Among all the complains, I just wanna say...

Eternal791·Sep 27, 2017·82 votes·11,513 views

I love what you've done with Evelynn Riot. I can't wait to play her.

93 Comments

yeulxSep 27, 20174 votes

yeah i agree.. so many stupid kids or people claiming to be female complaining about how sexualized she is but thats just who the champion is shes also alot more like a succubus wich is what i think riots original vision was suppose to be Pain, torment. pleasure

Eternal791Sep 27, 201717 votes

I mean, I not every champion needs to be super sexualized, but Evelynn would probably be super boring if she wasn't. I really like what they did with her model and vo to really push for the succubus feel.

yeulxSep 27, 20173 votes

well yes not every champion needs to be super sexualized i agree with that but thats just kinda eves thing and normally riot doesnt so its good to see atleast like 1 champion in the entire game can have it.... kinda like the the widowmaker of overwatch even tho ive never played ow in my life

Eternal791Sep 27, 20177 votes

Exactly my point. A non sexual Eve wouldn't be Eve at all.

FearlessCreatorSep 27, 20171 votes

yes she would.

Eternal791Sep 27, 20174 votes

Even old Eve was a bit sexual in the way she enjoyed inflicting pain.

lofi n chillhopSep 27, 201733 votes

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yeah i agree.. so many stupid kids or people claiming to be female complaining about how sexualized she is but thats just who the champion is shes also alot more like a succubus wich is what i think riots original vision was suppose to be Pain, torment. pleasure

I'm female and I don't find her sexualized at all lol. she's a killer not a fucker. it's so hilarious how everyone is falling for her charm, not realizing that sex was never on the plate - their tortured death was

[sg-miss-fortune]

I can't wait to play her

Eternal791Sep 27, 20177 votes

Actually Reav3 said as a demon she needs to fulfill certain needs before she can actually kill her victims. Now whether that need is simply their lust or actually doing it with them (I think that's somewhat implied by the nature of her VO and the fact that she's a succubus), we don't really know for sure.

RiotReav3Sep 27, 201740 votes

It's actually in her VO. All she requires is a touch with intent. She doesn't have sex with anyone, it's all just a trap. Once you touch her, it's already to late for you.

AbiwonKenabiSep 27, 20173 votes

Does a "touch with intent" imply it can't just be casual touch, like a handshake, it has to be a "let's find somewhere quiet, boo" kind of touch?

Chromatic EagleSep 27, 20175 votes

"Intent" so probably the latter.

Velzard of KozSep 27, 201710 votes

Evelynn, the Consent's Embrace

AbiwonKenabiSep 27, 20177 votes

I know right? I was thinking that was pretty chivalrous for a blood thirsty demon.

SplisionSep 27, 20175 votes

To be fair TahmKench won't devour whatever is most precious to you if you don't make a deal with him in the first place.

LankPantsSep 27, 20171 votes

But what if I survive the first lashing? Do my odds go up or?

Velzard of KozSep 27, 20173 votes

Depends on whether your Void staff got up or not from it

Velzard of KozSep 27, 20173 votes

People are already making theories about 7 deadly sins demons and while you seem to not wanting to confirm anything, theoretically, would these be just inspirations for champions who aren't connected together or is there some kind of origin and plan (possibly connected to Darkin), something that all demons share despite their different origins and intents? And theoretically speaking, is Tahm representing gluttony or greed? And theoretically speaking, are Noc and Shaco demons, too? And theoretically speaking, how many champions from existing one would you plan on demonifying with their VGUs (besides Veigar and Teemo :^) )

RiotReav3Sep 27, 201729 votes

Demons do not represent the seven deadly sins. Demons origins are similar but very different than Darkin. I have no idea what Noc or Shaco are and we don't plan out ahead of time what direction we will take our VGUs, the team working on them once they start will figure that out. I can see a lot of different directions you could take Noc and Shaco.

FasmodeySep 27, 20171 votes

Isn't that so easy for Evelynn to seduce her preys? "Just one touch with desire".

Also does it mean her charm is not magical but more a like real woman? Otherwise, I don't know who can even survive her. One touch with desire easiness + magical, irresistible attraction = certain death gg.

If her charm is not magical, does it mean she can't seduce people who have no interest in women?

RiotReav3Sep 27, 201719 votes

The in-game interactions are meant to be gameplay interpretations of her theme, not be taken that literal. She charms people with her looks in the lore, but that doesn't translate well into game so instead she has a charm mechanic. Much like Tham doesn't really have to make actual contracts with people in the game to ear them.

SolideusSep 27, 20179 votes

Well it's up to you if you want to be sloppy with the paperwork; I for one always read carefully through and sign the contract in all the proper places before I enter the Kench.

RiotReav3Sep 27, 201718 votes

[sg-miss-fortune]

kasfasSep 27, 20172 votes

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Much like Tham doesn't really have to make actual contracts with people in the game to ear them.

Because we all know that's why he has those massive ears. Earing people is the name of the game!

EROTIC RAID BOSSSep 27, 20172 votes

when you guys do the aatrox rework, you should consider packaging it with some new lore for him and darkin in general

GreenLoreSep 29, 20171 votes

But wasn't Nocturne the demon from the demacia story?Doesn't that confirm that he is a demon? Or would you be ready to retcon this lore piece once Nocturne gets a VGU?

