Is Janna truly the only "god" in Piltover and Zaun?

SaltyToplaneGoat··6 votes·1,343 views

At first there is the problem to why she's the only "divine spirit" showing herself in human form on Runeterra. And there is even the possibility that she is the only one: My guess is that most other areas lack a certain "faith capacity" given their low population. I think it can be assumed that Piltover and Zaun are the most densely populated spot on the planet, and Janna could only materialize as the entire city called her for help in the Great Incident years ago. Possibly Noxus and the captial of Demacia might have such deities as well, but we have not met them yet - or at least they have not been introduced as such. In Demacia they have their "Veiled Lady", and looking at Noxus it would be interesting to see who and to what goal the Black Rose really serves...

But with Piltover and Zaun things get a bit complicated, as always when mad science is involved. And going by old lore there was a certain scientist who had tried to chase after the secret of immortality - a rather divine thing. No matter the culture in our world, as different as their gods were, immortality was a constant. So the search for immortality and the search for divinity might be one and the same thing at some point.

Now the way janna functions, as a way that can be observed and theorized, would be that she draws from the collective subconscious of the population who constantly floods the aether with their wishes, desires, dreams, and prayers. A "divine" entity is primarely just a "reciever", at first it does nothing but take in all of that, and is then CHANGED by those it takes in, specially by those that are directed at it. Just take janna for example: at first she did pretty much nothing, but the sailors just viewed her as an omen for good luck, safe travel, and good winds. They fed her up with more and more until she finally was able to take action herself and act like the god they unknowingly created, increasing the faith in her even more, and so her powers.

The implication of this: whoever can act as an "reciever" for the collective subconscious can become extremly powerful, as it is a seemingly infinite pool of energy - as long as there are people you have power.

So the first step our scientist - who's Singed for all who have not guessed it yet - would make was to make experiments to how to turn a human person into such a "reciever". Obviously that requires cruel human experimentation on a large scale, because even with a successfull link the surviving person might either be physically overloaded and be reduced to dust or physically twisted beyond imagination (oh that's some good horror potential here), or their mind might simply break under the subconscious voices of all the people of the most densely populated area in the world. Even with several dozend experiments it wouldn't be weird to have one, two, ore possibly only three survivors - or at least people who are somewhat sane.

Also, given that you don't want your subjects to be smart and/or evil enough to use their potential new powers against you, it would only be logical to pick subjects you could subdue and/or manipulate easily. To make it short: child experiments, which had the advantage that orphanages just turned into very cost efficient well of test-subjects. Is it highly uneathical? Obviously. Has that ever stopped someone like Singed? Nope.

My thesis is that we have the name of one, or possibly even two or three, of those survivors.

Now what is the most common element of Zaunite culture? A constant state of anarchy. Yes there are chem barons, but even those are just individuals who have just grabbed on some power and can easily fall again. The only reason most of them hold a loose alliance is for their own benefit, and once it proved beneficial they wouldn't stop with stabbing each other into their backs.

And what champion is literally a "being of pure anarchy"? Someone who's entire reason for existence is to cause trouble and mayhem, and all for no reason besides it lies in their very nature? Jinx , obviously. She literally cannot stop herself from causing trouble, even if she was to lay down her head wouldn't stop giving her impulses and hyperactivity. And now if she speaks of her sister... does she really mean Vi or possibly even Janna?

But Vi might still be on that "sister-spot" tho. She however seems to have to worked with her "new powers" completly differently: by completly shutting the door on them instead of embracing them like Jinx does. Probably caused by trauma, which has also wiped out all her memories of the incident - it is cannon that she has no memories to prior the age of six. And that's unnatural, given that humans only tend to forget the first three years as the brain shifts in the "data format" in which it saves memories. Sure, you don't recall much from age five, but there surely is something everyone has. Not coming up with anything is kinda weird - unless you have suffered a major trauma, then it makes perfect sense.

But that doesn't mean the effects of the experiment are still gone. Vi might be still connected to the collective subconscious, but she's unknowingly surpressing it, leading to her "easy to enrage"-nature and attitude. Isn't it weird that some brat on the street turns out to be a genius mechanic? Even Heimerdinger is impressed by her gauntlets, and before she was doing mechanic-stuff for the Zaun gangs - before the whole fiasko in the mines and she set out to rip her -now former - gang-mates a new one and then somehow joined forces with Caitlyn (which I think was a really weird process incuding lots of irritation on both sides and delicious cupcakes. The cupcakes are the main reason she stayed. But that's just my theory ^^)

The question is now to what part of the collective subconscious Vi is connected. Or if that is even specified and what you draw from the aether might be dependant on your personality, who knows? Definetly not Vi that is.

There might also be a third survivor, but we have not seen them yet. Possibly the ellusive "C" - if he is still canon that is... Right now we have two aspects of the cities: anarchy and inventiveness, that both are present in Vi and Jinx in varying degrees. But what if there was a third concept to be dominant in Piltover and Zaun? My guess would be on "greed". The Kench knows it as well, he even has a line for Jayce I think in which he calls the drive for inventions the "hunger/greed for something new". At the same time Piltover is the most propserous and technologically advanced nation on the planet, while also being the world's largest trading hub. If you want to make a fortune, you work in Piltover. Having some sort of "super-theif" show up who only steals the finest treasures wouldn't be weird at all, especially if the desire to amass and hoard these treasures like some sort of crazy dragon was directly engraved into his existence.

