Aurelion Sol - What's in a name?

Lost R··29 votes·43,742 views

I consider myself an - I hesitate to use the word - expert on languages, vocabulary and grammar, and how we, as humans, understand, interpret and react to them. Above anything else, I'm really good at pattern recognition. Names can hold tremendous meaning, especially in fictional works. League is no exception.

So the entity formerly known as Ao Shin that Riot teased us with back in 2013 has been announced to at last maybe finally be released in this half of the year... under the name Aurelion Sol. Does this mean the Ao Shin we knew once is dead? No. This is the evolution of ideas and drafts. i know this personally being both a writer and an artist that from meetings to the cutting room and production floors, so many things can be changed about anything in any given work. Remember that Illaoi was originally a squat, old woman and Braum once wore armor. Riot and League of Legends in general is an interesting case study on the evolution on ideas. Since it's constantly being updated and its voice and image slowly shaped over time, we can see in real time the ideas being reworked and old story elements being retconned in favor of ideas more concrete and better shaped... with varying degrees of quality and accuracy, but I digress.

So what kind of name is Aurelion Sol? First, we'll discuss what kind of name Ao Shin is. Ao is a Japanese word for color somewhere between the blue and green spectrum. It's also associated with youth. Shin has a variety of meanings, depending on how you write it in Kanji, with a synonymous thread between most of them. It has associations like "new", "progress", "true", "humility". So Ao Shin's name can have such meanings like "New Blue", "Young Progress", or "New Humility", and these various names give insight into the kind of character he might have initially been portrayed as behind closed doors. The name Ao was also fitting because sky blue was a primary color on him, and the sketches showed him interacting with wind, painting him as a Janna-like champion who had mastery over the element of air. On top of all this, his name was Japanese, associating him with Ionia, the Asia surrogate in this game.

Aurelion Sol is Latin. Aurelion is an alternate spelling of Aurelian, which is an ancient term for interest in butterflies. Its name is associated with chrysalis and the golden color that it changes to before it hatches and the butterfly emerges. Aurelian's name is also derived from the Latin word for gold, Aurum (Au is the periodic symbol for gold). Once again we see an association with the sky (butterflies) and progress (chrysalis), still reflecting the undertones behind Ao Shin's name.

Sol is the Latin name for the sun. It's as simple as that, but the meaning can have so many interpretations. The sun is literally the single most important thing in the universe to us. We could not be here without the energy and light from the sun. Almost every religion on the planet was born as a result of this subconscious acknowledgement of the dependency on the sun; even the Judeo-Christian religions are derivatives of sun worship. The sun is also commonly associated with the elements of light and fire, being a giant ball of plasma and nuclear fusions that provide heat and light. Finally, it's also associated with the cosmos; the sun is just one of basically infinite out there. Whenever you look up into the sky at night (granted you live in an area with little smog and light pollution and can actually see them), all those stars up there are another sun in our galaxy. They're everywhere. From a mythological and religious standpoint, the cosmos is the outer realms of reality, where greater gods dwell and what mortal minds were not meant to comprehend. You can call it Heaven or Asgard or Olympus, but the meaning remains the same.

Now combine this association with the Bard trailer from a year ago. Giving Riot the benefit of the doubt and hoping and assuming that they weren't playing us like a piano two dollar banjo GODDAMN FIDDLE!, the egg object that Bard stole/took/recovered/protected from the Ionians and Noxus was claimed by Riot to be Ao Shin's egg. Bard technically has no association or affiliation in Runeterra. He's an extraplanar entity who appears to restore balance where it's needed. His story in the preview leading up to that was told from the perspective of stargazers on (presumably) Mt. Targon. For all intents and purposes, he's of a cosmic affiliation; something outside mortal understanding, and this is further emphasized by his voicelessness, his faceless, inhuman mask, glowing eyes and mouth, alien designs on his flute(?) and clothing, and inflated, disproportionate limbs. Even calling him a him from a masculine sense is misleading.

Ao Shin's supposed egg was also cosmic in its appearance; it literally looked like a reflection of space. This proposes that Ao Shin, now Aurelion Sol, is also cosmic in origin like Bard, perhaps even directly associated with him because of the events in the Bard trailer. Because of his name of Aurelion, he could also still be associated with the sky and therefore wind. Sol associates him with fire and light. His Latin name (meaning almost literally Golden Sun or Solar Butterfly) and their association with the sun could make him affiliated with Mt. Targon or even Shurima, as they both worship the sun and have a lot of solar iconography, and the Latin language originates from the area around Italy, which presides just northwest of the Middle East, similar in Targon's geographical relationship to Shurima.

