Another Vi & Jinx theory (or: "Is Zaun trying to create a biologically enchanced supersolider?")

SaltyToplaneGoat··4 votes·2,602 views

So, they are sisters? Nope. It's a bit more complicated I think... I had a certain thought when I asked myself about how Vi and Jinx are connected... and then I realized: their abilities are amazing... even SUPERHUMAN to some degree. And we all know that Zaun is experimenting with biological augmentation, so it's no weird thing to follow that thought. But why don't the look like Dr. Mundo?

Well, the "enemy" of Zaun is Piltover, a highly developed state. For fighting a war with them you don't need musclebags, but tech-freaks. Saboteurs, that can instantly identify technology and eventually even change it into weapons. That would be Vi, who created her gauntlets from mining equipment in super-time with a mine collapsing on her. Even Heimerdinger admitted her genius mechanic skills... Also, she seems to be a bit stronger than you average human - carrying these fists must take a lot of strenght after all.

Jinx on the other hand... did you ever wonder how her fragile body can carry a rocket launcher, grenades, a minigun and a zap pistol? Plus munition? She seems to be A LOT stronger than her body might let you suspect - while also having a seriously fired up metabolism to generate the energy for that power. That would explain her thin body. Her super-metabolism doesn't even allow her to get fat. The side effect of that seems to be hyperactivity and her insanity...

Now, how are the two connected? I don't think they are sisters in the traditional sense. Since cloning technology isn't confirmed to be possible in Valoran until now I think Zaun just took in orphans at a very young age and experimented on them. They might even be related by blood, but they are more "sisters" in sharing their bio-augments and being in the same experiment.

But why doesn't Vi remember? Why doesn't she remember ANYTHING from her childhood before suddenly waking up on the streets of piltover with god-like mechanic skills?

My theory is that Vi came before Jinx, but she refused to take orders (very much like her I think) and escaped. Then probably hit her head hard or something and lost her memories. Jinx seems to created after that (the X in her name might equal roman 10. And 10>6. It seems to be their "serial number"). Whoever seemed to have supervised the process tried to desperatly avoid something like Vi escaping and created her with the total opposite and mind. (than might explain why their unnatural hair and eye-colors are swapped, as well how their personalities are total opposites at some points.).

I guess that something went wrong and Jinx broke out. With nowhere to go she chased after the only person she could relate to: her "sister", who was created by the very same project.

Another possibility could be that Zaun gave her a bunch of weapons, dropped her in Piltover and just said "go wild".

Hmm another though about these roman numerals... there is still the phantom thief "C" (=100). I think that one comes form the same project, but he seems to have superior intelligence and speed. Another product of a human modification program? Who knows...

We might see more... "extraordinary" people coming from Zaun in the future...

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Ebonmaw Dragon5 votes

Singed A "biologically enchanced supersolider"? ... Warwick counts?

Warwick Yes, i am.

Twitch Warwick, you are a musclebag, just like mundo... I am the genius with weapons

DrMundo Wait! Mundo is not a musclebag, Mundo is a Doctor. MUNDO!

Zac Ummm.... I'm a biologically created superweapon...Its close enough?

Viktor Fools... the steel can fix all your flaws... those organic things are outdated.

Blitzcrank 01001101 01000001 01011001 01000010 01000101

Jinx wHo CaREs? LetS ShOoT sOMeThINg!

SaltyToplaneGoat1 votes

Well, WW is cursed and Singed is not counting since he is "only doping". Twitch is more of an accident...

Zac is a "living weapon", not a enchanced human and Viktor... well, biology isn't his thing it seems...

But yes, I think it wouldn't be weird if Zaun tried that... Mundo is the best example of what's theoretically possible.

Ebonmaw Dragon3 votes

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Well, WW is cursed and Singed is not counting since he is "only doping". Twitch is more of an accident...

Zac is a "living weapon", not a enchanced human and Viktor... well, biology isn't his thing it seems...

But yes, I think it wouldn't be weird if Zaun tried that... Mundo is the best example of what's theoretically possible.

Actually, the "curse" thing was changed long time ago, the new lore says that he drank an elixir of Singed.

SaltyToplaneGoat1 votes

Wait what? When did I even miss this?

I'm horribly confused.

Well, then it could be counted as biological augmentation, yes... although it seems more like an artificially created werewolf curse... We are in desperate need for more details on this...

