Could Rengar be possibly be a Yordle?

SaltyToplaneGoat··4 votes·1,346 views

I know, I know it sounds really, really weird at first, but since the introduction of the yordles as just some other random generic fanatsy race I think they have been rewritten into something a bit more complex. This might have started when Illaoi adresses them as "spirits", or maybe even before, but my theory is that Yordles are somewhat spiritual beings bound to the places they inhabit or the cultures they come into contact with.

Just look at Poppy. She's like the symbol of Demacia somehow. Same thing with Kled, who's probably the best representation of noxian war-culture I have ever seen. Heimerdinger is a genius sceintist, and if there is one thing Piltover stands for its genius science. Gnar is pretty much the incarnation of prehistoric Runeterra. Lulu is bound to the Fae As for the other yordles... Teemo and Tristana still are in line for a lore update and we don't know for sure if Bandle City even still exists or if they are spread over the land. I can see these two traveling with mercenary groups tho. Ziggs would fit perfectly into Zaun with his crazy disregard for safety measures - however, I'm sure there is no limit like "one yordle per place", so he might as well be coinnected to Piltover. And Rumble... no clue, I can only assume that this yordle-rewrite is still in progress.

Btw, isn't it interesting that the only yordle not connected to a specific place is the "odd one out"? Veigar Going by the name of Veigars abilities one might almost suggest that Veigar didn't bind with a location but with the cosmos itself, but let's safe that thought for another thread.

They have perfectly become the "local spirits" of these areas - not too much of a thing if you remember they also seem to be immortal.

Now, Rengar is a tricky case. It is said that he is some "one of a kind" being - but if there is no species of badass cat people, then what is he? Simple: a yordle that has become the local spirit of the jungle. The only culture that he grew up with was the one of hunting - both the hunting for survival, and the one for sport and fame - the first one would be Nidalees theme (who is also kinda a "spirit of the jungle"), he's called the pridestalker for a reason after all. It wouldn't be weird to assume that his body has changed in the jungle, resulting in the big towering form that he is today.

After all who says yordles have to be small? After all Gnar proves that they also can be really, really, big at times.

What's almost more interesting is that this means there is a yordle for every area. There could be a Shuriman Yordle (a caravan leader maybe?), there could be a Shadow Isles Yordle (very ded), there could be a Freljordian Yordle (either a civilian who tends to his goats or a miniature version of Olaf, whatever you like), there could be an Ionian Yordle, and maybe even a Bilgewater one (yordle pirates anyone?).

And even more intersting: what happens to a Yordle when the place they are connected to falls to ruins? Someone gotta ask Zilean if there was a yordle back in Urtistan...

33 Comments

ReshiKillim6 votes

I think the simpler conclusion is: Blame Zaun and Singed. Tossing chemicals everywhere does crazy stuff.

SaltyToplaneGoat1 votes

Ya can only blame Zaun when the result has economical value.

Even if this was some kind of super-soldier-experiment-accident, knife-swining cat people have no place in modern warfare. For that you would need genius saboteurs that can instantly dismantle tech and build their own weapons from it Vi or masters of tactics and improvisation that can use a whole arsenal of modern weapons Jinx . But not a wild knife-cat. Definetly not.

So no, sadly Zaun is not a legitimate explanation...

Ebonmaw Dragon1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Kyoki Shinkuro,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=T8XMruue,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-07-25T23:18:40.732+0000)

Ya can only blame Zaun when the result has economical value.

Even if this was some kind of super-soldier-experiment-accident, knife-swining cat people have no place in modern warfare. For that you would need genius saboteurs that can instantly dismantle tech and build their own weapons from it Vi or masters of tactics and improvisation that can use a whole arsenal of modern weapons Jinx . But not a wild knife-cat. Definetly not.

So no, sadly Zaun is not a legitimate explanation...

