How Long Do You Think It Will Take For Us to VU Every Champion That Has Less Than 20 Lines?

Meep Man··6 votes·748 views

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I'm guessing, sadly, a good long 3-4 years. It's just kind of depressing to think about the fact that someone like Veigar may not get a VU until I have graduated from college.

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GreenLore3 votes

In general I hope that riot forms a 3rd rework team.(even if it is just a team dedicated to do some finetuning,like new VO and animations, on champs whose model and gameplay are considered ok)

I mean at this point I'd say that reworking the old champs should be their top priority,because for new players it'll simply come off as really weird that some champs are so extremely outdated compared to others,especially if they actually start with these champs.

GreenLore2 votes

The thing is that some champs with only a few lines of dialogue got already a VU,but didn't get any new voice lines,thus they are unlikely to receive a Vu anytime soon,despite the fact that they have so few lines.

exiledFromBadmen1 votes

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Meep Man1 votes

Kassadin Shen

Arakadia1 votes

What do you mean! Alistar has such an interesting character and personality!!11!!!

For example this quote "Going".

exiledFromBadmen1 votes

"Stampede"

Arakadia1 votes

That really touched my heart. I want to know more about Alistar.

GreenLore2 votes

"you can't milk those"

The sad part is that this is his most memorable quote.....

exiledFromBadmen1 votes

Sadly, this quote isn't even unique to him. Sejuani

Meep Man1 votes

Thats not even a quote for him though

Arakadia1 votes

Pretty sure it is.

Meep Man1 votes

Nah, unless the list of quotes on various websites are lying to me, it's not. Someone does say "Going" though.

Ryuyah1 votes

I like having 1 joke and 1 taunt and 1-2 laughs (ex. old taric)

Tilts the other team so much faster than champs with like 4 jokes/taunts (ex. new taric)

exiledFromBadmen1 votes

But I liked Taric's new jokes (It's good that they preserved his old joke though)

TerraRising1 votes

This isn't a snarky answer, but take every champ that has less than 20 lines in their VO pool and divide that by two. That's the number of years it will take to get every champ's VO up to snuff.

Explanation: ChampUp only has two teams that would be working on a new VO list for reworked champs and they each only get through one rework a year (Ryze being an exception). If Riot added a third team to ChampUp, bumped up the cadence schedule or created a crew that worked entirely on new voice-overs, that number would be reduced.

Still, you're looking at not only champs that need reworks but champs that got visual upgrades in 2014 and 2015 that were skipped over for new VO lines. That leads up to a lot of years.

GreenLore1 votes

Actually I'd say 3 is more fitting.

The reworks seem to take a bit more than half a year(I think Taric and Yorik took ~7 or 8 months,if we assume that the poppy team worked on taric and the shen-team worked on yorick).

Oleandervine1 votes

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This isn't a snarky answer, but take every champ that has less than 20 lines in their VO pool and divide that by two. That's the number of years it will take to get every champ's VO up to snuff.

Explanation: ChampUp only has two teams that would be working on a new VO list for reworked champs and they each only get through one rework a year (Ryze being an exception). If Riot added a third team to ChampUp, bumped up the cadence schedule or created a crew that worked entirely on new voice-overs, that number would be reduced.

Still, you're looking at not only champs that need reworks but champs that got visual upgrades in 2014 and 2015 that were skipped over for new VO lines. That leads up to a lot of years.

This is untrue. The pace is increasing. This year we had Taric, Shen, Ryze, and Yorick. While Ryze is an exception and Shen got a half-ass update, the same teams worked on both of them. Now that they have decided against Shen style VGUs, they're going to focus more on Gangplank level and Yorick level VGUs, which means that they'll probably be able to squeeze in a third, if not fourth champion. Given that it takes roughly 6mo to remake a champ, and that there are 2 teams on working on different champs at any given time, 4 is a strong possibility per year since they will no longer be doing half reworks. Furthermore, Taric's team jumped in on Ryze, who was already half complete, but if he wasn't, there was still plenty of time in the year to get another VGU in from that team.

Already, Warwick is scheduled to come out early January, and if Galio is in production as we speak, since Yorick's team shifted over to him after his completion, that'll put him at around February/March coming out. If we assume that the teams jump to new champs after they finish Warwick and Galio, the WW Team's next champ will arrive in June, and the Galio Team's next champ will arrive in September. So it's very feasible to get more than 2 VGUs a year now.

