The PROJECT Thread to end all PROJECT threads (Why Yone Doesn't Work)

Ironclad Dragon··33 votes·5,316 views

Sorry to burst your collective bubble, but it's extremely unlikely Yone will ever be a champion. Submit your downvotes and let them fall in a righteous downpour, but I'm going to give you five reasons why Yone probably in't the "mystery" champion of the PROJECT. This isn't an attack on you if you think or thought it's Yone, but I've gotten tired of all the Yone speculation when everything points to otherwise. Again, this isn't to hate on you; I simply wish to shed a new light on the subject.

  1. It'd Be A Poor Choice

First off, it'd be a poor choice on Riot's part to first showcase a champion with a skin first. Would we look at Tahm Kench the same way if he was first shown as a koi fish master chef, or easily connect Azir with Shurima and the desert if he first appeared as a spacefaring extraterrestrial? "This could be Yone's default appearance! It's happened before, like people getting Shuriman skins when Azir came out!" Okay, why would Yone be cybernetic at all? Dude's Ionian. Which brings me to my second point:

  1. It Conflicts With Riot's Standards

They preach this time and again, when Riot makes a new character, they want to explore a new avenue of thought. Where would Yone fit into that ideal? If he wants vengeance, what'd differentiate him from Graves (pre-Burning Tides), another champion who wanted to enact vengeance on another? If he doesn't want vengeance but his memories are surpressed, what'd differentiate him from Sion? If his existence is torment, what separates him from Urgot? And if he's actually chill with being a cybernetic zombie, the hell am I looking at? I doubt Yone would be fine with that, and if his original personality isn't intact at all, what's the point of having Yone at all and not someone else who could have a story of their own? Just for the "drama" of having Yasuo face his brother again? Poor excuse. Even if Yone being resurrected as a cybernetic zombie story somehow got the green light, what'd differentiate him in-game from PROJECT Yasuo? They'd both be swordsmen with "Project" particles. Different abilities, sure, but similar stance and training. Would you honestly be fine with buying Yasuo all over again?

  1. People Have Speculated Him Before

And probably will continue to. People have speculated Yone being added as a champion for a long time. Some people even thought he'd make it in way back when Yasuo was first teased, even though Yasuo freaking killed him.

It's an unfortunate reality, but too many people are too eager to mash their faintest dreams into something that clearly doesn't fit. Some theories are so wishy-washy, I lose faith in any credibility they could have. Like the "Seven Deadly Sins" theory, which fluctuates whenever a vaguely-malevolent champion has come out. Shadow Isles, the Void, Tahm Kench; none of those jive. And when people do try to localize the theory into something more buyable, they're forced to make ill-fitting choices. Why? Because they're trying to make something out of what isn't there.

  1. He's Dead

Most importantly, the dude is dead. You might argue, "Well, it was never confirmed!" Yasuo buried Yone, it's written as plain as day in Yasuo's lore. "Well, maybe he lied about that!" Okay, if the third-person narrative is somehow unreliable, then for what reason would Yasuo lie about killing his own brother? And if he didn't kill his brother, why does he feel so irredeemable? "Well, maybe Yone was resurrected?" By whom, I ask you. "Someone from Piltover or Zaun, like Jayce or Viktor." Jayce raising someone from the dead is entirely out of character and illogical. Neither would Viktor have a reason to bring back some random Ionian dude from the dead. Why would he resurrect Yone, when he can easily convert the living and willing? And if he could raise the dead to build an army, why resurrect a single Ionian far from Zaun? "Well, maybe the Shadow Isles did it!" Okay, more believable. But why would Yone be a champion more than anyone the Isles would raise up? "Maybe Kalista would raise him up to enact vengeance on his brother." From what we've seen, Kalista makes deals with the living who have nothing else to live for, though nothing says Kalista can't make a Pact with the dead. But if Kalista could raise up Yone from death, why doesn't she do that to every wronged person in the world? (Though again, nothings says that Kalista can't or hasn't already done that exact thing.)

  1. There's Strong Evidence That It's Yi

This is the part of my argument that can be taken with a grain of salt. I have reasons to believe that it's Yi, but make of them as you will. Okay, in a recent update, all the colors and weapons of the PROJECT members were revealed. The topmost one and most ambiguous is a sort of golden-yellow, and the weapon showcased is some kind of blade. All the colors correspond to their respective champion; Yasuo orange (back when I think a color scheme wasn't established; he'd probably be blue were he made now), Lucian light orange (like the color of his blaster VFX), Leona sun yellow, Fiora pink, and Zed red. The golden-orange matches up best with Master Yi's effects, which are pretty gold-orange-yellow.

Alas though, the blade doesn't resemble Yi's sword. The blade IS named the Hyperlight "Alpha" Blade, like Yi's Q is named Alpha Strike, and the blade's specifications do say it's meant for "multi-target combat", which is exactly what Yi does when he Q's, but it doesn't resemble any blade of his. Lucian's pistols still look like his pistols, Leona's shield her shield, etc. The rest of the weapons are easily identifiable from their base form. That, I will admit, can't be refuted. The blade IS different from Yi's.