A inteligent Lion with the power of becoming invisible (Twitch) and superhuman strengh (DrMundo )... Equip him with a sniper rifle and a machinegun instead of a knife and you have a powerfull killing machine

Just look at the Charr from GW2.

http://images.mmorpg.com/images/newsImages/172011/CharrConcept_t.jpg http://img08.deviantart.net/0526/i/2014/068/3/d/charr_riflemen_by_guildwars_2-d79lemv.png

He could be an experiment gone wrong who escaped.

SaltyToplaneGoat1 votes

Rengar is not extraordinarely strong. Yes, he is well trained, but his strenght are speed and his claws/knifes. There are several human champions that could probably beat him in a contest of pure strenght from what I can guess. Also, the "experiment gone wrong" trope has been filled times and times again already. Warwick, Mundo (well, the results were kinda intended tho), Twitch,... I doubt that they would use it so often.

Also, his lore states that you usually find him in the wilderness, suggesting the Plague Jungles, an area that is quite a distance away from Zaun. Nidalee is listed as his rival, so it can be assumed that he's from the same corner of the world as she is.

Ebonmaw Dragon1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Kyoki Shinkuro,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=T8XMruue,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2016-07-25T23:41:33.889+0000)

Rengar is not extraordinarely strong. Yes, he is well trained, but his strenght are speed and his claws/knifes. There are several human champions that could probably beat him in a contest of pure strenght from what I can guess. Also, the "experiment gone wrong" trope has been filled times and times again already. Warwick, Mundo (well, the results were kinda intended tho), Twitch,... I doubt that they would use it so often.

Also, his lore states that you usually find him in the wilderness, suggesting the Plague Jungles, an area that is quite a distance away from Zaun. Nidalee is listed as his rival, so it can be assumed that he's from the same corner of the world as she is.

Well, im not saying that he IS from Zaun... but its not tottally impossible. After all, if you escape from Zaun, the most reasonable option is to get away from Zaun.

And Zaun is like 80% experiments gone wrong... even the time machine was an experiment of Ekko that went in a wrong way.

SaltyToplaneGoat1 votes

That time machine seems to be working flawlessly from my perspective tho. Same thing with all the other experiments. Some just tend to have certain... side effects. Viktor's work surely is no failed experiment, neither is Singed's or Mundo's.

I think people are forgetting just HOW BIG the world it. The old map is no longer canon, and even if we look at it, a red said that travelling from Noxus to Demacia (capital to captial) in a horse-drawn carriage takes SEVERAL MONTHS.

If Rengar has undertaken that ordeal of walking liteally to the other side of the world as a kid, then it would be part of his lore. As that is an event too important to cut away. However, his lore is "found and raised by hunter". Where are hunters, especially those with a love for tophies? The wilderness - the jungle to be exact.

GreenLore2 votes

That could actually be a possibilty. I mean it was established already that yordles seem to have innate magic abilities,I mean Gnar is still a child and he can transform into a huge monster,so what if Rengar has a similar ability from birth,but is stuck in it?

Though I doubt the whole "yordle are bound to a location"-stuff. Ziggs doesn't have known connections to Zaun and you are forgetting Corki.

I think the reason why the yordles seem to be all over the place is more that it is simply an interesting design choice to make a yordle champ for different nations,simply for the sake of variety.

SaltyToplaneGoat1 votes

Well, the rewriting procress is still in progress and we all know just how slow and lame the departments at Riot are by just looking at the fact that champs that have lost their entire reason for existence by the removal of the IoW STILL have no new lore .I mean, it is kind of awkward that we have immortal non-human beings around that literally are the incarnation of the culture they are living through. Kind of suspicious don't ya think?

Of course it can be multiple yordles on a place personifying different aspects of it. Piltover is not ALL about science - they also have some pride on aircrafts. In old lore there was this airship race after all. That is, as long as they don't retcon Corki into a very tiny human. Would work technically, after all nothing I have ever seen or read of him as sprung me as "this is a yordle", but it would tick some poeple off.

