Help me, I am starting to feel League is not a game for me.

LunSeiSleidee·Aug 23, 2017·7 votes·3,788 views

Now this is going to be blunt, but..... overly anime-themed Star Guardian skins. People asking for more villains (something that feels typical of edgy teen players). Comics like the Darius one which pretend to be deep but would be considered deep only by a 15 years old.

I am an adult who loves League. But recently, this forum and the latest game additions make me feel this game is absolutely not aimed at adults.

Help me out, I am starting to feel out of place....

74 Comments

KuroCaliberAug 23, 20177 votes

Here's what you need to do, to make your League experience more enjoyable: Stop viewing things linearly. Part of the problem you face is you extrapolating three champion releases in a roster of 138.

Just because champions from Ionia do not suit your fancy doesn't mean that League is going in a "bad direction." That is the definition of a slippery slope fallacy. It may just be League trying to include a certain demographic. In this case, it was those who are in love at a younger age (Xayah and Rakan), and those who love seeing cold-hearted badasses (Kayn). Their designs have an eastern or "anime" influence as you put it, because their region is Ionia.

You were blessed with a continuous two year time period in which every champion released was perfect for you. However, it is wrong for you to say you personally deserve to be catered to. Perhaps people disliked bard because he never had a voiceline that wasn't musical, or perhaps they hated Aurelion Sol for not being Ao Shin. I personally hated it when Diana got a blood moon skin, and I complained about it. Guess what? It didn't change a thing, because more people wanted the skin. But life still went on and I found new things to adore. I get that you don't like anime, or that you don't like "edge" because you certainly sound like a thirty-some world-weary adult, but they are players too, and they deserve champions that they can cherish just as much as you do.

Now onto skin lines. You complained HEAVILY about Star guardians, but have you considered the rest of the skins that Riot released this year? Arcade, Lancer Zero, Pentakill, Omega Squad, SKT, VS. skins, Soul Hunter, Chemtech, Pulsefire, Cosmic, Dreadnova, God Fist, Toy Set, Dragon Sorceress/Slayer, Festival, Heartseeker, and blood moon. Because Riot releases one, maybe two (if you count blood moon) "anime themed" skin sets, suddenly everything else is useless? Are you seriously saying that they have no variety? I think that that particular point you made is completely asinine. Maybe you feel out of place with Star guardian, and hey, for the most part, so do I, because I don't any hold special love for the magic girl genre. Except to a bias such as yours, all anime is the same, and holds no value, or meaning. I think you need to reevaluate exactly which demographic you want to protest against, because honestly, I think you're using some vicious stereotypes to generalize the anime community.

Finally onto my last point: you seem to think that league follows a single path, when in reality, it's a bunch of parallel paths that complete at different times. Star guardian skins were in development at the same time that the Omega Squad skins were being worked on. Just because one path doesn't lead where you want it to doesn't mean the entirety of the company is following that path. If you want all the paths to point in the direction you choose, I think we all can see who is actually being immature here.

You only either post to complain about content that you don't agree with, or praise new content for specifically not being the content you disagreed with. I think that that behavior, especially in an adult is incredibly immature. Furthermore, you usually rebuff counterarguments with the same rhetoric: either by ignoring/acting indifferent when you can't come up with a proper response, or devolving into self pity, ie. "you're saying I should uninstall because I'm too old." The few times you actually do offer some useful suggestions, they're usually paired with some heavy criticisms of what you disagree with, ie "make champions like bard, Camille, and Aurelion Sol and not edgy weeb champs like Kayn." That's not positive feedback, that's demonizing previous work. It's this manner of speaking that incentivizes people to disagree (read flame) with you, even if you actually have a valid request. You've made a false dilemma: either you agree with me and are a mature player, or you disagree with me and you're either an edgy child, weeb trash, or immature. That is a change you need to make within yourself before you can start telling others how they should think.

TLDR; three champions and one skin line don't define all of league nor do they represent the entirety of Riot's future plans. You need to stop viewing these as a step by step progression of events and start realizing that different teams work on different content simultaneously with deadlines that they reach one-by-one. Stop demonizing both Riot and the players who enjoy characters like Kayn, Xayah and Rakan, and stop pretending like Star Guardian Skins define future skin releases. Every skin or champ is not going to appeal to you, just as it isn't going to appeal to me; find what you love, and cherish it for existing. Don't criticize others for what they love and the content they want because it exists. They deserve it just as much as you, and don't get me wrong, YOU DO DESERVE IT. It's just that every dog has its day, and this time, it was Star Guardian fans.

