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Who the pale man might be...

Rito Staff··2 votes·1,036 views

Yin Yang are the opposites that allow each other to exist. Together they Are. There is no ultimate separation between what is living and what is not. Ultimately everything just Is.

What Is Life? Is Death Real?

So, who/what was and is before the Yin and Yang, before the split?

The lonely union, with no problems.

The pale man is 'God' - Everyhing that there was and is. Ultimately God is alone. God is not someone, or something. "God Is" or just Isness, or just Beingness fits too. Each person experiences itself as a separate entity because of the mind which separates things. You need it to function and do things, you need contrast. Would you seek good without bad? If you were pefectly fine where you are now, would you go around to do stuff?

(Supposedly, in enlightenment, which is "Non-dual awareness" you experience the state being where there is no "me" and the "out there", there is only Beingness.)

PS: I don't know why people say that the Lamb n' the Wolf are death. The wolf is death. The lamb is life. The real question is who is the pale man. This might help you understand my guess.

9 Comments

Fredgerd4 votes

Whoa... Someone's getting all Heideggarian up in this.

I agree that the death interpretation is a bit simplistic and doesn't quite fit. At the same time, this is Riot's lore team. Everything is horribly inconsistant and backgrounds are often depressingly underdeveloped. Getting a bit better recently but... Anyway, I wouldn't be surprised if it was just death, boring as that would be. Pale man as in the pale horseman. All people must meet it.

Personally I'm hoping for fate though. Fate would be a much more interesting answer and and much more unique concept. Lamb is the past, wolf is what is to come. Thus why wolf asks lamb to tell it a story. But again, its probably just death....

Rito Staff1 votes

haha. Dunno that guy :p More like Alan Wattarian xD (though by reading mainly J. Krishnamurti and Eckarth Tolle I'm pretty sure they are all talking about the same) just like Heidegger I guess =p

Yeh I prefer it being Fate as I tried to make sense of it now and it was harder (as opposed to the pale man being Death... which doesn't fit imo).

Pale man with dark hair could be a grave digger (although we already have one, and I don't think it is). Since people only go to the graveyard to visit the dead. Making the dead, the ones who meet him at the graveyard, being the ones who shun him. So he's used to talk to himself and developed a split-personality.

Ebonmaw Dragon1 votes

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Personally I'm hoping for fate though. Fate would be a much more interesting answer and and much more unique concept. Lamb is the past, wolf is what is to come. Thus why wolf asks lamb to tell it a story. But again, its probably just death....

So... the new champion will be TwistedFate!

Inphernal1 votes

I think they did a pretty good job with Tahm's lore. Doubt they'll cop-out with the pale guy being Death.

Rito Staff1 votes

Ye hopefully not :c because "Death splitting itself into Lamb(life) and Wolf(death)" doesn't make sense to me :p

Stars Shaper1 votes

But how would you put the verse "All things must come to him" if only he existed before he split himself?

Fortunally Riot has always depicted completely unforseeable characters when they wanted to keep them "secret". Just look at Bard, we'd made all the wieldest guesses and still ended up with something we could not anticipate. So any over semplification or any concrete guess is just too early for me.

I do not think though that he.. they are going to be an allmighty entity but rather something more subtle that permeates the lives of Runeterra.

Rito Staff1 votes

haha funny thing that Beingness is not almighty, but is inside us all. Or rather, we are It.

I'm going to edit my post because I can explain that "All things must meet this man" through my lenses!

Stars Shaper1 votes

The allmighty part was in part favoring your view on the matter because I wanted to say "It's not going to be death itself" and in part because I do believe also it's not God either, but I see that your focus is Beingness which would be a right choice.

I can agree with most fo what you've written in your explanation. But it's pretty safe to assume that he start assuming the lamb&wolf "forms" after others shunned him, avoiding him it's not a consequence of the dual aspect of the pale man but the cause of it's split.

GenoXx1 votes

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