LordHippoman2 votes

Pre retcon of Warwick/Soraka lores, you're right, it was a curse from the (at the time) demigod, Soraka.

Post retcon, it was a potion Singed made to augment Warwick's physical abilities, but he wasn't finished with it before WW drank it, which caused the wolf side effects. Apparently, Soraka's heart is the ingredient needed to cure it, which is why he's still rivals with her even with the redone backstory.

SaltyToplaneGoat1 votes

I get the feeling that this "Lore fix" wasn't really thought through...

The Soulforged1 votes

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Wait what? When did I even miss this?

I'm horribly confused.

Well, then it could be counted as biological augmentation, yes... although it seems more like an artificially created werewolf curse... We are in desperate need for more details on this...

I've missed the big lore updates myself, and I have no idea when they were changed :/ Such as that of Maokai. Just read it a few months ago and was like, wut they changed his old lore.

SaltyToplaneGoat1 votes

Well I did get the maokai change, but I never knew they changed WW and Soraka...

DarkBlue7312 votes

I like this theory, glad I'm not the only one who thought this! It leaves so many possibilities for awesome story ideas. I'd love to see Game Theory tackle this one, but there are probably better topics out there -_-

They are both crazy and very prone to violence, but just in different ways.

It is implied that they are from the Zaun area, and their origins are, for the most part, unknown. In the blog topic "Jinx and Vi's Family Ties: "Facts, Myths and Theories" " GypsyLord made 2 interesting comments about Vi's past:

** "Vi was orphaned at an extremely young age. A combination of her youth at the time and whatever trauma she suffered has left her with absolutely zero memories of her past and any family she may have had. I can't say whether or not Vi has a sister but I can say that if she did have one she would not be able to remember her.

Vi's name is from her tattoo, not the other way around. She's had that "VI" on her cheek for as long as she can remember, and so when she was first on the streets and people asked her name and she had none to give them they just started using the most distinguishing thing about her: the tattoo. Whatever family she may have had might have given her a "real" name at one point but she can't remember it." **

So the two most likely things about Vi may be: Escaped slave, or Escaped experiment. Also it is interesting that Jinx chooses "X" as her signature instead of the more obvious "J", but there could be another reason for that. Personally I lean towards experiment, but who knows, maybe its both, or maybe its neither -_-

So about superhuman abilities: Yeah, they are both above average intellectually, and they both seem to have some physical aspect of them that is a bit above normal.

I think Vi has super strength, because those gauntlets she uses are absolutely enormous, she swings them effortlessly, there isn't too much on her armor that suggests it is holding them up (except maybe that thing on her back, but that could also just be a power generator for the gloves, or it could be the blast shield generator).
She also seems to be slightly faster than usual. I mean, how is her starting move speed 350, even when she is carrying all that stuff? Maybe because she's a jungler or a top laner or something -_-, I don't know. So yeah, I think she is super strong.

I think Jinx on the other hand has super speed, for one main reason: her passive "Get Excited!". When she kills or closely assists in a turret, inhibitor, or champ kill, she gets a massive movement speed boost. Good for chasing down a potential kill, or for escaping. She would also need to be kind of strong to carry all those guns, but then again so would those shoulder straps she uses to carry them. Or maybe the guns are light enough so the straps don't break. Both are possible, but you would still need a pretty good back to carry all that stuff.

So I think it is possible (and cool if true) that both Vi and Jinx could be the products of biological enhancement.

Or maybe not, maybe they are both that way because it is just a fantasy video game where everyone potentially has super powers, and that it doesn't have to make sense as long as its fun. But that explanation is just too boring -_-.

So......... yeah

SUPER SOLDIER SHOWDOWN!!!!!!!!!!! Jinx item 3145 item 3025 Vi

SaltyToplaneGoat2 votes

Yes I know that thread, but I was confused why no one there thought of this theory.

Or maybe not, maybe they are both that way because it is just a fantasy video game where everyone potentially has super powers, and that it doesn't have to make sense as long as its fun. But that explanation is just too boring -_-

That would be the biggest disappointment ever. But no, I think at least Jinx has enchanced physical abilities. If her weapons were made of easy to lift material they would lose A LOT of their destructive power - because without the weight you have way more recoil. To compensate for that Jinx would need a LOT of strenght...