LunSeiSleideeAug 24, 20172 votes

TyrekGoldenspearAug 24, 20174 votes

If you are not willing to listen to somebody, then why do you expect that courtesy to be extended to you?

LunSeiSleideeAug 25, 20172 votes

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If you are not willing to listen to somebody, then why do you expect that courtesy to be extended to you?

His post progessively became more and more insulting towards me.

Be thankful I decided not to waste my time insulting him back.

KuroCaliberAug 25, 20175 votes

Oh really? And I suppose that calling people who like villains or anime inspired designs immature children makes you a paragon of respect

Sp33d Zer0Aug 23, 20176 votes

If you feel like this forum makes you feel like the game is not aimed at adults, then don't go on the forums. The league of legends reddit tends to have a lot better discussion anyways, as well as more varied discussion than "OMG THIS THING THAT JUST KILLED ME LAST GAME IS SO OP!" or "OMG MARKSMAN ARE SO OP" etc. etc.

You have to remember league of legends is a game that is designed to hit a very wide audience. Sure we have the star guardian line (which is a reference to an old cartoon for those of us in our 20s) but we also have the dark star skin line which is gaining traction, and eternium is getting a new addition as well. If you do not enjoy a skin, you are by no means obligated to buy it. If you do not enjoy a champion I would suggest just buying it for the sake of trading it, and then not playing them at all. All of these are your choices.

If you love the game, than by all means, play the game! You don't have to peruse the boards in order to play the game, this is simply a side section of the LoL franchise. If you do want to keep up to date on the lore and such though, I would heavily recommend Necrit. https://www.youtube.com/user/Necrit94

At the end of the day, it sounds like it is the community on the boards, and not the game itself that is isolating you. I would say remove the problem and keep the enjoyment.

LunSeiSleideeAug 23, 20171 votes

Thank you for this reply.

I will try to ignore this forum, although, this being the official forum, I am worried the devs pay attention to the kind of things discussed here.

PhelasAug 23, 20171 votes

This forum doesn't add anything.

Here is no content besides the circlejerk about whatever is considered "busted" right now. Reddit isn't really that much better, but at least it is kind of entertaining and the reds, meaning Rioters, rather look there for discussions than here, this forum is just a shade of what could have been, I mean, there are SO many boards, OCE, NA, EUW, even seperate languages have their own boards, the user are divided, and yeah.

General speaking tho, the devs don't really give a damn about whats posted either here or on reddit, and thats a good thing, since in 80% of the cases the "board & reddit balancing" is beyond stupid.

To add to your other point, of course it's not targeted soley on adults, no video game really is, because the majority of gamers is between 14 and ~ 25. But one can't make it right for everyone, some like the Star Guardian skins, some find them hillarious (I do, i giggle everytime because of how overly girlish they are and how out of place they occour), some hate them. It's not Riots job to make you like their game, it's all on you, your taste and your decisions. You may take a break and evaluate why you picked up the game in the first place!

Have a nice day.

LunSeiSleideeAug 23, 20171 votes

I don't need to take a break to find out why I picked up this game: I know why I picked up this game. It's because it has a chess-like gameplay which is always the same yet always different, it's because there's so many characters that I can always try something new, and it's because I like the art style which for a moment looked like it was improving and maturing.

Jeddy017Aug 23, 20175 votes

What's there to help you with? We can't make you like all this stuff that turns you off & we can't make that stuff go away. There's only 2 options really:

A) Ignore the stuff that's unappealing & focus on what you enjoy. B) Accept that this game is no longer for you & find something else that actually appeals to you.

There's (sort of) a 3rd option of pushing Riot to make more of the stuff that you find appealing. That's not a bad option. It's probably not a feasible one, but it's still an option. Although there's still going to plenty of the stuff that you find unappealing.

LunSeiSleideeAug 23, 20173 votes

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There's (sort of) a 3rd option of pushing Riot to make more of the stuff that you find appealing. That's not a bad option. It's probably not a feasible one, but it's still an option. Although there's still going to plenty of the stuff that you find unappealing.

Here's the thing. If I say I'm tired of all these Star Guardian skins, or that I don't want more 2edgy4you character types, I just get downvoted.

So how do I push Riot to make a little more or what I like?

