Remember the Blitz skin that was canceled for quality concerns?

Penta Penguin·Oct 24, 2017·55 votes·3,289 views

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9v5FDkmIM8

Oh yeah this is fine, he has no legs but still keeps his walking animation...

44 Comments

Chembaron YamadaOct 24, 201715 votes

They stated that they had another animation first, but playtesters said that they don't recognise him as Blitzcrank, which would be a clarity problem.

But maybe they change it again if the majority of players agrees that this isn't an issue.

Penta PenguinOct 24, 201714 votes

so if the new blitz is standing still how do they recognize him?

Chembaron YamadaOct 24, 201719 votes

No idea, I don't understand it. The drill and fist combo makes me recognise him as Blitzcrank, it's similar to his battle boss skin with the claw and wrecking ball (one for pull, one for punch). And he still looks like a robot.

I hope they go with the other animation, it's sad that his "serious power fantasy skins" are becoming joke skins with that odd walking animation again. [slayer-jinx-unamused]

SpecterVonBarenOct 25, 20171 votes

I looked at this post and asked myself, "Wait... I didn't make this thread, why am I seeing a post from myself?"

AenaeusOct 25, 201728 votes

Who honestly has the time to recognize a champion via their walking animation?

DreamspitterOct 25, 20178 votes

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Who honestly has the time to recognize a champion via their walking animation?

I mean, it's only the hulk of metal with a giant single arm that shoots things at you.

Remlap1223Oct 25, 20173 votes

Apparently Blitzcrank mains have the intelligence of AI programs that can't read capchas. I don't think Swain mains are like "WHAT I PICKED SWAIN?" if they used his Tyrant skin in game.

MhihnjOct 25, 20173 votes

who said blitzcrank mains tested it?

ModAcademy KaynOct 25, 201713 votes

It's the champions silhouette, how easily they're recognized via first glance, without having to really think about. No one looks at something at thinks "Thats walking like Blitz", it's much more instantaneous, more "SHIT THATS BLITZ", because of some shared character traits drawn through skins.

It's the same reason SG's Raka Run animation is only for homeguard, else seeing something flying around with wings ruin's that instantaneous realization that it is indeed Soraka.

While you can argue some of that shared traits are still there, they are varied in their form. New skin is much more top detail oriented than OG Blitz bulky body, as well as much more sleek. Drill hand is a varied form of his hand, meanwhile his other hand is a hand, not a drill. These things are slight, but these small rechecks make a big difference.

Blitz revealing himself out of bush for a second before using Q, not being able to instantly tell that's Blitz, it can make all the difference.

Jet SettOct 25, 20173 votes

The moment something comes out of a bush you barely even have time to notice the animation, and in some cases it's cancelled the moment the exit the bush to use an ability, making the animation even less relevant in detection.

And if this were the case then why would his movement speed boost be left like this? This issue seems more like an inability to adapt to a champion's new skin than anything else, which is understandable in skins like this that change so much visually.

XonraOct 26, 20171 votes

I mean, I guess no one can see the name during champ select. Or just hit tab to see what the champ is. Sure is hard to tell what champ you are against.

That's a pretty flimsy excuse lol

"I hate my eyes closed so I couldn't tell I was about to walk into this wall"

ModAcademy KaynOct 26, 20171 votes

Bruh, that's not the issue. The issue is not being able to instantly recognize something on a split second notice. If I can't instantly figure out that it was Blitz walking out of the bush, that can get me hooked.

XonraOct 26, 20171 votes

I think their play testers are smoking something sometimes with the feedback they give (I mean who let's Galio through like this, or Azir through on launch with those bugs, or Ardent through like it was when it was busted).

Their play testers are clearly clueless.

XonraOct 26, 20171 votes

Their play testers are clearly clueless.

Also it's pretty hard to hit tab to see the champ if you are somehow clueless and don't know what champ it is.