My theory is that it's biological enchancement... and that's not without risks. Jinx seems to be a total adrenaline junkie... I wonder if she's really doing it for fun or if her body starts acting up if she doesn't get her "rush" after some time. Another possibility would be a manipulation os adrenaline and endorphines as a side effect to her increases strenght and speed... I wonder what Riot is going to do with the story here.

I see you brought up her passive. "Get Exited"... so, the moment she hypes up she gets the strenght and the speed? Is her power limited to her adrenaline(or whatever)- level?

They are both crazy and very prone to violence, but just in different ways.

That is the only thing connecting them personally - strangely that would be the exact way I would create my super-soldiers: agressive, quick-witted and destructive. Perfect Zaun Evil Science. You can't have supersoldiers who DON'T like violence. At least not with Evil Science. But apart from this basic part they are total opposites.

I wonder if Jinx has a tattoo too. You know, an "X". Either it's covered up by her other tattoos OR she hides it under her clothing. "I wear a lot of belts - for no reason at all..." Hmmm this quote might make sense now...

DarkBlue7311 votes

That would be the biggest disappointment ever.

I totally agree with you there.

I'm not saying that Jinx isn't super strong, because she clearly is. I mean, look at how bony she is, and then look at how much she is carrying. And also Jinx can handle the recoil of a giant rocket, but Caitlyn can't handle the recoil of her 90 cal net (not that I actually know the exact recoils on those things, but it seems like the rocket would push you back a bit more). But then again, the gear is hextech, and we don't really know how it handles compared to real stuff. Could be heavier, could be lighter, could have more recoil, could have less, I don't know.

I'm just saying that, if she was a super soldier, the main focus of her mutation would probably have been to make a gunner who can move very, very fast, and blow stuff up before the enemy know what hit them, with the strength necessary to carry and operate the weapons, but without having to engage in hand to hand. And that sound like Jinx to me, personally. I just think that Jinx and Vi got different serums or mutagens or whatever that were intended for creating different types of super soldiers: both strong, both fast, both smart in some way, just one is way stronger, and the other is way faster.

Now what if Jinx was sent to Piltover because the "creators" wanted to pit the two super soldiers against each other to see which was better? Or maybe they wanted to observe them both for flaws, or see how both types work in an urban environment? Or maybe they saw Vi as a mistake or a failure because they could not control her (hence her escape, maybe she broke through a wall or bent the bars or something) and sent Jinx to kill her, but Jinx won't because Vi is just too fun to mess with (because she smashes everything), or that Vi is not so easy to kill. Maybe the "creators" are trying to combine the two formula into one subject, to create someone who is as strong and intelligent as Vi, and as fast and cunning as Jinx? Or maybe...they already did o.0...............C?

Now we have a story ;)

I see you brought up her passive. "Get Exited"... so, the moment she hypes up she gets the strenght and the speed? Is her power limited to her adrenaline(or whatever)- level?

Her actual super speed may be. But then again, she's always excited when explosions are involved, isn't she? And explosions always happen when she's involved, don't they?

That is the only thing connecting them personally

yeah, they really don't have too much in common personality wise, but then again, they really don't need to.

I wonder if Jinx has a tattoo too. You know, an "X". Either it's covered up by her other tattoos OR she hides it under her clothing. "I wear a lot of belts - for no reason at all..." Hmmm this quote might make sense now...

Hmm..... indeed

It could be under her clothing (what little there is anyway).

But then again, it's Jinx. Do you really expect her to have a reason for anything she does? After all, she "doesn't have time to think"

SaltyToplaneGoat1 votes

But then again, it's Jinx. Do you really expect her to have a reason for anything she does? After all, she "doesn't have time to think"

She might not have a detailed plan ready, but I believe she has her own motivations and reasons to do what she does - her currentl goal is to "play" with Vi. And since Vi is a cop what could be a better way to get her attention than to be a criminal? Combined with her love for blowing things up...

I think it's obvious that she's overly fixated on Vi - even if Vi doesn't seem to remember it.

And that sound like Jinx to me, personally. I just think that Jinx and Vi got different serums or mutagens or whatever that were intended for creating different types of super soldiers: both strong, both fast, both smart in some way, just one is way stronger, and the other is way faster.

Yes, I have the same theory. Although Vi's "power" isn't speed. It's her unnatural engeniering skill. I think when she's working Vi is an entirely different person. Patient, calm, collected, etc, slowly and carefully getting all the parts together - and with that she's the total opposite of Jinx doing her "work" (aka blowing stuff up). Although I think she would be super rude to anyone disturbing her work. She's kinda like Jayce in some ways (but less arrogance and more rudeness).