RiotBioluminescenceAug 23, 201714 votes

{quoted}

Here's the thing. If I say I'm tired of all these Star Guardian skins, or that I don't want more 2edgy4you character types, I just get downvoted.

So how do I push Riot to make a little more or what I like?

Well, what do you like? You mentioned that 'for a moment' it was going in the direction you preferred. What moment was that? Tell us what you like and we will listen. Doesn't mean that you can just throw out a wishlist of stuff and it'll magically appear, but simply saying "Nah, I don't like that - try again." is the least actionable feedback we can get :)

What have you liked in the past? What would you like to see more of?

LunSeiSleideeAug 23, 20176 votes

I feel listened to!! :D

Well, first off, I am not asking to suddenly stop releasing stuff like the Star Guardians or such. Yes, I do not like them at all, but there is nothing wrong if other people want those.

The point is that, in the past, I felt League was a game which catered to kids and adults alike. In these recent updates, however, I have a feeling the game started to steer more on focusing over teens and preteens only.

The years 2015 and 2016 were the golden time of League for my tastes. All the new Champions released over that two years span had creative visual designs which felt, how can I put it.... more mature. Instead, 2017 saw one awful champion release after the other. Each of the Champions released in 2017 felt more juvenile in design and far less creative. The gameplay is always good; but the visuals regressed to a somewhat generic anime stuff.

Kayn does not look like he belongs in the same game as Tahm Kench. I understand that the whole point is appealing to a wide range of different tastes. So Kayn in itself is not an issue at all. But why did 2015-2016 bring all characters I liked, and 2017 brought no character I liked? It felt as if something has changed.

RalanrAug 23, 20171 votes

What are your thoughts on Ornn?

LunSeiSleideeAug 25, 20171 votes

Someone mentioned it in another thread. He sort of looks like he was designed by a child. He also kinda reminds me of Warcraft.

RalanrAug 25, 20172 votes

But you like Tahm Kench just fine?

Blood MagicksAug 23, 20172 votes

I agree about the drop in maturity. I have high hopes for Swain though, I think he will be full of subtlety and depth.

Chromatic EagleAug 23, 20172 votes

What do you all define as mature?

Blood MagicksAug 24, 20174 votes

Stories that get better the more you think about them. Psychological depth, convincing motivations, natural yet intelligent dialogue, narrative breaking free from established norms.

I have seen a recent decrease in maturity, however I don't think things are going to stay that way.

Chromatic EagleAug 24, 20171 votes

I'll have to ask what stories so far you consider mature then.

Blood MagicksAug 24, 20171 votes

I'd say Taliyah, Aurelion and Sion are conceptually pretty deep and beautiful.

Chromatic EagleAug 24, 20171 votes

Taliyah I think is fair, but as much as I enjoy Sion, from what we got I'm not sure I can call that mature. I love Sol, but his story is told from the view of an egotistical being.

Blood MagicksAug 24, 20171 votes

The amazing Black Rose dialogue and the epic amount of Noxian history hinted makes him one of my favourites. Also, he is very clearly inspired by a certain game of thrones character who comes back to life in a sinister way :)

HalfTangibleAug 24, 20171 votes

What do you all define as mature?

Stories that get better the more you think about them.

Huh.

Good answer.

RiotBioluminescenceAug 23, 20174 votes

{quoted} ... The years 2015 and 2016 were the golden time of League for my tastes. All the new Champions released over that two years span had creative visual designs which felt, how can I put it.... more mature. Instead, 2017 saw one awful champion release after the other. Each of the Champions released in 2017 felt more juvenile in design and far less creative. The gameplay is always good; but the visuals regressed to a somewhat generic anime stuff.

So, looking back at the releases from 2015 to 2016, we have:

Bard
Ekko
Tahm Kench
Kindred
Illaoi
Jhin
Aurelion Sol
Taliyah
Kled
Ivern
Camille

You've implied that you liked Tahm Kench (maybe? Maybe I infer too much) but how else do you rate these, according to your tonal tastes. Many would say that tonally, Kled is a world away from Illaoi, who is a world away from Bard, for example. Is there a common thread tying the ones you felt were more your style?

Then, of course, we're comparing skins to champs. You're not a fan of the Star Guardians - that's totally cool - but is there a skin line, or set of skin lines you do enjoy seeing more of? (I know lots of other players have posted threads on skin lines they'd like to see revisited - not sure if you've contributed to those conversations or not.)

