When talking about champion lore strength what do you guys consider important?

The Trent·Feb 12, 2017·2 votes·1,330 views

For example: Everyone says is super weak, because his Yeti and him are two different people. I disagree. Considering can survive in the frejlord and he could tame a Yeti, I think he is really strong. Everyone likes to say is weak just because she's a normal human. I disagree because she's also really smart and a good detective. Everyone likes to say that champions like are super strong, but in my opinion is stronger because at least he's controlled by someone. There's a lot of things to consider when it comes to the strengths of someone. What do you guys think makes a champion the strongest? Also how strong is because I have no idea...

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Ebonmaw DragonFeb 12, 20173 votes

Lulu is by far the strongest being in the universe.

It doesnt matter who you are or what you are, she can turn you into a flower (or a cute animal)... forever. No one is safe.

The TrentFeb 13, 20171 votes

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is by far the strongest being in the universe.

It doesnt matter who you are or what you are, she can turn you into a flower (or a cute animal)... forever. No one is safe.

Your comment made me lol so hard.

EpicurusFeb 13, 20173 votes

These characters have diverse skills and useful traits beyond just "strength". For example, thinking about who is "stronger" out of DrMundo and Caitlyn , Mundo wins in terms of raw power, but Cait is quite capable of outsmarting him, and could potentially catch or kill the good doctor if she had time to set up a trap.

So it depends how you define "strength". Personally, I think about how much of a change they can force onto their surroundings with minimal effort. In this definition, I have to disagree with you about Sol being weaker than Ezreal. If Aurelion Sol decides that Runeterra would look better molten, there is not a damn thing the Targonians can do to stop him anymore.

An interesting case is Kindred . Being literally death means they win against everyone eventually so you could say that they are one of the strongest beings. But they will never take someone's soul before their due time, so at the same time they are the weakest.

The TrentFeb 13, 20172 votes

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These characters have diverse skills and useful traits beyond just "strength". For example, thinking about who is "stronger" out of and , Mundo wins in terms of raw power, but Cait is quite capable of outsmarting him, and could potentially catch or kill the good doctor if she had time to set up a trap.

So it depends how you define "strength". Personally, I think about how much of a change they can force onto their surroundings with minimal effort. In this definition, I have to disagree with you about Sol being weaker than Ezreal. If Aurelion Sol decides that Runeterra would look better molten, there is not a damn thing the Targonians can do to stop him anymore.

An interesting case is . Being literally death means they win against everyone eventually so you could say that they are one of the strongest beings. But they will never take someone's soul before their due time, so at the same time they are the weakest.

True but think about someone like Zilian vs Kindred. Zilian controls time so he can never die. Plus he could like freeze kindred in time forever.

PlacentasFeb 13, 20174 votes

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True but think about someone like Zilian vs Kindred. Zilian controls time so he can never die. Plus he could like freeze kindred in time forever.

Zileans time magic doesn't work like that.

EpicurusFeb 13, 20172 votes

This. In-game abilities aside, Zilean's magic was used to change his own perception of time (he was trying to see the future), but by no means does he control time. He also needs a lore update before anything we can say about him holds merit.

The TrentFeb 14, 20171 votes

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Zileans time magic doesn't work like that.

I remember reading somewhere in lore that Zilian couldn't be killed I think. I don't know about the rest of Zilian tho.

Whyte LyonFeb 12, 20172 votes

Q: When talking about champion lore strength what do you guys consider important?

A: Dont care about the physicality of a champ, its their personality that's the important strength.

P.S. I love your opinion on Nunu; as a child character he is an exceptional individual with as much heart and courage, that's on par with a man more the double his age: Braum.

GreenLoreFeb 13, 20172 votes

So uhm why is Aurelion Sol in your opinion weaker? its not like Aurelion can be controlled because he has a weak will. If the targonians are able to control Aurelion sol with such a device,then it is safe to assume that they could do the same thing with most other champions.

FasmodeyFeb 12, 20171 votes

Durability, Versatility and Destructiveness.

FloRaider42Feb 12, 20171 votes

They like to bring real life physics into it and ignore gameplay.

SharjoFeb 12, 20171 votes

Personally I just put Bard as the defacto strongest because he's the one charged with protecting EVERYTHING in the universe. He also probably knows the most when it comes to how the universe works out of anybody.

That's just how it foctors in for me.

GenoXxFeb 13, 20171 votes

Jhin vs Shen , Zed . In terms of martial arts, I would believe zed and shen beats jhin hands down, even if he does have some martial training from his father's dojo. He did not keep up the practice obviously, instead focused on literature and other keen interest for him. But in terms on intelligence, Jhin is the winner no doubt. The man has traits of an assassin like Agent 47.