Updated Shurima Lore Doesn't Answer Major Questions.

Virgin Ray·12/20/2015, 9:52:47 PM·3 votes·863 views

-How is even alive? It said she is related to and is the last bloodline. had no children or wife because he was a kid because specifically calls him boy who chased the sun. Even then if was somehow an adult with children, shouldn't they all be destroyed? -How is there still a tomb of emperors? Wasn't it all destroyed when became ascended? -How come is never mentioned in the lore of and ? Shouldn't he be protecting the tomb of emperors the two girls both nonchalantly traveled to? -Who made the tomb for ? Everyone back then got obliterated by . -What are the dangers of doing the ascension ritual when the empire is not in trouble? -If 's ascension was flawed and destroyed everything and everyone, shouldn't he be destroyed as well?

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GreenLore12/20/2015, 11:43:44 PM2 votes

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-How is even alive? It said she is related to and is the last bloodline. had no children or wife because he was like around 8-12 because specifically calls him boy who chased the sun. Even then if was somehow an adult with children, shouldn't they all be destroyed?

Seriously did you even bother to read azirs lore? It explicitly mentions that Azir had a wife and children(also it would not make sense for azir to be resurrected as an adult man,if he was still a child during xeraths ascension),though it also says that they died during xeraths ascension,but it is pointed out that somehow azirs lineage must have continued,so it is most likely something that will be shown later on.

-How is there still a tomb of emperors? Wasn't it all destroyed when became ascended?

Its not like xerath nuked the whole country,he caused lots of destruction,but that doesn't mean everything got destroyed. In fact Xerath was imprisoned within the tomb,so it was definetly still intact when xerath was chained into the sarcophagus

-How come is never mentioned in the lore of and ? Shouldn't he be protecting the tomb of emperors the two girls both nonchalantly traveled to?

He protects something that lies underground,it is never said that he protects the tomb of the emporers,he might be just protecting his home or something else

-Who made the tomb for ? Everyone back then got obliterated by .

There is no tomb for azir.The tomb of the emporers existed already during azirs rule.Its just the place where azir was resurrected.

-What are the dangers of doing the ascension ritual when the empire is not in trouble?

We don't know,it might be what Xeraths ascension caused,or simply make the deity that is granting ascension angry. After all ascension is normally granted,not taken,it seems more like a deity gives power to a mortal through the sun disc. The ascension ritual is probably a way to tell the deity that they need an ascended now and if they don't have a valid reason for that the deity might be displeased.

-If 's ascension was flawed and destroyed everything and everyone, shouldn't he be destroyed as well?

Xeraths ascension wasn't flawed,it was modified. Xerath used his arcane knowledge to manipulate the ascension ritual in a way that he could take more power for himself. It destroyed lots of stuff around him,but he himself wasn't destroyed(at least it looks that way,there are also theories that xerath wouldn't have survived if he wasn't caught in the sarcophagus),in fact the destructive energy most likely came from xeraths body,so its not like he was in harms way. And its not like it destroyed everything,(nasus and Renekton were pretty close to the ritual,but weren't harmed)

Maple Crusader12/20/2015, 10:00:46 PM2 votes

Xerath called Azir "the boy who chased the sun" as an insult, implying the emperor's naivety. Azir was a grown adult by the time he did his Ascension ritual.

He also had a wife and kids.

As for Azir's tomb, it could have been possible that the tomb was made for him during his lifetime. I think Nasus buried Azir's ashes. The tomb of emperors must have survived the blast because it was built underground.

Xerath didn't get blown up because he took Azir's Ascension, and took on a form which could survive the explosion.

As for Sivir's relation to Azir, perhaps her ancestor had an affair with Azir, but stayed out of City of Shurima during the explosion? Rulers often do have mistresses and illegitimate children.

My guess about the possible issues with using ascension ritual would be that the person who is elevated becomes infertile, or unable to reproduce with humans.

Ralanr12/20/2015, 9:58:27 PM1 votes

Was it updated recently?

Fasmodey12/20/2015, 11:22:00 PM1 votes

Xerath should be immune to arcane energy. The Arcane Energy Blast that destroyed Shurima was probably nothing to him.

Xulsigae12/21/2015, 8:39:42 AM1 votes

There's no evidence he had a harem nor any children or relatives who weren't in his immediate family. His lack of connection to Sivir is a deliberately done plot hole by Riot that fails to generate any mystery.

Sharjo12/20/2015, 11:00:27 PM1 votes

-How is even alive?

Bard probably. If anyone's gonna be saving bloodlines for the sake of the future itself, it's him.

-How is there still a tomb of emperors? Wasn't it all destroyed when became ascended

The people were annihilated, but the city wasn't blown off the map. The tomb was located way below anything on the surface, so it would've been mostly safe from the disaster above.

Skarner question

Because he's not guarding the tomb of the emperors. He's guarding the crystal scar, which is miles and miles to the north east of the capital city.

Who made the tomb

Shurimans did ages ago to house their long dead emperors. It's a TOMB. Of the EMPERORS. Not the EMPEROR. It was made long before Azir was born.

If Xerath's ascension was flawed and destroyed everything and everyone, shouldn't he be destroyed as well?

Not necessarily; we don't know the exact details as to how the Ascension took shape when Xerath got a hold of the power, so there's nothing to indicate he was ever at risk of dying from the ritual to begin with.

FloRaider4212/20/2015, 10:12:22 PM1 votes

-How is even alive? It said she is related to and is the last bloodline. had no children or wife because he was like around 8-12 because specifically calls him boy who chased the sun. Even then if was somehow an adult with children, shouldn't they all be destroyed?

Monarchs have harems -> lots of offsprings -> some have left earlier Being from the same bloodline doesn't mean she is his descendant, as his relatives who may have reigned other kingdoms would count as well.

-How is there still a tomb of emperors? Wasn't it all destroyed when became ascended?

Even nukes don't destroy everything so there was probably enough left.

-How come is never mentioned in the lore of and ? Shouldn't he be protecting the tomb of emperors the two girls both nonchalantly traveled to?

Sivir is, as already mentioned of the royal bloodline, so most sentient traps would let her pass.

-Who made the tomb for ? Everyone back then got obliterated by .

Nasus and Renekton trapped Xerath and if they survived other would have too.

-What are the dangers of doing the ascension ritual when the empire is not in trouble?

Don't really know what u mean :I

-If 's ascension was flawed and destroyed everything and everyone, shouldn't he be destroyed as well?

Even if flawed it's still an Ascension so it transformed him and (not really clear) as a result/ as a side effect/ as requirement destroyed everything else