SukishooOct 24, 20178 votes

Yeah, having no legs with a WALK is a bit odd....

KloqdqOct 25, 20178 votes

You know why this is complete and utter bullshit? Why Riot has actually quit trying. ** Battle Boss Blitz has a hovering walk cycle.**

Tesla EffectOct 25, 20172 votes

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You know why this is complete and utter bullshit? Why Riot has actually quit trying. ** Battle Boss Blitz has a hovering walk cycle.**

THIS^^^^

SwaidOct 25, 20174 votes

An old ass champion that has no visual rework gets a bad ass skin? Its like draping silk over a turd.

marpatt11Oct 25, 20173 votes

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An old ass champion that has no visual rework gets a bad ass skin? Its like draping silk over a turd.

Look at his other skins before you make a comment like that, there are what, 3-4 that either change his walking animation or his w drastically, and those are great, but then they come out with this shit of a turd and you say all of them are bad? Have you ever seen a blitz skin in game, or did you just get crushed by a good blitz player just now?

SwaidOct 25, 20171 votes

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Look at his other skins before you make a comment like that, there are what, 3-4 that either change his walking animation or his w drastically, and those are great, but then they come out with this shit of a turd and you say all of them are bad? Have you ever seen a blitz skin in game, or did you just get crushed by a good blitz player just now?

Alright, calm yourself down. First, don't put words in my mouth and second, I was referring to how they should really update the base of a champion itself before giving it skins in the first place. What you're saying I said leaves me confused and wondering if you replied to my comment by accident and meant someone else.

marpatt11Oct 25, 20171 votes

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Alright, calm yourself down. First, don't put words in my mouth and second, I was referring to how they should really update the base of a champion itself before giving it skins in the first place. What you're saying I said leaves me confused and wondering if you replied to my comment by accident and meant someone else.

First, what words exactly did I put in your mouth? you were saying that all of his skins are shit "its like draping silk over a turd" and so I explained why this skin, the new lancer skin, is shit but how they can fix it easily, blitz doesn't need a visual update, not until the other champs like aatrox, volibear, and maybe udyr get their VGUs/GUs, plus they canceled the VUs so saying he needs a visual update is saying he needs a VGU, judging by how you responded im guessing this is putting "words in your mouth" but, this skin isn't bad, they just made a design decision that left this skin......wanting more then it got.

SwaidOct 26, 20171 votes

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First, what words exactly did I put in your mouth? you were saying that all of his skins are shit "its like draping silk over a turd" and so I explained why this skin, the new lancer skin, is shit but how they can fix it easily, blitz doesn't need a visual update, not until the other champs like aatrox, volibear, and maybe udyr get their VGUs/GUs, plus they canceled the VUs so saying he needs a visual update is saying he needs a VGU, judging by how you responded im guessing this is putting "words in your mouth" but, this skin isn't bad, they just made a design decision that left this skin......wanting more then it got.

Alright man, I don't know why you're so focused on what I said but draping a silk sheet over a turd...I called his skins silk, Blitzcrank himself is the turd because besides a texture update, he's looked pretty much the same since release and while I haven't seen him in awhile, I remember his hook is also janky as fuck. Yes, it looks goofy that he has the walking animation despite havin' no legs, Lieutenant Dan, happy? Jeez, I try to make a snarky comment on the forums because I want Blitz to get a Visual Graphic Overhaul and you come along saying I got owned by some Blitz, that I think all his skins are shit even though I compared them for the most part to silk, and I actually want Blitz to look good without a skin? Shame on me, I'll go drink some bleach right goddamn now while choking myself on a noose for the sexual thrill, because that's just how I need to start my day.

XonraOct 26, 20171 votes

Doesn't look like that is what they said at all captain overreaction.

Toxic MemesOct 25, 20172 votes

Be aware that these are just the initial previews of the skin, they aren't likely going to be shipping that to live before adding a different walking animation, but hey, I don't work at riot and they might just not change it at all.