Though then again,the demacians might have simply mistaken him for a demon,so I guess this isn't a problem as long as you keep Nocturne as a living nightmare,which is rather unlikely to change.

RiotReav3Sep 29, 20173 votes

Correct. The Demacians believed he was a demon but that doesn't mean he actually is, that doesn't mean he isn't either

Chromatic EagleSep 29, 20171 votes

So he's a mysterious champion with a mysterious history?

patmax17Sep 29, 20171 votes

That's a very sensible observation, but remember also that with eve's rework, her short story that was released recently-ish isn't canon anymore, so it might well be that that story with Nocturne is made non-canon once Nocturne is given a new lore

GreenLoreSep 29, 20172 votes

Well but Eves short story came out with a note that clarified from the get go,that the story isn't going to remain canon. http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/riot-games/editorial/note-shadows-beckon

patmax17Sep 29, 20171 votes

Oh, tanks, I wasn't aware of that clarification!

Another thing that comes to my mind is that IIRC the "shadow" in Lux' lore was confirmed to be Nocturne by a Rioter, it's never said in the lore. That way, they can change up Nocturne and still have the story canon, with the shadow thing not being Nocturne anymore, but still being what Lux fought in that battle....? (unsure)

But then again, there's actually no reason why Riot shouldn't decide on a case-by-case basis about this kind of stuff, I know it's good to have expectations matching the outcome, but I can think of being happy with the story remaining canon for Nocturne or not, as long as the change makes sense and is developed well ^^

GreenLoreSep 29, 20171 votes

Well a rioter did confirm that the shadow is actually Nocturne,so they'd had to go back on their word,which would also be kinda bad for the trust between the rioters and the fans.

Variks the LoyalSep 27, 20172 votes

Similar to how Tahm Kench needs to be 'let in.'

Interesting.

Warlord DienekesSep 27, 201712 votes

So what I'm getting from this is Vayne's parents wanted a threesome.

Jeddy017Sep 27, 20173 votes

Maybe it was getting a little stale in bed & they wanted to spice things up ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°).

Mysticman89Sep 27, 20172 votes

So how do demons reproduce? Or for that matter, do they reproduce?

MogarlSep 27, 20172 votes

What about in the case of Vayne hunting Evelynn down? Can Evelynn fight back, or does she just have to flee from someone who is hunting her? Can Evelynn do anything to people that don't touch her with intent?

Larius01Oct 1, 20172 votes

I would think that 'intent' does not necessarily refer to sexual intentions. So if someone would slap Evelynn in the face that is also a touch with intent. But the intent is to hurt her. And so fullfulling the requirements for Evelynn to show them the proper way to slap someone.

CorriandrSep 28, 20172 votes

So, she can't do anything or harm the individual until they touch her with intent? Based on what Eve uses, I'm guessing that it is a touch fueled by desire?

If that's right, then...Oh my, that has some interesting implications for Vayne's parents, then.

RiotReav3Sep 28, 20175 votes

Yes it does :)

Evelynn can be very...persuasive.

yeulxSep 28, 20171 votes

tho reav3 you wouldnt happen to know if riot is fixing tango evelynn would you >.> splash vs ingame model the coloration is so far off

RiotReav3Sep 28, 20172 votes

We are making adjustment, yes

SiachiSep 28, 20171 votes

On the topic of skins, would you happen to know if there's any discussion with Masquerade Evelynn? I'm sure model changes take quite a bit longer to make than texture changes, but a lot of the people I've heard from have issues with how big her hair is in this skin.

RiotReav3Sep 28, 20176 votes

We are looking into that as well

nosafterburnSep 28, 20172 votes

they just don't understand it's to get the attention of Beekeeper Singed.

yeulxSep 28, 20171 votes

ok cool ty for telling me ;3 cant wait to play her let alone to see what future skins they make for her since the design department is doing 10/10 tho i hope oneday we see like a cyber eve (project eve)

RiotReav3Sep 28, 20176 votes

Project Eve would be so amazing. Gotta go beg the skins team :)

Shadow HazardSep 28, 20172 votes

Is there going to be any response to the outcry about the total removal of AD scaling from evelynn's kit?

LunSeiSleideeSep 27, 20174 votes

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I'm female and I don't find her sexualized at all lol.

Yeah, sure, she is absolutely not sexualized. I REALLY cannot see how people may get that idea. She really gets the killing part across, not the sex part.

But congrats, you showed'em boys you are a cool girl they can like, not an angry SJW.

lofi n chillhopSep 27, 20173 votes

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Yeah, sure, she is absolutely not sexualized. I REALLY cannot see how people may get that idea. She really gets the killing part across, not the sex part.

But congrats, you showed'em boys you are a cool girl they can like, not an angry SJW.

it's cause they read the lines into sex, they are after all classic innuendos. but if you actually pay attention to the rest of the things she says, that's when the killer she really is becomes realized - it's actually kinda exciting :3 totally fantasy of course, actually killing actual people is very unappealing. but for fantasy shit, death is a lovely thing to consume

[sg-jinx]

I'm soo very satisfied with her VO because of how well they use classic sexual innuendo lines to actually mean something else entirely