I am also interested in whether or not you've been keeping up with some of the longer form stories, or if that's not your jam. You mentioned that the Darius, Blood of Noxus, comic didn't satisfy, and that's fine, but were there other stories in the past that scratched that itch? How about Burning Tides and Shadow and Fortune? Bloodlines? The For Demacia story, or the ones from Piltover and Zaun? If any of those were closer to your preferences, call em out so we know what length, maturity level, tone, style, etc. gets closer to your preferences.

LunSeiSleideeAug 23, 20174 votes

When I said I like all the champions of 2015 and 2016, I do mean I like all of them!! Perhaps the issue is that after two years of always seeing new releases that I appreciated without a single miss, it felt weird to me to get a 2017 with all releases I don't like. I got used to the idea I was going to like every new character, regardless of wether I'd love them and play them (Tahm or Taliyah) or just appreciate them even if I don't play them personally (Kindred or Ekko).

If I try to think about what made such a difference, it's that all of the 2017 releases look more cliché both in concept and in visuals. Xayah and Rakan and Kayn are more or less typical anime people; none of the 2015-2016 releases looked that canonically stereotyped. Of course, this is a game which in the past had decidedly anime-looking characters, so it's not something new. But I guess the 2015-2016 period spoiled me particularly.

All in all, I don't mind if I don't like a champion because I can always like another. Obviously I couldn't ask for every character to appeal to me. But it's the weird occurence of two years of designs I liked versus one year of designs I don't like which baffled me.

Story-wise, I don't appreciate sudden lore changes, even if I can see how they make sense in improving the narrative and making it more entwined and coherent. So while it was baffling to me at first to see Warwick switch from magical werewolf created by Soraka to biochemical werewolf created by Singed, I can't really complain about it as I can see the logic behind the decision.

If I were to say which story I liked the most.... I don't know if it counts as a story since it was an audio file, but I reeeally like the Tahm Kench fairy tale told by Tahm Kench himself (sidenote, I listened to it in the Italian dubs because I'm a fan of localizations - but I'm guessing the English dubs were the same!). Just a few years ago I had a thing for fairy tales. I read a looot of them and I read essays on them. It probably came as a reminiscence of my childhood: when I was little, I had these vinil discs which narrated fairy tales, and I would sit on the floor and listen to them again and again for hours. And then many years later, I listen to the Tahm Kench story and it's the same. It follows the structure and the deepest intricacies of fairy tales. And it's narrated too, just like those vinyl discs I had as a child. So you see, it's things like that which make me appreciate League so much. It feels like there's a depth, a study, to the atmosphere and characters. I like it when characters are an exercise of style, wits and creativity, that can be appreciated both by those who simply want a "cool" character and by those who want to look at a character concept like a little work of art.

And then I see Kayn or Xayah and sure there is a study behind those characters, but for some reason I call that study "cold marketing". Maybe I'm being unjust only because I don't like them. Surely there must have been marketing behind Tahm or such as well, but I didn't see it, while I can see the marketing behind the 2017 releases too clearly for my tastes.

EDIT: I got so very, very talkative that I omitted the discussion about skin/skin lines. Personally, I like skins which change a character's concept, so I end up playing someone I wasn't interested in playing before. I don't like Hecarim as some ghost knight who reminds me of DotA2; I like him as a cyborg rainbow unicorn centaur (afterwards I discovered it referenced a game called Robot Unicorn Attack; but all I knew is that cyber robot unicorn felt more interesting). I already love Nidalee as a coguar (sabretooth tiger?) but I LOVE her as an alien huntress. I really don't like how silly Caitlyn looks, but Pulsefire Caitlyn is such a badass. And so on. I like it when a skin gives a very different interpretation of the character.

I don't like skin lines (star guardians etc.) as I think they limit creativity; but if they're so popular I guess I can accept them.

.....Sorry for how awfully long this reply was. Well maybe it goes to show my passion for this game!

Poop JellyAug 23, 20173 votes

If I may, can I have permission to comment on what you would like to see.

I get it very clearly that you aren't fond with the direction of champions having characteristics/artist like they were transferred from anime/cute-edgy stuffs.

You kept mentioning you wanted to see "mature" things. I think mature is a very vague and broad word that you may want to elaborate for us to understand. Do you mean mature as in "Call of Duty" with war-like characteristics and justice vs. evil theme or mature as in sex-appeal, etc. "Mature" can be interpreted by THOUSANDS of ways, similar to the word "cool". You have the right to say it as specific as possible so I encourage you to don't be vague and let your ideas fly.