FrankbangOct 25, 20172 votes

I mean, it's also a way to differentiate between his normal moving and his W. It's much more obvious the moment he uses W if he picks himself up off the ground and the "walking" animation changes to gliding, as opposed to a gliding animation just gliding faster.

marpatt11Oct 25, 20174 votes

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I mean, it's also a way to differentiate between his normal moving and his W. It's much more obvious the moment he uses W if he picks himself up off the ground and the "walking" animation changes to gliding, as opposed to a gliding animation just gliding faster.

Then why couldn't they use piltover customs's animation? its literally perfect for this skin, a lot more people would be happy, and oh hey, its on another skin so maybe people would still recognize it.

LunSeiSleideeOct 25, 20172 votes

Maybe it's just confirmation bias, but I do feel Riot has stopped trying. Like, at all. 2017 saw Riot caring only about making money, not about making money AND offering quality and style.

MorticianjohnOct 25, 20171 votes

It would certainly be a clarity issue if he didn't walk like Blitz. I for one would not appreciate the disguise.

marpatt11Oct 25, 20172 votes

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It would certainly be a clarity issue if he didn't walk like Blitz. I for one would not appreciate the disguise.

So, tyrant swain is a new champ? mecha zero isn't sion? piltover custom Blitz isn't actually blitz? the only real disguise skins we have in game are the Definitely not series, so idk what you're talking about, oh and, Elementalist lux isn't lux? pulsefire ezreal isn't ezreal? spirit guard udyr isn't udyr? battlecast cho'gath isn't cho'gath? etc.

Ebonmaw DragonOct 25, 20171 votes

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So, tyrant swain is a new champ? mecha zero isn't sion? piltover custom Blitz isn't actually blitz? the only real disguise skins we have in game are the Definitely not series, so idk what you're talking about, oh and, Elementalist lux isn't lux? pulsefire ezreal isn't ezreal? spirit guard udyr isn't udyr? battlecast cho'gath isn't cho'gath? etc.

Technically... a lot of skins arent the champion, for example Mecha Zero Sion is not Sion, its a robot created by yordles (Who looks like Sion). Out of all the examples that you said, only Tyrant Swain is the same Swain that we see in game, but wearring the armor that he uses for politics.

marpatt11Oct 25, 20171 votes

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Technically... a lot of skins arent the champion, for example Mecha Zero Sion is not Sion, its a robot created by yordles (Who looks like Sion). Out of all the examples that you said, only Tyrant Swain is the same Swain that we see in game, but wearring the armor that he uses for politics.

Actually from the voice lines that MZ Sion has, it probably was Viktor who created him EDIT: taunting an enemy Viktor sometimes gives you this response "The pinnacle of your 'Glorious Evolution' stands before you, Viktor. Are you not pleased?", but they are the same champions tho, they look the same, have the same abilities, thats what I was pointing out, since clearly you didn't read the OP's post, he was talking about it be a clarity issue and being a "disguise" it isn't though, if you just look at the model.

Ebonmaw DragonOct 26, 20171 votes

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Actually from the voice lines that MZ Sion has, it probably was Viktor who created him EDIT: taunting an enemy Viktor sometimes gives you this response "The pinnacle of your 'Glorious Evolution' stands before you, Viktor. Are you not pleased?", but they are the same champions tho, they look the same, have the same abilities, thats what I was pointing out, since clearly you didn't read the OP's post, he was talking about it be a clarity issue and being a "disguise" it isn't though, if you just look at the model.

The taunt does not mean that he created the robot, you can clearly see a yordle in the splash art and it was confirmed by Riot that he yordles are the ones that created all the Mecha.

However, back in the topic, i think that the lack of legs is the actual clarity problem since it changes the silhouette of the champ. Not the walking animation.

marpatt11Oct 26, 20171 votes

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The taunt does not mean that he created the robot, you can clearly see a yordle in the splash art and it was confirmed by Riot that he yordles are the ones that created all the Mecha.