Also, I'm not saying Ziggs has connections - just that he'd fit right in.

Emojay2 votes

I recently decyphered secret programming in the lol game. Go to the homepage, and click the store. Then, go to skins, and type in, "Rengarsecrets" This will pull up a secret page on rengar! Really, he's a Yordle, who is from outer space. He managed to hop onto Aurelion sol's back, and ride to runeterra, but the cosmetic rays of the sun were different, mutating him into a Yordle of unspeakable powers. He then became friends with a donkey, and traveled to the shadow iles, Where he found the item 3116, and he dropped it into a puddle. The puddle was cursed, and the donkey turned humanoid, and eventually sole Grave's cigar! He then traveled to the human world, where he plays video games, under the name of VIDEOGAMEDUNKEY. He tried to warn us that Singed owned Riot, but we thought he was joking. After realizing that nobody believed him, he left lol, and all of Runeterra behind him. Rengar then met Sejuana, whom nobody remembers... They joined forces to find his lost donkey friend, but all they found were trashy runes. So Rengar ate Sejuana, and thats how he is not a Yordle. (Also, Dunkey's a real youtuber! Go check him out!) Also, gift me stuff, because I asked u guys.[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Emojay1 votes

U guys have it all wrong. I cnat believe u guys ACTUALLY READ THE LORE POSTED! It's all fake. Veigar is actually a Monkey, who became a yordle whenever he ate a Poro genie, and then he became evil. DUUUUUUH! To see more secrets, go to GIFT, and buy me a skin. Trust me, its an amazing glitch!

Cavemantero2 votes

stop. no. just stop.

Ebonmaw Dragon1 votes

The updated lore of Heimerdinger and the update of Tristana confirm that Bandle still existing... so, the whole theory of "spiritual beings bound to the places they inhabit or the cultures they come into contact with." is wrong. (You said that "Teemo and Tristana still are in line for a lore update"... which is not true, because Tristana was updated already)

And there is a yordle from Ionia called Kennen (And Ammumu could be considered a yordle from Shurima)

However, your thread is not about that... its about Rengar being a yordle.

I dont think so, however, its not far fetched to think that Rengar might be soem kind of "Gorilla" for the yordles (Both species share a common ancestor).

SaltyToplaneGoat1 votes

Tristana was updated in visuals and gameplay, not her lore from what I remember.

Ah yes I forgot Kennen and Amumu - although, I doubt Amumu was a yordle. He's a cursed child emperor - crumbling kingdoms like the falling Shurima Empire usually see soldier-rules and child-emperors in the process of decay.

Yes, but it only makes sense with the local-spirits theory. if Rengar is "one of a kind", then where the hell are his parents? They gotta be coming from SOMEWHERE, you know?

And yordles have some kind of spiritual thing to them, as Illaoi's VO confirms.

Skelenth1 votes

Her new VO mentions Bandle though, especially the Bandle Gunners during her dance emote

Amumu is Schrödingers Yordle. Both being one and not being one because we don't know either. The new lore gives three theories, at least one of them mentions him being a Yordle

GreenLore1 votes

Tristanas VO however does mention Bandle city(and that she is a bandle gunner,meaning there are others as well)

Ebonmaw Dragon1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Kyoki Shinkuro,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=T8XMruue,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2016-07-25T23:32:44.564+0000)

Tristana was updated in visuals and gameplay, not her lore from what I remember.

She got an updated lore and a new voiceover.

Greatness comes in all shapes and sizes, as proven by this diminutive, cannon-wielding yordle. In a world fraught with turmoil, Tristana refuses to back down from any challenge. She represents the pinnacle of martial proficiency, unwavering courage, and boundless optimism. For Trist and her gun, Boomer, every mission is a chance to prove that heroes do exist.

Her new voiceover mentions many times Bandle.

