree with you. While I really, really like the air of mystery around Amumu, it doesn't really tell us much about Amumu.

This kind of ties in with the recent trend to do these legendary beings; they aren't fitting in to the game so well, imo. People keep talking about how champions like AurelionSol and RekSai aren't even the right size in-game... it really ruins the charm for me. League was cool as a game where you got to pit those personalities against each other, but when you have to reduce their power from lore to fit them into the game, it just feels lame... The same could be said of Kindred and Tahm Kench.

I realize that has little to nothing to do with your point about Amumu, but I felt like it's kind of a similar case of the story team making a similar mistake. In all these cases, they are writing cool stuff. But they've forgotten that what drew people to league in the first place was that the story TIED INTO THE GAME DIRECTLY. It doesn't anymore, and that's a serious offense. It isn't something that will make me quit playing... but it is something that makes me less invested in it.

Voidrey12 votes

I can't really blame them, as I don't know how they could fix the lore and give them a reason to fight one another.

also I like to keep lore and the game separate to a degree as I'd rather not question how a cigarless guy with a shotgun can gundown the dragon creator of the stars

ModKnightsKemplar1 votes

Haha that's fair, but I'm not saying they need a reason to fight each other. In Season 2 and 3, the champions at least fit on SR together... I mean, if Garen and J4 are on opposite teams, it's hard to reconcile. That's not what I mean. At least it's feasible for them to have a fight.

Aurelion Sol fighting Annie, on the other hand... kinda one sided, right?

Wind Whistler2 votes

Not to mention they actually REDUCED Rek'Sai's size. They hate her THAT much.

Baron of Bread1 votes

Many of the old champions had to have their power reduced on the field or their size reduced. Like Malphite, he is huge but has never been that big in game. Syndra can rip islands from the ground, but cant just toss your towers into your nexus. Champs in the game not being equal to what they are in the lore has been a thing since before the Great Retcon.

ModKnightsKemplar1 votes

You make a consistent point, but it doesn't really change my mind. Malphite is a decent example; Syndra is much more recent. But either way, I prefer the champs that fit on the Rift.

Again, it's less about pining for "how it used to be" and more about getting to the heart of what is interesting and different about LoL. Having champs who have a fantasy in the lore that is consistent with their fantasy in the game is part of the charm. It may be true that Malphite was never part of that charm, but I don't think it invalidates the concept.

Mhihnj1 votes

Cho is supposed to be bigger than malphite

Papa Andrei6 votes

He is supposed to be mysterious, what they can't have some mystery in the game?

Xulsigae5 votes

Mystery is fine, but not when it doesn't add anything but 'We don't know much about this character.' It's really easy to make a story where the character could be many things, but you often need a set story to compare the other stories to. I could say X character might be a man, woman, octopus, and might be a hero, villain, carpenter. There's plenty of mystery, but I haven't actually said anything of importance.

Papa Andrei5 votes

They said alot that was important. He is cursed, a child like figure, ancient shuriman, wayyyy older than Azir. Lonel

Xulsigae4 votes

We knew all that before though. They haven't added much, if anything we didn't know already.

Decrit1 votes

Actually they added a LOT: the place in the world he has. That alone speaks for him as a character.

He tells a story, he moves figures of tales and stories that are shaped around the same core. Even if we don' t know much details about him, we know his core aspects; what he was before becoming a mummy is not much rilevant to us spectators, even if it is to the character itself. And Amumu covers this unique spot, with other champions not being quite similiar to him ( Bard is simply an otherwordly figure, while Rammus and i might add Evelynn are just lacking a proper background).

Xulsigae2 votes

We knew his core aspects already though.

Decrit1 votes

Yeah. But they added everything else, and how that relates to him. Is not a small thing, and also something much deeper than saying "now he has annie is happy the end".

Even thought damn, Rito was cruel here :c

Xulsigae1 votes

I fail to see what they added though. They have given us little but a choose your own ending.

lolipopevelynn1 votes

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I fail to see what they added though. They have given us little but a choose your own ending.

the only thing i seen that they added was how amu was discovered/released from his tomb and confirming that he was indeed a emperor/ruler of ancient shurima long before azirs family came to be rulers. but that is all they added. tbh that song involving amu gave us more insight into him and where he is headed.