LunSeiSleideeAug 24, 20171 votes

You do understand sex appeal or Blood&Gore are some time the opposite of mature? And how can one even claim Call Of Duty has mature themes?

Poop JellyAug 24, 20171 votes

In a sense, both of those things are not very child-like so they could be interpreted as mature. IDK why I threw CoD there LOL. I was just trying to connect maybe it's those military/war theme that you would like to see.

RiotBioluminescenceAug 23, 20175 votes

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.....Sorry for how awfully long this reply was. Well maybe it goes to show my passion for this game!

Thank you for the detailed response!

I've sent your concerns over to the League team. Please understand that it's just one point of view among many, but it's good to hear all perspectives whenever you can.

I particularly respect your opinion on changing the biographies of champs (you referenced Warwick). It's always so dangerous to change something that's been established in the past, so I am especially impressed in your ability to evaluate the changes with a level head. We win some, we lose some, but I hope we can get better (and eventually get past this phase!)

Also really cool to hear about your childhood narrated fairy tale experiences. Do you have any that you'd recommend? I like reading myths and fairy tales from around the world.

EschetonAug 24, 20172 votes

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Well, what do you like? You mentioned that 'for a moment' it was going in the direction you preferred. What moment was that? Tell us what you like and we will listen. Doesn't mean that you can just throw out a wishlist of stuff and it'll magically appear, but simply saying "Nah, I don't like that - try again." is the least actionable feedback we can get :)

What have you liked in the past? What would you like to see more of?

How about a Sion skin that isn't a joke or worse than the base skin? Even the Mecha skin is a joke. It's gorgeous, but there is some clear humorous intend there. Barbarian is a clear SwartzSion left over. Lumberjack, hurhur he has a big axe. Hextech and Warmonger just look bad imo.

Now, my opinion is probably influenced by how good his base is. But still.

HellioningAug 23, 20173 votes

Why do downvotes matter to you at all?

All they're saying is that people who are not Rioters clicked a button because they don't like what you are saying. Is that worth quitting a game over?

LordHippomanAug 24, 20173 votes

Hold on just a second here.

It's not your opinion that's getting you downvoted (I mean, mostly). I hate the Star Guardian stuff, I posted about it, and that post is still the highest voted in the thread, IIRC.

It's the way you're expressing those opinions. Unpopular or contrary opinions are fine. I'm not going to say there isn't a bias against them, that's what makes them unpopular, but your phrasing needs work. I honestly think I'm in agreement with you about most of the points you've brought up, here and in the past (Not a fan of the SG stuff, Xayah and Rakan are meh, Kayn is pretty lame), but you very often insult fans of that content in your posts, and I think that's where you're going wrong.

There's going to be a huge difference in reception between:

"I feel like Xayah's design is derivative, I have some difficulty telling her apart from Ahri."

and

"I feel like Xayah's design is derivative, I have some difficulty telling her apart from Ahri. If you like her design you're a dumb idiot who sucks."

I agree with the first! The second just makes it worse, because it initially taints any discussion with this sort of condescending viewpoint. I think this topic, for example, would have been way better received if you didn't tack on "but would be considered deep only by a 15 years old."

A lot of people are a lot more reasonable than you'd expect, even on the internet, but they aren't likely to listen to you if you insult them in your OP. If you just change your wording a bit, I think you'll find better discussions and more positive response to topics.

HonestJohnTheConAug 23, 20175 votes

My recommendation? Read the lore. Yes, the Darius comic was not deep, but it at least elaborated on a cliche in a unique fashion. Also, it took like three minutes to read, so you can't really judge it like that.

The lore is cool and one of the parts of League that I can DEFINITIVELY say is improving. Some of it's not updating though...

Also, just enjoy the game. You seem to have no problem with the gameplay, so keep doing you. Climb the ladder, etc. Find a skin line you like. Find a champion you really like. And just play the game.

About your previous note of Riot looking at the boards: sometimes they do to a thread that has 50+ upvotes or a thread that directly addresses them, but usually they ignore it or say "no, we can't do that". So don't worry about that.

GLHF

La Belle SauvageAug 23, 20171 votes

Excellent advice.

RalanrAug 23, 20174 votes

I don't see how asking for more villains is asking for more edgy.

When I want more villains, I don't want people like Kayn. I want people like Tahm or Cho'gath. Villains who know they are bad and don't care.