However, back in the topic, i think that the lack of legs is the actual clarity problem since it changes the silhouette of the champ. Not the walking animation.

Then how and why did Piltover Customs blitz and Battle Boss Blitz get new walking animations? they change the silhouette and the legs of the character, just like the Lancers

Ebonmaw DragonOct 26, 20171 votes

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Then how and why did Piltover Customs blitz and Battle Boss Blitz get new walking animations? they change the silhouette and the legs of the character, just like the Lancers

Good point... maybe its the hand?

marpatt11Oct 26, 20171 votes

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Good point... maybe its the hand?

Which hand are you talking about? if you're talking about the hook/drill then well, every blitz skin changes it, so then iblitzcrank wouldn't exist or battleboss, he always has one big hand and one normal hand, so this is a normal feature for blitz. If you're talking about his regular hand, see above, its always there and doesn't change much, also they stated they kept the laughable base walk animation because play testers couldn't recognize that it was blitz, even though in the, scoreboard, champ select, loading screen, minimap, you can all see its blitz's normal portrait, and if thats not enough to see its blitz, look at the abilities he is using, he starts charging at you, suddenly floating (using skin example) with his drill in the air, he then is slowed and fires out a projectile, you're then pulled toward him and knocked up, then silenced, nahhhhhhhhhh, I couldn't tell its blitz.

Ebonmaw DragonOct 26, 20171 votes

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Which hand are you talking about? if you're talking about the hook/drill then well, every blitz skin changes it, so then iblitzcrank wouldn't exist or battleboss, he always has one big hand and one normal hand, so this is a normal feature for blitz. If you're talking about his regular hand, see above, its always there and doesn't change much, also they stated they kept the laughable base walk animation because play testers couldn't recognize that it was blitz, even though in the, scoreboard, champ select, loading screen, minimap, you can all see its blitz's normal portrait, and if thats not enough to see its blitz, look at the abilities he is using, he starts charging at you, suddenly floating (using skin example) with his drill in the air, he then is slowed and fires out a projectile, you're then pulled toward him and knocked up, then silenced, nahhhhhhhhhh, I couldn't tell its blitz.

I was talking about the normal hand, not the hook... however, after comparing all the skins of Blitz, i think that what really differentiates the new skins from the others are the shoulderpads.

The rest of the shoulderpads are rounded, but the ones of Lancer Blitz look like wings or something like that... So, some people could confuse him with a new champ.

And the thing about recognizing the champ by their shape is to not relly on the skills (or anything else) in order to recognize the champ... Because, if the "unknown thing" uses a power towards you and kills you, it would be too late to say "oh, yeah, that was a blitz".

(I tried to explain what i think about the problem, but english is not my primary languaje,so I can not explain myself further)

marpatt11Oct 26, 20171 votes

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I was talking about the normal hand, not the hook... however, after comparing all the skins of Blitz, i think that what really differentiates the new skins from the others are the shoulderpads.

The rest of the shoulderpads are rounded, but the ones of Lancer Blitz look like wings or something like that... So, some people could confuse him with a new champ.

And the thing about recognizing the champ by their shape is to not relly on the skills (or anything else) in order to recognize the champ... Because, if the "unknown thing" uses a power towards you and kills you, it would be too late to say "oh, yeah, that was a blitz".

(I tried to explain what i think about the problem, but english is not my primary languaje,so I can not explain myself further)

Well I mean, you have 2 chances to look at the darn screen and see its blitz, once in the champ select, once in the loading screen, then you have 2 permanent portraits that say "that is blitzcrank", one is on the minimap, one is on the scoreboard.

Tesla EffectOct 25, 20171 votes

I agree, its rather dumb that Battle Boss Blitzcrank has a much smoother animation that doesnt look like he has two invisible legs, but the two skins that should have a more floating animation still retain a walking animation for invisible legs.

And they are the same price.