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/d/da/Tristana.move14.ogg/revision/latest?cb=20150114224822 http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/d/df/Tristana.spellEOverkill04.ogg/revision/latest?cb=20150116233221

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67slIsmkrSY

And the new updated lore of Heimerdinger says this in the first paragraph:

Current meteorological conditions in Bandle City seem optimal. Atmospheric pressure is ideal for today's experiments!

SaltyToplaneGoat1 votes

Well, one thing doesn't really exclude the other, although that means there is a city of Half-Spirits (because if they are also biological beings this gets a little complicated) on this planet. It would be possible, that I can say for sure.

I must have missed that part - Tristana has always been such a boring staple character for me I never took up the interest of doing any research here.

Ebonmaw Dragon1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Kyoki Shinkuro,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=T8XMruue,comment-id=0002000000020000,timestamp=2016-07-25T23:45:24.801+0000)

Well, one thing doesn't really exclude the other, although that means there is a city of Half-Spirits (because if they are also biological beings this gets a little complicated) on this planet. It would be possible, that I can say for sure.

I must have missed that part - Tristana has always been such a boring staple character for me I never took up the interest of doing any research here.

Of course that it invalidates the whole theory man, if you dont make a research of the Yordle Race while making a theory of the yordles, it means that you ignore important parts of the lore (In your other reply you said that the machine of Ekko "seems to be working flawlessly" when it fails in the comic of Ekko and Riot said in the QaA that Ekko created the time machine by accident when he was creating a different machine)

This theory is like those ones that try to link all the champions of the Void with the 7 sins or things like that.

SaltyToplaneGoat1 votes

There are no accidents. There are only happy little occasions. That's how science works. You don't go there with a goal like "I'm gonna do this!" - you fool around, document all of it, and then try to work around your theories and then create something. As long as something is created, it is not an accident.

Well it would not be weird for a 7 sin group to exist somewhere in league (not today, but maybe some time in the future) - it is a common pop-culture trope after all, one that is easily understood and widely accepeted while also being kind of universal, as sloth, lust, greed, etc. are common in most cultures. As for the Void... usually we know when a champion is connected to that. The purple glow and the claws is kinda a giveaway...

Malicious Metal1 votes

It would honestly detract from his character as a beast raised by a human hunter to be the very best, like no one ever was. To slay beasts and mount their heads on his wall.

His youthful eagerness actually cost him his eye and I feel he should simply remain a mortal race and not some spirit/yordle

SaltyToplaneGoat1 votes

Well, technically, being a yordle and being a beast don't really exclude each other. I mean, just look at this Gnar

What is a beast anyways? Usually the definition is a fearsome monster that you cannot communicate or reason with. But Rengar is an intelligent and sentinent being - why would you ever come to the idea that he is some animal that was tamed? He's no beast. He might look scary, sure, but calling him a beast is kind of rude, don't you think?

Trolosaurus1 votes

Kled refers to Rengar as a relative So uh.... :?

SaltyToplaneGoat1 votes

The resemblance is kinda there, you gotta admit that ^^

Cavemantero1 votes

{quoted}

Kled refers to Rengar as a relative So uh.... :?

If that's the case then its just Riot being dumb imo. Trying to tie Rengar into the Yordle race is as far fetched as Yorick ever getting his update.

DeathBurst1 votes

Yeah, I don't come often in Story & Art, but I was actually thinking the same thing. Take my upvote.

SaltyToplaneGoat1 votes

Thanks :D

[slayer-jinx-wink]

PelicanOfDeath1 votes

i doubt the theory due to the fact that firstly, the reason gnar is big is genetic, otherwise known as the Rage Gene. Secondly, if Yordles change by location then why don't rumble and heimerdinger look exactly the same? Also how would Poppy be connected to Demacia if she looked the same way at the founding of Demacia, as well as the time before Demacia existed? Next, Rengar is cited as growing a mane (something that no other known yordle does) as well as moving constantly, so he couldn't be bound to a location. Veigar and Lulu are weird because they were placed in isolation, either in the fairy realm or in a Noxian prison. That's why lulu isn't friends with any standard Yordle, but is friends with Pix.

