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Don't you love it when a champions gameplay is the total opposite of his/her lore?

SaltyToplaneGoat··3 votes·776 views

Oh hey, her we got Malphite , his lore states him to be an extredimensional earth elemental, from a dimension of absolutely harmony and peace. What's his gamplay? Beat the shit out of enemies with generic tank kit #435 while having some really unfitting lines.

Or Lux . In lore she's basicially the Demacian James Bond: sneak behind enemy lines by using her super talent for light magic for STEALTH! and get out again. I'm not for removing her ult or something (because technically if no ones surives to tell the tale it IS stealth...). But... can't we have a little bit of that secret-agent theme in her kit? And not just a spellthief skin? I mean, comeon remove her shield, rework her E a little and give her a skill like Yasou's windwall that stealths units behind it... that would be my approach...

Or Leblanc . The leader of the fearsome black rose, master of schemes and intriges. I would exect mind games, illusions and trickery when playing this champ... not "hey, it's LB, random burst mage #46".

What other champions come to mind? I don't think that those three are the only ones...

19 Comments

GreenLore4 votes

Actually leblanc is quite fitting for her lore: For one there is her passive that creates a double which only exists to confuse your enemy. then there is her W,which allows her to appear and disappear,its like she is in 2 locations at the same time.and while she can't transform into others like she can in the lore,she can mimic herself with her ult,which also allows her to play mindgames with her enemies since they can't predict how she is gonna use her ult.

SaltyToplaneGoat1 votes

Her passive is kinda the only thing, and it's nothing you as a player can actively use.

Actually, her ult is pretty predictable - it can be one of the 3 spells, if you pay attention to her gameplay pattern you even know which one.

You mentioned her W. Yes, it is INTENDED that way, but never used like that, but as a generic gap closer with build in safety machanism. You don't play mindgames with it, you only frustrate whoever you are playing against at most.

My approach would be to allow her acces to her mirror-clone actively and evenallow her to swap place with the clones without the enemy noticing. NOW you got a champ for mindgames ("Which one is real?" ^^).

GreenLore1 votes

While you can use her W as a simply gapcloser its not like you can't fool your enemy with it,but thats a problem that all champions face(I mean you can use sions unstoppable charge to run away from enemies too or use garens decisive strike to run away)

I know her kit is by no means perfect for her character,but its not completely unfitting either.

SaltyToplaneGoat1 votes

Yeah, the problem is just that Sion's ult will be used for it's intended purpose more times than for running away. (Don't get me started on garen, that outdated kit irks me when even thinking about it). You maybe use only 10% of your sion ults for running away - also the skill rewards you properly for using it as an engage with damage and some really hard cc.

On the other hand LB...

GenoXx3 votes

Aatrox is suppose to make people bloodthirsty. In gameplay he draws blood from people and meteor strikes them. Aatrox is my top main but i bought him because of his lore. I like the kit, but wheres the Friendly blood lust lol?

SaltyToplaneGoat4 votes

Yeah, he's supposed to have some form of friendly mind control, sending his "allies" into a murderous frenzy that lets them win fights even aginst the strongest numbers... There should at least be a skill that increases the damageg his team deals to targets he attacks...

Sharjo1 votes

Hell would've made more sense if his ult gave allies the bonus AS as well. That's literally all they needed to do to link that.

SaltyToplaneGoat1 votes

Yes, that would make it simple, but from a gameplay perspective AoE AS-buffs feel rather unimpactfull. I mean just look at WW or GP, their skills are mostly boring to use "shoot and forget" and not really noticeable either...

The better option would be: Aatrox marks his enemies (the one around him when he ults). Allies get bonus speed when approaching these targets as well as bonus damage. The darkin is know for "turning the tide of battle" an ult like that would actually do that...

SmknWdl1 votes

remove zekes herald and give aatrox a secondary passive similar to it?

SaltyToplaneGoat1 votes

Aura's make meh gameplay. Bad idea I guess...

Sharjo2 votes

Swain being able to transform in to a giant bird springs to mind. Always seemed odd to me.

SaltyToplaneGoat1 votes

That sound more like a narrative hole, but yeah, it's kinda the same problem. The mighty grand general of Noxus... is a bird? On top of that his lore actually tells us nothing at all... Well, since he's in need for a Sion-Level rework anyways (complete rediesign in terms of theme/gameplay)...

I still suspect that he's a Darkin tho...

GreenLore1 votes

I dunno why he'd need a complete redesign. He is not a bird,he merely transforms into one. His whole theme is basically tactician and "evil ravens" and he pretty much fills those themes pretty well.

Because the thing is simply that tactician doesn't really bring something to work with.I mean you could do something like him summoning minions,but thats more of azirs thing(and doesn't represent noxus that good).

However swains skills do play into his lore. His Q,W,E are devastating in combination.His E amplifies the damage of his other skills,so it is wise to use it first.His Q is able to slow the enemy so that you can catch them more easily with his W,or alternatively you can catch your enemy with your W first,so that they can't escape your Q. His skills are basically designed to work well together and wear down the enemy health over time for greater damage,which fits pretty good for a tacician.

As for him becoming a giant bird,thats more about the whole "might does right"-tactic of noxus,it allows swain to dive into the battle too and sets him apart from the other squishier mages.So while Swain is the schemer in the background,he is not afraid to go into a fight himself.

SaltyToplaneGoat1 votes

From a gameplay view the combination of DoT and Point&Click is already problematic...

Ok, maybe I have gone too far when I said Sion-Level, but he's in need for some updates in terms of visuals, gameplay and lore...

And from lore side... I would love to know HOW and WHY he can turn into a bird? Long years of magical training? A contract with some bird-spirit? Is he even human in the first place? It's not the problem that he has unfitting lore... the problem is thqat his lore barely tells us anything about him.

GaleWinUnleashed1 votes

Nah, he's just a badass. Shattered leg, walks into hospital and asks for a walking stick without so much as a single whimper of pain? Definitely a badass. Or a complete nutter. Not sure which.

Stars Shaper2 votes

Mordekaiser Drains life from any living beaing and enslaves souls for himself

Don't worry matey I'm running faster to protect you <3

Trylobyte2 votes

My favorite is how in Jinx's lore, she complete outmaneuvers Vi and makes her look like a fool. In game, Vi deletes Jinx easier than almost anyone else.

SaltyToplaneGoat1 votes

Well, yeah, another weird thing... at least she totally screws over cait xD although, without the ultimate, Jinx outdamages Vi by far...

I just wait until Jinx gets a companion, so it's 2vs2 if Vi and Cait go hunting for criminals ^^

GaleWinUnleashed1 votes

That would be kinda cool, tweaking E to bend light and make allies behind/inside it invisible.

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