Also, Singed still chasing after immortality would also explain his experiments on Warwick. The vastaya are said to be long lived, possibly even immortal. But Singed is not someone to disregard other possibly options, and had probably multiple experiments going on simultanously - and that is why Warwick recognices Jinx somehow...

Buuuut again, just a theory. it would be nice if a red could drop by and comment this.

Until then, here have a Jinx:

[slayer-jinx-wink]

20 Comments

Ebonmaw Dragon3 votes

There is only one true god of Zaun and its Urgot URGOD

SaltyToplaneGoat1 votes

Ironically especially he would refuse such position. With the new lore he appears to be some sort of super-anarchist who opposes all hierachies. "There are no rulers, only survivors." A god would by definition be superior to humans, thus establishing a hierachy.

Literally the last thing urgot would want is to be 'ur god ^^

Eternal7911 votes

Though I have a feeling (partially based on his splash art) that he has a bit of a following of loonies that like what he preaches. Plus there's a line of his on the reveal page: "I am stronger than man, stronger than machine, I am an IDEA."

Chembaron Yamada1 votes

One problem with that: If you don't do what he says, you won't survive. ^^

Oleandervine2 votes

Janna is most likely not the only "clap if you believe in fairies" spirit, and in fact, there may be other representations in the game already. Take Kench for example. He's a crossroads demon. A being like him can't exist if people aren't around who resort to invoking him as a last ditch effort. He's a local legend around Bilgewater, and that legend lends him power and gives him the capability to manifest to those who invoke him because they believe they can invoke him.

As of current, he's the only similar spirit champion like Janna. There's some very gray area champions who could end up being spiritual manifestations though. We have Fiddlesticks, Nocturne, Brand, and Shaco who all have very smoky origins and just kinda popped up out of nowhere - the possibility of these champs also being belief driven beings is pretty plausible, and we'll just have to wait and see what the lore brings for them.

Phhase1 votes

Brand is some apocalyptic fire elemental-thing, and Nocturne is some kind of nightmare elemental/extraplanar Fiyhr, but I agree the other two are pretty indistinct.

Oleandervine1 votes

Yes, but their stories are from the old lore, and don't have relationships or ties into the new world that's being crafted. It's pretty safe to say that Brand and Nocturne have obsolete lore, and it will take a corresponding lore event to properly bring them into the fold. Until then, they don't really have places in the new world.

Wrathof3001 votes

Actually Brand and Noc have been mentioned in the new lore, as an apolyptic fire elemental thingy and a nightmare demon thingy, respectively. Their own lores have yet to be fleshed out, but they have been canonically represented in the new lore. Though nocturne is more likely to actually be of the same vein as Tahm kench, evil spirit/ demon, Brand is still much more vague.

Wrathof3001 votes

Kindred would also fall in that boat too, if everything became immortal, then they wouldn't exist anymore.

Oleandervine1 votes

Kindred might - but Kindred embodies something a bit more potent than a belief - they are a flat out force of the universe. Death will always persist, and the probability of everyone becoming immortal will not remove them from existence.

Wrathof3001 votes

It depends on whether Kindred is a force of the universe of a force of Runeterra. Runeterra is special so its innate magic could have resulted in kindred, which is why I point out that she is probably similar to that of Kench and Janna. Though you are correct, if nothing died anymore, Kindred wouldn't necessarily up and disappear, I supposed they would be in a state similar to Janna when people stop praying to her.

Pacothegint2 votes

Considering that Aurelion Sol specifically mentions Kindred it seems that they are a Universal Force. "If Bard and Kindred can pull off wearing a mask, so can I."

Wrathof3001 votes

Aurelion Sol, has been to Runeterra, (imo) if he has canonically encountered Kindred it would probably have been on Runeterra, since their existence is probably due to the magic of Runeterra.

General Jinx1 votes

They do say in jinx's lore that some see her as a "spirit of vengeance " so you might be on to something here... Good work !

SaltyToplaneGoat1 votes

As a character she makes a lot more sense that way, because if she wa sjust some madwoman she would have the character depth of a puddle...

Eternal7911 votes

There's also Warwick's lore that seems to add a lot of depth to her being a mad woman. You can get the gist of it here: https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueofjinx/comments/6l1161/jinx_theory_origins_of_a_maniac_long/

Lõyalty1 votes

So basically Janna is the tooth fairy of rune terra?

SEKAI1 votes

At first there is the problem to why she's the only "divine spirit" showing herself in human form on Runeterra.

Everyone forgot Soraka, who is a god that became mortal thanks to WW.

But I guess her lore is meaningless with WW's rework now.

SaltyToplaneGoat1 votes

My guess on her would be "exiled targonian entity with forced amnesia" - given the "ancient greek" vibe Mt. Targon has going, it wouldn't be a weird story, as gods temporarely being reduced to mere mortals as a punishment or curse, has happened several times.

Aurelion Sol is kinda intrigued by her, so that's the biggest clue to it.

Digielf1 votes

With that body and face that she has she is surely a goddess

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-YL4De9aREms/VDwr5bxJjPI/AAAAAAAAbLo/4Q9JPwAHfq4/s1600/Janna_0.jpg

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