SaltyToplaneGoat1 votes

First of all, Lulu was not isolated, she had the Fae to keep her companty.

But their changes might be caused by exposure to the respective culture. They are not really absolutley bound to one place, they just adapt to it really strongly, and this might also include biological changes.

Also, about Rengar's mane: Yordle hair seems to have a lot of variation, even stuff like Rumbles hairdo seems possible, so why not a mane?

PelicanOfDeath1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Kyoki Shinkuro,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=T8XMruue,comment-id=00070000,timestamp=2016-07-29T18:33:12.633+0000)

First of all, Lulu was not isolated, she had the Fae to keep her companty.

But their changes might be caused by exposure to the respective culture. They are not really absolutley bound to one place, they just adapt to it really strongly, and this might also include biological changes.

Also, about Rengar's mane: Yordle hair seems to have a lot of variation, even stuff like Rumbles hairdo seems possible, so why not a mane?

First of all, lulu was isolated from all other yordles, as well as anything that may speak common. Living with a flock of seagulls wouldn't exactly give humans the contact they need.

If they are meant to adapt strongly, then, once again, why would Poppy look the same before, during, and after the founding of Demacia, even when she lived in a different location before? Even more, why do Heimerdinger and Corki look fairly similar despite living in very different places, one in a village of tiny furry people and one in a robot wonderland?

Human hair has a lot of variation. Just look at the band "A Flock of Seagulls"

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=flock%20of%20seagulls%20hair

Does this mean we can grow lion manes? No. No it does not.

https://www.google.com/search?q=person+with+lion+mane&espv=2&biw=1440&bih=799&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiwt-X8jp_OAhUU82MKHXK4C2EQ_AUIBygA&dpr=1

Does this mean Yordles could grow lion's manes? No. No it does not.

Does this mean that Rengar, an actual freaking lion could grow a lion's mane? Yes. Yes it does. Thank you for attending my seminar on why you're wrong. Your homework is to read my book.

https://www.amazon.com/Adventures-Rainbow-Fish-Collection/dp/0735841853

XIII Vanitas1 votes

Nope, this theory is too far-fetched. I'm sorry, but there isn't even a hint that might back it up.

The world of Runeterra is full of magic and creatures and places we don't know yet. Skaarl, the mount of the new champion, is an example.

SaltyToplaneGoat1 votes

The thing is: having animals like Skaarl around is nothing weird.

However, having a sentinent race of giant cat warriors and no one knows ANYTHING of them? Not very likely.

And since a Rioter confirmed in an Q&A back then that there is no "species" of Rengars and that he is a unique anomaly, it makes only sense to look at the other race of versatile furballs that we have: Yordles. Beings suspected to have at least a connection to the spiritual.

Also, I think Kled plays taunts and jokes for yordles when he's around, but i gotta check that again.

XIII Vanitas1 votes

I've never stated that there is a race of Rengars. There are infinite possibilities to explain Rengar's origins because most of Runeterra is still unknown to us. Nothing really connects him to the Yordle race (there are many anthropomorphic champions that have nothing to do with them), so I don't see why I should believe your theory.

SaltyToplaneGoat1 votes

Wukong is, if my memory serves me right, a magicially radiated monkey. or we he a statue that was animed by magic? Not exactly sure how stuff is with new lore now.

Nidalee is equally magically "contaminated", Ahri was literally a fox before she gained this new form.

The other demi-humans have a race connected to them, such as the Ursine or minotaurs. The others are cursed in some way (Warwick, Cassio). But none applies to Rengar.

Rengar IS a unique case here, as I see no traces of external magical inflence as with Nidalee. Also, he shares the straight-forward nature and optimism of yordles (even though it takes a weird form in his case. He is SURE that he will not die even by hunting things 100x times more dangerous than him), and he just looks kinda simliar to kled when you compare the faces.

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