TerraRising1 votes

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This is untrue. The pace is increasing. This year we had Taric, Shen, Ryze, and Yorick. While Ryze is an exception and Shen got a half-ass update, the same teams worked on both of them. Now that they have decided against Shen style VGUs, they're going to focus more on Gangplank level and Yorick level VGUs, which means that they'll probably be able to squeeze in a third, if not fourth champion. Given that it takes roughly 6mo to remake a champ, and that there are 2 teams on working on different champs at any given time, 4 is a strong possibility per year since they will no longer be doing half reworks. Furthermore, Taric's team jumped in on Ryze, who was already half complete, but if he wasn't, there was still plenty of time in the year to get another VGU in from that team.

Let's get some facts straight:

There are two main teams working on Updates within ChampUp.

The team that worked on Sion (2014) and Poppy (2015) worked on Yorick (2016). This is the team that is going to work on Galio for 2017.

A second team that worked on Taric finished Ryze and is currently working on Warwick.

Officially, we don't know who worked on Shen.

Additionally, I have no idea where you get this "it takes six months" to remake a champ notion from. That's not an estimate from Riot itself, that's for sure. Thus far, the fastest transition for a full rework (Ryze is an outlier) has been nearly 9 months (from Poppy to Yorick).

Already, Warwick is scheduled to come out early January, and if Galio is in production as we speak, since Yorick's team shifted over to him after his completion, that'll put him at around February/March coming out. If we assume that the teams jump to new champs after they finish Warwick and Galio, the WW Team's next champ will arrive in June, and the Galio Team's next champ will arrive in September. So it's very feasible to get more than 2 VGUs a year now.

This timeline is pure fantasy. You do know that, right?

Where did you get the idea that Warwick is coming out in early January? I've seen nothing official about that except for some fanciful and wishful thinking from players. Same goes with Galio being finished by around February/March.

You are making way too many assumptions that ChampUp's production schedule will escalate, my friend.

Oleandervine1 votes

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Let's get some facts straight:

There are two main teams working on Updates within ChampUp.

The team that worked on Sion (2014) and Poppy (2015) worked on Yorick (2016). This is the team that is going to work on Galio for 2017.

A second team that worked on Taric finished Ryze and is currently working on Warwick.

Officially, we don't know who worked on Shen.

Additionally, I have no idea where you get this "it takes six months" to remake a champ notion from. That's not an estimate from Riot itself, that's for sure. Thus far, the fastest transition for a full rework (Ryze is an outlier) has been nearly 9 months (from Poppy to Yorick).

This timeline is pure fantasy. You do know that, right?

Where did you get the idea that Warwick is coming out in early January? I've seen nothing official about that except for some fanciful and wishful thinking from players. Same goes with Galio being finished by around February/March.

You are making way too many assumptions that ChampUp's production schedule will escalate, my friend.

I'm not making assumptions actually. I'm using information, and extrapolating from there. Riot has stated that Warwick will be relaunched in the late preseason. This means that, considering that the seasons usually start in late January, he'll be dropping somewhere between Christmas and January 15-20ish. Considering that Taric and Ryze's team jumped on to Warwick after Ryze's relaunch in July, that means that Warwick's production time is estimated by Riot themselves to be 5-6 months, given that their estimated relaunch date falls into that time frame from the start on Warwick after Ryze to the estimated drop date in late preseason.

TerraRising1 votes

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I'm not making assumptions actually. I'm using information, and extrapolating from there.

What do you think "extrapolation" means? It means "making assumptions from available data." So, yes, you actually are making assumptions, but I question where you get your data from. (To be fair, I am making assumptions on my part, but I have historical data to back up my extrapolations.)

Riot has stated that Warwick will be relaunched in the late preseason. This means that, considering that the seasons usually start in late January, he'll be dropping somewhere between Christmas and January 15-20ish.

Where and when did they say this? I've looked on the boards, on Reddit and on Google to corroborate this and I can't find anything that backs this notion up.

Considering that Taric and Ryze's team jumped on to Warwick after Ryze's relaunch in July, that means that Warwick's production time is estimated by Riot themselves to be 5-6 months, given that their estimated relaunch date falls into that time frame from the start on Warwick after Ryze to the estimated drop date in late preseason.

Again, where did Riot say that Warwick's rework will be ready during preseason?

The only way I can guess that could be true is if this ChampUp team piggybacked on the work previously done by ZenonTheStoic's team in 2014.

Even so, that doesn't mean that this particular ChampUp team could start from scratch (no previous iterations to work off of) and get a full rework done in 6 months, nor does it mean that the Sion/Poppy/Yorick crew would be compelled to speed up production. That's not something Riot normally does, preferring to make sure things are ready before they're released.

Tesla Effect1 votes

Hell of a long time. They haven updated all the old splash arts for the VU champions, and the art is easier to do than voice over due to the sheer amount of dialogue you need to do + different languages + getting the actors to do the voice over in a time when they can.

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