About your story ideas above: I don't think that Jinx has a "mission" or something. For that one would need to control her and that's impossible. IF she's under zaunite command, they just dropped her on Piltover like a bomb and told her to "do whatever the fuck she wants". The more reasonable theory is that Jinx just completly went out of control.

Vi on the other hand is an escapee here, that should be obvious.

GenoXx1 votes

Where did this theory of Vi and Jinx being super soldiers? Vi's Strength comes from her gauntlets-* Mainly* She may have developed muscles from using them over the years but come on, how do people not see this.

Gauntlets people.... Also Jinx shows no signs of super human activity......

SaltyToplaneGoat1 votes

I'm not talking about them having flashy super-powers or something. Just products of an experiment trying to enchance humans towards that... THink of captn america (if you read comics. His power is "being a little stronger than a normal human + reflexes, stamina and stuff")

Young girl wakes up on the street, no memories of her past, but she has godlike mechanic skills and a serial number tatooed on her face. Seems pretty obvious to me. Also it would make sense if Vi's "powers" are less obvious than Jinx's. She is "only" model #6, Jinx would be No. 10 when following that theory. Also, Jinx seems to be the intended opposite: Vi's actual power is to "create" (yeah sound stupid with her wrecking everything, but her mechanic and tech-skill is the real deal), Jinx, being the total opposite is enthralled by chaos and mayhem, she "destroys".

I think that Zaun created a lot more, getting stronger (and weirder results every time). But their creations wouldn't always obey them. Some escaped probalbly, some were killed, some died due to side effects, etc etc.

I explained Jinx above: super metabolism and increased strenght (Vi might posess these too by a lesser degree, but that's open for speculation). Do you have ANY idea how much a minigun weights? Plus a rocket launcher? Plus even more equippment? And she can even RUN with all that.

Lyvandil1 votes

Ok sorry this theory seems to be to much. Think someone spent to much time in the superhero world.

SaltyToplaneGoat2 votes

Oh wait... we have a world with over 120 champions, mostly people with superhuman skills + tech. Then we have an entire city-state being focussed around evil science, while we also know that human enchancement isn't impossible.

Runeterra IS a Superhero/Fantasy world. I don't see your point here.

Lyvandil1 votes

My point is I think your reaching out superfar on this. But hey don't let that spoil your opinion.

SaltyToplaneGoat1 votes

It's the most logical possibility to explain their connection with. Vi doesn't seem to remember her, but that would mean Jinx was somehow part of her life BEFORE she suddenly woke up on the streets. Before she lost every memory of what happened.

That and the fact that Jinx wears zaun-fashion, Vi has a serial number tattooed, both show slightly superhuman skill, etc etc. It's just the most logical conclusion here. It's not even going that far...

DarkBlue7311 votes

Anyone else wanna see a movie or book or comic or anime or cartoon or cinematic or SOMETHING about Vi and Caitlyn and Jinx and others from Riot?

'cause I sure do!

SaltyToplaneGoat1 votes

Everyone does xD

SaltyToplaneGoat1 votes

Vi is from Zaun now? LOL. Now this theory might be even legit somehow...

Save The Oceans1 votes

ALRIGHTY Im gonna say something to add on to this Theory, this might explain why Jinx is Insane.... Ekko, three of his taunts are "You forgot your roots, Vi" "You'll always be Zaun to me" and finally the most confirming theory that Vi is from Zaun, "One day you'll return to Zaun" ... What I pick up from this is, Vi is either Ekko's Lover, Sibling, or old friends (perhaps from Zaun's "superhuman boosterthingymabobber"). Another of my theories is that, What if Jinx (since supposedly Vi is confirmed younger than Jinx) tried to save Vi and when she was taken away, the Zaun scientists took away Jinx's memory of Vi but left her knowing she had a sister, and went Insane from her constantly trying to figure out who her sister is. Later on they took Jinx away for testing. Or Maybe they had 10 subjects, and lets say only 3 survived (I HAVE A FEELING EKKO IS ONE OF THE SUBJECTS) Vi was the Sixth, Jinx the Tenth the last subject, Ekko I dont know which number. They all escaped and Ekko maybe developed some sort of power to turn time, but lost it and became an engineer and can turn time again. I really hope someone makes this work more and Riot leaves us some mooooooore information. :D

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