What does this mean for his supposed abilities? It probably means he'll either have phenomenal cosmic powers or he'll control the forces of wind and/or fire or some combination of both. It could even be solar wind (though THAT would be truly bizarre). He's definitely a mage and likely a support. Whatever the case may be, understanding the origins of his names gives new insight into what he might possibly be once he's finally released, and definitely made me more interested in him than when I was when I woke up this morning.

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RiotBioluminescence17 votes

I'm not on the Narrative Team, so this isn't a trap in any way - I'm honestly curious. Where was it said that the egg in the Bard video was Ao Shin?

I know that Jaredan called it an egg in the Q&A, but if you have a link to where it was stated that it was Ao Shin's egg, that'd be great. I know it was definitely a super popular theory at the time.

For reference, this is the mention of the egg from Sharjo's awesome "What we learned this year: TL;DR Lore 2015" thread:

Bard's current identity as "Bard" comes from the Bards; a society of Ionians who lived on a trio of mountains. They had some deal with Bard in the past that involved keeping a trio of magical altars and a celestial egg of sorts safe. In return they received some magical benefit from the objects in question. Bard's deal with them came to an end when Noxians tried to claim the egg and attacks the Bards, which forced them to use the Egg for destructive purposes. Bard sensed this, swept in and took not only the egg but the three altars to a place beyond Runeterra for safe keeping. This was maybe about four decades ago now and was the last record of Bard appearing in Runeterra.

To reiterate - I'm not trying to trap anyone here. I'm honestly just a curious lore fan who is wondering if she missed some info, or if you're operating on popular speculation.

Lost R2 votes

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Umm... about that...

I can't recall WHERE I gleaned that information. I swear I saw it confirmed in a Red Post somewhere. All the information and their various sources must have melded together in my brain while I was reading them. Of all the things I researched while writing this essay of a post, the one thing I skipped over was the egg.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvDoVw0TnvY

BUT, for the sake of argument, let's just assume it's Aurelion Sol's egg. Otherwise most of my post doesn't make any sense.

HOWEVER! Red Post diving on the Q&A you just linked to has surfaced some interesting quotes from Jeredan and another Rioter.

Q: Why is he not Ao Shin? A: hmmmm..

User: It's an egg I'd like to crack open. Jeredan: When you do, let me know in advance. I'll be booking tickets to a pleasantly warm alternate dimension.

There's something about this egg that simply isn't natural, obviously. Why else would Bard take it outside of mortal existence where people can't mess with it? But the curious part is what Jeredan said. Alternate dimension implies that breaking the egg would cause something extremely unpleasant in our universe. Pleasantly warm could be interpreted in two ways: one, breaking the egg would unleash a universal-scale explosion of energy equivalent to the Big Bang or a Supernova, or two... Heat Death.

Either way, messing with the egg could DESTROY THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE!

Troll for Trump1 votes

eggcelent Anivia

Stars Shaper4 votes

Your post made me think... What if Aurelion Sol is to the Sun what Anivia is to the Ice?

rtbf2256182413 votes

Fire*

Ariel the Cruel1 votes

Plot twist. Sol is Anivia after the Freljoir melts from global warming.

Thanks Noxus. And probably Bandle too.

Stars Shaper1 votes

You know, I think Zaun wouldn't care much of the Ionian Protocol either.

Troll for Trump1 votes

What if Aurelion Sol is some kind of diety to Leona/ Former Diana's little group? He could then be released alongside the incoming Mount Targon update (Leona is originally from Mount Targon, maybe the cult came from it too)

The Last Ballad1 votes

Anivia represents not the ice, but the everlasting winter of the Fjord(spelled something like that).

Stars Shaper1 votes

Indeed, my ignorance.

Sharjo4 votes

I was everywhere, EVERYWHERE, and I don't recall anyone from Narrative ever mentioning that the egg had any connection to Ao Shin at all, only that the artifact was described as an egg.

If I missed that I'll cry, but I've stalked Jaredan's entire post history several times now and the post history of other folks like FauxShizzle and WAAARGHbobo to glean even the tiniest details, and I don't recall any mention of Ao Shin in relation to this weird celestial egg of weirdness.

