What the fuck were their parents to spawn a bear a bird and a goat? I know theyre gods, but come on... Also why did Lissandra of all people place the curse trapping the watchers? Or was that just a warped version of the story?
Ps Hello SAS boards first time posting here. [slayer-jinx-catface] I also like how it tells us where Nami's trident and Yorick's shovel came from.
Ebonmaw Dragon6 votesWell, a crocodile and a dog are brothers... so...
Variks the Loyal5 votesThey were once human, though. The animal totems were bestowed upon them to reflect their personalities.
Ebonmaw Dragon2 votesThey were once human, though. The animal totems were bestowed upon them to reflect their personalities.
Maybe Ornn, Anivia and Volibear werent born in the form that we see today, just like Ren and Nasus. It doesnt sound that crazy.
Variks the Loyal2 votesEh, I'm pretty sure Ascention is a Shuriman thing.
I don't think Riot wants to end up tangling too many different magics and things together, and let different stories stand on their own.
Ebonmaw Dragon3 votesEh, I'm pretty sure Ascention is a Shuriman thing.
I don't think Riot wants to end up tangling too many different magics and things together, and let different stories stand on their own.
Im not saying that they were humans that ascended. They could be spirits "born" from the same "source" or something like that... and they took physical forms afterwards.
Jeddy0176 votesYeah, I don't see what the problem is for bird, bear & ram to be siblings either. These aren't normal creatures, they're fucking demi-gods in a fictional fantasy world. This isn't the history channel, they don'thave to follow the normal rules of reality.
Terozu1 votesBut with Rakan and Xayah Riot made such a huge deal over evolution. It was a huge ask riot post.
Placentas5 votesGods don't adhere to "evolution"
Terozu1 votesBut if Ornn Volibear and Anivia are spirits, the Vastaya evolved from them...
Cetri5 votesWait, where're you getting that from? IIRC the Vastaya are the hybrid descendants of humans and Ionian shapeshifters, the Vastayashai'rei.
Terozu1 votesThe Vastayshai'rei are evolved from spirits, they're spirits who left the spirit world and gained physical forms through adaptation.
Placentas1 votesWhat Cetri said.
Vastay and the Demi-Gods have no current connection. Possibly other than the Vastayashai'rei maybe knowing about the Demi-Gods since they resided in the Spirit World.
Terozu1 votesThe Vastaya are descended from spirits, Anivia has been called a spirit for years, thats whats confusing.
Terozu1 votesWhat crew said, they weren't naturally like that.
Cetri6 votesEh, it's not totally out there in comparison to real-world mythologies. Norse myth has a goddess, a wolf, and a snake as full-blood siblings (and also a horse as a half-sibling).
Arakadia1 votesAnd Loki, a male god, turns into a female horse to have a child with another horse. Which then leads to an 8 legged horse.
Sancre4 votesThey are probably siblings in an spiritual sense, like they are materializations of the elements that reign in Freljord.
Whyte Lyon4 votesI'm still waiting on confirmation in another thread on how in the hell does a spade thrown to the west relate back to Yorick or the Shadow Isles, when they're located in the south east.
Also not sure if Nami's weapon is just a staff or a unique form of trident. But i fail to comprehend how a magical item that can control water originated as a Blacksmith god's fork, or more importantly Nami's weapon looks nothing remotely like a fork. Oh and if i remember correctly, her people lived near Mt. Targon where its unconfirmed but there is more then enough clues to say Mt. T is on the western side of the world. Not the east where the fork was stated to have been thrown.
Valaran Nara2 votes[{quoted}](name=Whyte Lyon,realm=OCE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=GwOR4IQU,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2017-08-09T00:17:36.013+0000)
Also not sure if Nami's weapon is just a staff or a unique form of trident.
Nami's weapon is a staff, not a trident. The only trident-wielder is Fizz.
Whyte Lyon1 votesYeah I know, was like 99% sure that it is a staff. Like I said, the Tidecaller looks nothing like a fork anyway but to give OP the benefit of a doubt, they might have typo-ed Nami instead of FIzz.
Valaran Nara1 votes[{quoted}](name=Whyte Lyon,realm=OCE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=GwOR4IQU,comment-id=000500000000,timestamp=2017-08-09T01:39:53.838+0000)
Yeah I know, was like 99% sure that it is a staff. Like I said, the Tidecaller looks nothing like a fork anyway and just to give OP the benefit of a doubt, they might have typo-ed Nami instead of FIzz.