Decrit1 votes

We have a choose your own ending because now we have actually something to pick up from. Before it was like "alright here this dude k move on".

Xulsigae1 votes

I feel we have the same now. Who is Amumu? We could tell you, or we could waffle.

Decrit1 votes

hhhhm, waffles...

Voidrey4 votes

theres a fine line between mystery and not knowing sh*t

Game girl 13 votes

Amumus lore is so badass, even if we don't learn much about him you can't deny the chills at the last line.

SlyTactician 2 votes

I feel you - the new lore is very well written indeed and I was immersed by the Azir and Xerath lore; however, in Amumu's updated lore it pretty much writes him to being a figure of mythology and rumours as opposed to being a real character that people could associate with.

Amumu is pretty much left ambiguous by his identity which is understandable considering some people consider him to be a human while others a yordle, but at the end of the day - his lore says very little about him as a character other than the fact that he's a figure of misery and loneliness.

ModAcademy Kayn1 votes

To be fair, other than being lonely, how would you associate yourself with Amumu?

Protoform X1 votes

The only way I can play him is by imagining he's actually an evil little sadist who also happens to be the best actor in Runeterra. No matter which rumor is true, it's depressing stuff.

lolipopevelynn1 votes

i think they should have atleast told us if he is a yordle or not. i know what they are trying to do, it is a "leave it up to the reader" type of deal, but the problem is that stories like these are never completed which makes me wonder why they rewrote the lore in the first place when it basically says exactly what the old lore of Amumu already told us.

i guess we can put together clues, like for example in all of the stories he is a emperor/ruler with followers. if i am to draw my own conclusion here, and if i am to go off of the "greed and tears" story and being the true tale of how Amumu was discovered and unearthed, then i will say he was apart of a tyrannical leadership by his parents.

Amumu himself is actually a good child, but the deeds of his family/parents were the complete opposite of himself. this is why some people mourned for amu while other celebrated him in the last picture seen by khaldun. Whoever hated his family put a curse on his entire family, including the innocent amu.

his entire family died and he was the only one left. as wicked as the curse is and whoever put it on his family in the first place knew how much Amumu loved to be around his people, so when he finally died from the curse it revived him in a mummified state and cursed him even further to forever be alone in the world. not having any friends or enemies, just complete loneliness.

i assume he got the worst of the curse because as the youngest he would be the last ruling emperor of shurima with his entire family dead, and whoever hated his family enough to place the curse did not care how kind hearted amu was compared to the rest of his family.

thats just my own drawn conclusion. Im sure it will just add to the many tales he already has, but alot of the stories point to him and/or his family being rulers, and curses are usually put on people that are hated even if the descendants are completely innocent.

one question that needs to be answered tho is how powerful IS his curse exactly? if im to take it litterally then amu is the most powerful league champion lore wise. if anyone comes near him they die, regardless of mortality. in one of Kindred quotes to amu it would seem even kindred is afraid of of going near him, and they ARE death. all champions that have interactions with amu, regardless of how powerful, are afraid to go near amumu.

so basically Kindred cant even grant amu peace of death because they themselves cant get near him to do so. its an interesting thought.

The Deckowner1 votes

Wolf actually showed up in amumu's music video, it watches him and stay around but doesn't do anything to him. My guess is everyone near amumu will have unpeaceful death given by wolf, but wolf can not give death to amumu himself.

lolipopevelynn1 votes

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Wolf actually showed up in amumu's music video, it watches him and stay around but doesn't do anything to him. My guess is everyone near amumu will have unpeaceful death given by wolf, but wolf can not give death to amumu himself.

its not officially known if that was wolf or the personal demons of amu's curse tho. if it is wolf tho it would make sense as everyone who goes near amu, a walking death mummy, runs from him. and wolf chases those who runs from death. maybe amu is true death :^)

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