Mimaropa1 votes

Sharjo missed a bit of Lore?

Shocking indeed

GreenLore2 votes

I doubt he missed it because I can't recall anything like that either and I pretty much read everything about the lore as well...

Sharjo1 votes

It wouldn't make much sense anyway considering the egg from Bard: Mountain was seemingly celestial in nature like Bard himself, where as Ao Shin was always portrayed as a storm dragon and a protector of the natural world. Any dragon popping out of an egg like that would be less of this:

http://36646d87786feafc0611-0338bbbce19fc98919c6293def4c5554.r0.cf1.rackcdn.com/images/5L66tNbIPNlS.878x0.Z-Z96KYq.jpg

And more of this:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-TZoZgZb07rU/U0tHladGTAI/AAAAAAAAAzs/su8AIcyIw7E/s1600/20140413195756_62080.jpg

Thuban1 votes

I thought Ao Shin was going to be that malicious spirit in the Udyr comic that attacked his temple. I don't think I got a very "protector of the natural world" vibe from that appearance.

Celio Hogane HD1 votes

Explanation about the bard is even more dick than i tough.

headcanon expanding.

Thuban4 votes

Ao is Chinese, not Japanese

4 Chinese Dragon Kings for, Northern, Western, Eastern, Southern seas. I do not recall which is which.

Ao Ch'in (Ao Chin), Ao Jun, Ao Kuang (Ao Guang), and Ao Shun.

RiotFauxSchizzle4 votes

This is a v. cool thread. Just throwing that out there. Love the discussion, theories, etc. Cookies abound.

Rito Staff1 votes

Ao Shin was the larva who was ice cocooned into "Aurelion Sol - The Butterfly" (title confirmed, ty cookie plz)

Adalore2 votes

I am expecting him/her/it to be a part of Mt.Targon due to the word origins.

Also expecting all references to the character to eventually be truncated to "Sol" while playing in game.

Looknook1 votes

That is what I have been thinking ever since I heard his name translated as "Golden Sun". I bet he comes out when they do the Mount Targons lore changes.[slayer-pantheon-rainbows]

Adalore1 votes

Aye, this is what I am thinking.

/me makes grabby hands at the champion.

He4rtkiller2 votes

Wow. Thanks for sharing this. I enjoyed reading this very much. Reading this made me much much more interested in Aurelion Sol. A cosmic related dragon would be very cool and it suits Riot as they like to make unique and non-standard characters.

CrimsonCobra32 votes

Aurelion is closest to a number of variations on the aforementioned Aurelian, and Aurelio, Aurelius, and the most common definition, to our knowledge has always been 'golden.' It probably has zero connection with butterflies. Of course, Sol does mean sun. That's a classic. Aurelion probably has its roots in latin, but a number of other European languages share the word in one or another form. (All this I learned from some quick, informed google searches.)

what you deserve2 votes

An expert on languages? You mean a cunning linguist?

MCBiggah992 votes

A few meanings: Aurelian can mean someone who is interested in butterflies, which is derived from the word aurelia for chrysalis, which, in turn, is derived from the word aurum for gold (a chrysalis gets a golden colour before the butterfly emerges) It could be a mix of languages with Aurum and Lion, which makes it the 'golden lion of the sun', which could make sense in the context of a "golden, lion-headed dragon" which relates to some aspects of the Chinese culture.

If it is derived from butterflies, it might be a faerie dragon of some sort.

Aurum can also relate to "A golden age", which makes sense considering he was linked to prosperity in his previous form, Ao Shin.

Very interesting to note is that "Sol Invictus" (Unconquered Sun) was, by theory, the name of a Greek sun god, the idea of which was introduced by an emperor named Aurelian.

The name itself does not have very many meanings one can associate with it, but there are some cool stories surrounding it.

Shadowkirby141 votes

Since Aurelian Sol is a tentative name, I believe there are names we can come up while still retaining the meaning.

Probably Aurum Sol?

Also nice thread!

NibblesIsANoob1 votes

The name doesn't seem amusing.

Shadowkirby141 votes

I know, it's just an example.

TurquoiseYoshi8 votes

Aurum Sol? So, the sun and aurum...

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General Keith2 votes

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Echoedsong1 votes

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Nilok1 votes

Aurum Sol...? ... Golden...

Is Isaac coming to LoL?!