Spade is an easy fix.
My left is your right.
So, if we're standing a distance from each other but facing the same direction, if a ball was placed between us, then--from me--it is West. But from you, it is East.
Space is relative. Since he's a god, he could have thrown it so far, it went halfway around the world to where saying the OPPOSITE direction still works.
TLDR;
Me weaving words and conspiracy-reasoning to make sense of an obvious mistake upon Riot's behalf.
Whyte Lyon1 votesI understand what your saying but if North is what ever which way I happen to be facing then why do directions exist? If north becomes south from me but not for someone else, then how the hell does one still manage to navigate if direction is all relative?
Also I think you're starting to really grasping at straws here.
Since he's a god, he could have thrown it so far, it went halfway around the world to where saying the OPPOSITE direction still works.
At the end of the day, I wouldn't use the myth of Ornn as any kind of solid evidence for any kind of theory or connection making. There are many intentional inconsistencies and small plot holes through out it. Obviously the myth is embellished and the only thing that could tell the truth is Ornn himself... or if Faxuschizzle confirms or denies something. But honestly I'm just not a believer that any of it happened, although his VO might have some insight to back up some of the myth's mysteries, maybe.
Completely unrelated, I do hope Ornn's VO talks to Galio. I even think Galio is bigger then Ornn.
Valaran Nara1 votes[{quoted}](name=Whyte Lyon,realm=OCE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=GwOR4IQU,comment-id=00050000000000000000,timestamp=2017-08-09T03:00:29.415+0000)
I understand what your saying but if North is what ever which way I happen to be facing then why do directions exist? If north becomes south from me but not for someone else, then how the hell does one still manage to navigate if direction is all relative?
Sir, North is North Regardless.
South is south regardless.
West is West. East is East.
Because the planet is spherical going in one direction will lead you to the opposite side of your starting point.
You leave West of California and go so far you're in the state of Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania is still East of California.
That's what I'm referring to by so far in one direction it becomes the other.
Also, were you not reading the TLDR; where I pretty much said "word weaving" which is me pulling at words and twisting them into what MIGHT make sense? Which is also commonly referred to as "Grasping at straws"
Lol. So yes. I am. It doesn't stop them from doing the typo you said (which you're probably right about if I can see an "accurate" player-made map of the relative locations of everything in Runeterra.
Epicurus2 votesOrnn's fork might be Fizz's trident instead of Nami's. If Fizz lives anywhere close to Bilgewater then that is to the east of the Freljord.
But I don't think the spade is Yorick's shovel. The Blessed Isles are to the south-east, as you have said, and Yoricks shovel also has no obvious magical proprerties. Yorick's magic comes from the Mist and the vial of water he carries. West of the Freljord is just ocean, as far as we know, or possibly the northern reaches of Demacia.
Valaran Nara2 votesSo, the Voli is the god of the Winter's Claw.
Anivia is the goddess of the Avarosan's.
The Watchers are Lissandra's patrons.
And Ornn is Ornn. His people died a long time ago. Or, at the very least, most of what he believes.
Epicurus2 votesI think we have to be a bit cautious about the definition of "sibling". These are oral tales repeated through centuries, so the details will not necessarily be exact facts. Ornn, Volibear, and Anivia are "siblings" in the sense that they are three kindred spirits of the Freljord, not because the same creature gave birth to all three of them. I doubt they even have parents, but instead were born from the land itself, like Maokai was.
Possibly Lissandra enchanted the bridge knowing that the spells would erode over time. She wasn't ready to turn traitor yet, so had to pretend to play her part in trapping the Watchers. By setting up the bridge to eventually fall, she gives herself plenty of time to secretly assassinate Avarosa, and maybe Serylda and the rest of the Iceborn, and to weaken the Freljord, so that when the Watchers return there is no one powerful enough to fight them again.
Glîtchy1 votesA bird, a Goat and a Bear are siblings?
Wtf
Meep Man1 votesI can hear it right now.
Ornn: "I am not a goat. I am a ram. Humans..."
Stacona1 votesFire, Ice, Electricity;
also about time we got a 3rd fire champion - Brand and Annie were lonely; except they all can play support (Ornn I think will only be support, he has a 5 support ability kit; the pillar adds synergy with Vayne too)
BLACK REALM GOD1 votesudyr's been busy. give the poor guy a break. he isnt getting any younger. why do you think he spends so much time in the jungle?
LordGeovanni1 votesi heard the interaction and though Voli got upgraded