LunSeiSleideeAug 23, 20173 votes

[{quoted}](name=Ralanr,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=HAUHOjH8,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2017-08-23T14:17:53.436+00

When I want more villains, I don't want people like Kayn. I want people like Tahm or Cho'gath. Villains who know they are bad and don't care.

And that is not edgy? ;)

Jeddy017Aug 23, 20171 votes

Well then, what type of villains aren't edge?

LunSeiSleideeAug 23, 20171 votes

Swain, I would think. Maybe even Sion, who goes all philosophical about his identity but without the "oh I am a dark tormented soul" of pretty anime boys? Even Darius and Draven can be non-edgy if narrated properly.

But it's not really about the type of villain, I guess it's more about the AMOUNT of villains. I don't like people asking for more villains when this game has plenty.

RalanrAug 23, 20171 votes

Plenty? There's a lack of real villains though.

LunSeiSleideeAug 24, 20171 votes

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Plenty? There's a lack of real villains though.

Half of the game's cast is evil and even most of the good guys in the game are pretty dark and gritty.

RalanrAug 24, 20172 votes

Care to give examples?

LunSeiSleideeAug 24, 20171 votes

No, because we play the same game so I'm sure you know those examples. Don't make me waste time. You like bad guys, we got it. But we've got a LOT of villains of every type, from cold schemers to evil aliens to edgy death entities to warlords to weremonsters to human-eating trolls to sadist cyborgs to cold killers to edgy demon teens to contract killers to maniac artist-murderers to cruel tricksters to evil seductresses to undead lords to water devils to manipulative ice witches to...... wait, why am I even listing them all? You're just trolling, you know all of these characters already.

Oh, and half of the good guys are dark and gritty too. Garen is a fanatic, Shyvana is driven by rage and violence, Ivern is kind of creepy, Yorick is Yorick, Azir is an arrogant overlord, and...... wait, why am I even listing them all?

Characters who are fully good, like Braum or Taliyah, are an extreme rarity in this game. You can count them in one hand. If anything, you should ask for those.

I'm pretty sure you're going to ignore all the examples I've given. And keep in mind those are ONLY examples since with 150+ characters I ain't listing them one by one.

This game has 50% evil characters, 35% good characters with evident dark sides, and 15% pure good guys.

And you say the game has no villains.

It's....... really sad. What do you want more, a character who murders babies and rapes puppies?

RalanrAug 24, 20172 votes

I never said the game has no villains, I said we lack villains. True villains, especially when Riot tries to make certain characters sympathetic.

Vayne for example is a good villainous character because she's basically become the monsters that she's hunting.

Lissandra however despite being a villain is convinced she's doing the right thing. Urgot is just pushing his philosophy on people. They are bad guys but they don't view themselves as bad guys.

When I'm asking for villains, I want more like Tahm or Mordekaiser. Villains who aren't justifying their actions because of philosophy or "greater good" but because they want to do it. Because they find it fun.

As for characters that are fully good, we also have Ashe, Lux, Poppy, Soraka, Janna, Taric, Nami, Galio, Zac, Blitzcrank, Wukong, etc.

Definitely more than on one hand.

Just because I disagree with you doesn't mean I'm a troll. I figured someone in their 30's would understand this.

LunSeiSleideeAug 25, 20171 votes

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Just because I disagree with you doesn't mean I'm a troll. I figured someone in their 30's would understand this.

Aww that's cute, you think adult people respect each other when they have different opinions? Please don't lose your naivety and never, NEVER read the news.

All in all, I don't want more villains because this game has a lot of those, and I already explained my motivations. Not much more I can add.

RalanrAug 25, 20172 votes

No I think they just act like adults about it because I expect them to.

LunSeiSleideeAug 25, 20171 votes

Yep, that surely is how the world works.

Keep not knowing what is going in the world. Your naivety will keep you happier.

RalanrAug 25, 20172 votes

I know that's not how the world works. That doesn't mean I can't expect better from people.

Even when I'm proven wrong like today.

DigielfAug 23, 20171 votes

Its clearly aimed for all ages not sure what you are talking about. Anime is for all ages and the Darius comic had both sex and gore, if for you that is aimed for teens then its just bad personal opinion

Warlord DienekesAug 23, 20176 votes

Admittedly a lot of stories with sex and gore are 100% aimed at teens. Just having mature actions doesn't actually turn your story mature. Honestly, reveling in them is usually a way to make the work feel immature.