Lost R2 votes

Language is a strange thing. It can be difficult to understand the nuances of other languages because of the various thoughts and cultures that these languages are developed in and symbiotically govern. Like I said up there, Shin in Japanese can have a variety of meanings simply based on how it is written. You think in your own language, and these thoughts don't always transfer properly to other languages.

In English, gold means the element, a color, (in context of RPGs) a currency, or non-economic value ("this idea is golden", for example, means that the idea is very valuable like gold, but generally not from an economic standpoint and not colored or made of gold because it's an intangible object and therefore can't be made of anything). Aurelian or Aureus in Latin describes something that is golden in color. So Aurelion Sol would mean "Golden Sun", or "The Sun colored gold". Aurum is the Latin name for gold the element, so Aurum Sol would mean "Gold Sun", or "The Sun is made of gold.".

Thuban1 votes

Gold Sun, at least it would be literal.

KANYE OBAMA GOD1 votes

Really cool thread, you've got my mind working now coming up with random stuff about Ao Shin Aurelion Sol. I just hope that he isn't a supp though, I want a mage that just does damage lol

PsychoTess1 votes

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Really cool thread, you've got my mind working now coming up with random stuff about Ao Shin Aurelion Sol. I just hope that he isn't a supp though, I want a mage that just does damage lol

all supports can be built full mage to do as much damage as any other primary mage, just saying this because if you take in to perspective that support mages have a few abilities that give some kind of buff it always in my opinion made support mages more powerful then primary mages ( i also want to point out that any champion that has ap scaling on their abilities can be built as a bust mage so calling a primary mage a bust mage is misleading) just for an example a Ryze that builds full ap and a Sona that builds full ap both going mid lane, the sona most definitely has the advantage. taking q right off the bat with sona and then health at 2nd level is a momentous advantage with a heal as well as a damage increase sona has an early game damage spike that doesnt drop off, and this can be said for Lulu, Alistar, Bard, etc. etc. so with that being said an ap tanky support is what im rooting for aurelion sol to be.

Headbiter1 votes

One thing I'd like to mention though....if this guy's name is supposed to be latin for "Golden Sun"....shouldn't his name be "Sol Aureus"? You know...declination and stuff.

GreenLore2 votes

It's a name,there is no need for it to be grammatically correct.

I mean Mordekaiser also translates to murder emporer,but murder emporer would actually be written as MordKaiser in german,without the "e"

Headbiter1 votes

Erm...I'm pretty sure that precisely because it's a name there should be plenty of need for it to be correct. Assuming that your name is Paul, messing up just the genus would turn you into Paula (and yes, that has its premise in grammar).

Of course you're free to argue whether that constitutes a "need" but I'd rather suggest that there's no need for it to be grammatically INcorrect if you can just as well make it correct.

And yes, I know that ultimately it matters little. My point is just that "Sol Aureus" doesn't sound any worse (personally speaking, I think it even rolls off the tongue easier) than "Aurelion Sol" and given that, why not go for the added bonus of it actually being correct.

And sidenote: No, neither Mordekaiser nor Mordkaiser are German. I know where the name comes from and that it is intended as German, but it really isn't. The word itself makes no sense. The closest thing to an actual title you could make of this would be "Kaiser des Mordes" but in either case, the best you could hope for when presenting this to a (not LoL-playing) German is a very hesitant "I guess I can imagine what you probably mean."

It's like in that one Scrubs-episode, where the supposed "German" brother asks "Warum haben meine Bruder mich gelügt?" Yes, I can gather what you're trying to say but it just makes me laugh.

GreenLore2 votes

The thing is that Aurelion sol is still its own name,almost every name has some meaning in it based on certain words and languages.

For example the name Paul comes from the latin word paulus,which means "small" or "humble",so the name is not the correct spelling of the word it is based on and the same goes for Aurelion Sols name.

And Mord-Kaiser is technically still a word in German,though "Kaiser des Mordes" would be more correct in the modern language. It's more like a title,pretty much the same principle when you call neptun a water god instead of god of water

Headbiter1 votes

Gonna make this brief, since the same answer can be applied to all three of your points:

If you think that "Aurelion Sol" is the cooler sounding name and superior to the correct latin, so that style should go over substance, fine, then make that point. But if you pull stuff out of your ass and try to sell me that shit with your barely existing grasp on linguistics I have to kindly ask you to get the fuck out.

Disagreeing with another opinion is one thing, trying to spread misinformation in an attempt to cover your stance another.

GreenLore2 votes

Lol what kind of misinformation am i spreading? thats the origin of the name paul https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/paulus

And like I said,Mordkaiser does sound awkward in german,but as a title it does function(I am german,just so that you know).

Headbiter1 votes

"what kind of misinformation am i spreading?" a) Under the pretext that "Aurelion Sol" is still approached as a latin word, it is, de facto, NOT its own name. It's just a poor grammar version of an already existing term.

b) EVERY name has a meaning, that's the whole point as to why names came up.

c) A made up name that springs forth by someone using the google translate approach is NOT the same as linguistic development that led to the phenomenon (of which I'm well aware, thanks) that certain words changed their pronounciation.

d) Whether a term in a comparatively younger langue is spelled differently than its original version in an older language is completely besides the point that I rose, namely, that grammatical changes DO have a significant impact on a word's meaning.

e) Mordkaiser, with or without a hyphen, is NOT a German word. Not technically or any other kind-ly. You can't just mush two random existing words together and proclaim the result a new, meaningful word. There's neologism and then there's bullshit.

f) The above fact has nothing to do with modern language. In fact, given how for years now the genitive has suffered being neglected in German language, to the point where people even wrote comedic books about it, it is anything BUT modern.

g) Your comparison with "water god" is utterly flawed, since that example and any similar to it, describes something that makes bloody sense. "Mord Kaiser" means absolutely nothing and can only possibly found in bullshit factories like "Bleach" and the recent "Final Fantasy"-series.

So either you don't know what you're talking about, which, I guess, is negligible, or, much worse, you KNOW what you're talking about and intentionally twist the facts, because you believe to talk with someone who lacks the necessary knowledge to call you out on that.

"(I am german,just so that you know)." Guessed so. But you know what? So am I. And I actually studied both linguistics and translation sciences. I even earn part of my income with it, imagine that. Und gemessen an dem Fakt, dass derzeit eine beängstigende Zahl an Deutschen, selbst unter Abiturienten und höheren Bildungsgraden, nicht in der Lage ist, grundlegende deutsche Sätze zu bilden, ist "Ich bin Deutscher" an sich ein lachhaft schwaches Argument.

GreenLore2 votes

Seriously calm down a bit-.- First of all: The thing is that Aurelion is not a latin word. Neither Aureus,nor Aureolus have any version of them that is spelled like Aurelion,so why wouldn't it be it's own name?

And about this whole Mordekaiser-thing,I think you misunderstood me what I meant with "technically a word": Yes Mordkaiser is not a real word,you are right on that,just like "murder emporer" is not an english word. What i meant to say is that if one would make the name "Mordekaiser" in german based on the meaning then it would be Mordkaiser and not Mordekaiser. Sorry if that was unclear.

Heaven Dynasty1 votes

Since when did ao shin became a Japanese thing? Ao is the last name of dragon in Chinese and shin means prosperity.

Lost R1 votes

The Japanese language is heavily based on Chinese, same with the Kanji characters, so you'd naturally see a lot of overlap.

loong91 votes

that is what Aurelion Sol based on. According to the archaeological evidence, the concept of the Four Symbols may have existed as early as China’s Neolithic period (some 6,000 years ago). This is based on some clam shells and bones forming the images of the Azure Dragon and the White Tiger that were found in a tomb in Henan. In addition, it is claimed that one of the artefacts from the tomb of the Marquis Yi of Zeng (c. 433 B.C.) is a lacquer-painted wardrobe with the patterns of the Four Symbols and 28 Mansions. The Azure Dragon is the mythological creature in the East, as it is said that when the seven mansions in that area (Horn, Neck, Root, Room, Heart, Tail, and Winnowing Basket) are joined up, they form the shape of a dragon. The Azure Dragon corresponds to the season of spring. As the dragon is considered by the Chinese as the noblest of animals, it is the head of the Four Symbols. Although Chinese dragons are commonly associated with water, the Azure Dragon is the exception, as its element is wood. In Chinese mythology, the dragon is regarded as a fearsome and mighty creature. Yet, unlike their Western counterparts, Chinese dragons are believed to be just, benevolent, and bringers of wealth and good fortune.

lil angel1 votes

Its kind of funny how the perception of a word changes depending on your native language. I'm spanish, and in spanish Aurelio is the cliché name of a hick farmer, so its hilarious that a cosmic dragon divinity is named Aurelion. Sol just means sun, as in latin, because it came from there and all that. Anyway, weird combination of words.

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