But that doesn't mean it can't be his. See, just because skins are part of the same line doesn't mean they're all the same price. Refer to Battlecast Skarner and Kog'Maw, two skins released at the same time but with different prices. Skarner got the more expensive of the two, but subsequently came with more stuff. He got a whole new voice-over as well as effects and model. Kog'Maw got the slightly cheaper one, not having a new VO. This shows that not all skins, even of the same line, are made equal. The same might just happen with PROJECT. Plus, Riot has made the topmost PROJECT candidate more ominous than the rest, saying things like "Trace lost" or "Data corrupted". They're hiding the "truth" that has appeared time and again in this skin-line tease. Based on prior experience with similar handling of upcoming content, this "mystery" should naturally be of a higher order than the rest. Put simply, you save the best for last, right? You don't spoil the biggest surprise, what has more gravitas, etc. And what'd have greater gravitas than a new Legendary skin, or, heavens forbid, Ultimate? (I doubt it being an Ultimate really)

We've already established that prices vary even in the same skin line at the same release. And since the sword is very different from Yi usually wields, that'd imply he'd need new animations to wield it properly. And people have been craving for a futuristic Master Yi skin for years (I argue Headhunter Yi is pretty rugged, too much so to qualify). Maybe you've seen the "Pulsefire Master Yi" fan-art that countless people have cried out for Riot to add in. What better way for Riot to realize that dream the fan base has conceived?

Now, one last piece of evidence before you go: The mysterious face that's tied with this whole PROJECT. It clearly has multiple "eyes", that much is abundantly clear. This has made some people to believe the champ is Jax, which I can't blame them for. The eyes closely resemble Headhunter Yi's eyes in their spacing, but it can be argued against. But here's something: The helmet has something going on with its top: A plume of sorts, similar to how PROJECT Yasuo's hair sticks out from beneath his helmet. If you look across all of Master Yi's skins, he usually has something going on with his helmet toward the back of his head. A plume wouldn't be out of the question, would you think?

Just food for thought.

58 Comments

Radnar the bold14 votes

Thank you. people need to stop using little details to assume its a champ when all fingers point to an 1850 skin.

Ironclad Dragon10 votes

You'll be needing this, friend. Let us endure the inevitable torrent of downvotes together. http://media.giphy.com/media/lShOQ8lMmoHqE/giphy.gif

Jeddy0172 votes

*1820 But yeah,it's probably a legendary tier skin.

Plus,Riot has stated that they're shifting to a balance focus for the next 2 patches so Worlds can have a stable patch to be played on.Adding a new champ in the 5.17 patch means that they would have only 1 patch to buff or nerf the new champ before it comes to Worlds.

Radnar the bold2 votes

exactly, my guess is its gonna be like last year, where there isnt a champ for a while, but then we are gonna have like 3-4 before the end of the year. Maybe even a daruis/draven situation where they have them connected.

Tesla Effect5 votes

Definitely not Yone (cant believe someone would have thought as such). PROJECT: Yi is the safest assumption, but the sword doesnt look anything like Yis. It could be just a stylistic approach to it, but its a weird sword non the less. Yi fits the description,..... Hyperlight "Alpha" Blade (they make an emphasis on the Alpha), Yi has an ability called Alpha Strike. Also: 098X FUSION EDGE Hyperlight core provides precision balance and lossless energy distribution. “Alpha” fusion blade highly compatible with multi-target combat.

Multiple-target combat, definitely fitting Yis combat style.

And the six eyes are placed in the same fashion as Headhunter Yis. Now that Yi is probably getting a legendary futuristic skin, Headhunter seems obsolete.

PS: I secretly wished for PROJECT: Quinn, but oh well, probably next time...

The Quinndred2 votes

Rest in ripperonis, PROJECT: Quinn. That has been my wallpaper ever since I have seen the damn thing. It was such a beautiful concept too. Ah well. Better luck when they make (hopefully) make more.

GenoXx3 votes

Anyone who think it's Yone is utterly ignorant. Yasuo killed him in his lore

Rabid Husky3 votes

awsome post all the thanks, i've seen far to many posts of people screaming this is yone almost as much as ive seen hate for adcs lol. really tho thank you for taking the time and effort to write a solid enjoyable and interesting post that alot of people should see. as for your yi theory sound very sound we could argue xin kayle and jax are all possibility's for this skin hell a couple of my friends think the weapons rengars since hes the only one with a double sided weapon. personally i cant wait for this new batch of metal gear revengence skins and its always refreshing to see other people with brains trying to share that intelligence with the rest of the community. even if its just one im upvoteing this have a good night and stay awsome

Legacy of Xion3 votes

PBE Updated.

It's fucking Yi.

Ironclad Dragon3 votes

Someone pick up the phone, because I called it!

Legacy of Xion1 votes

{quoted}

Someone pick up the phone, because I called it!

Now o have to get Yi, that voice over is BADASS.

RIOT. MY WALLET. MY WALLET IS SCREAMING. YI AND LEONA AND RIVEN AND AHRI OMFG TOO MUCH.

LANWhale2 votes

After reading this post (a good one at that) I went back to look at all the weapons and kinda realized something in regards to the Yi weapon theory.

At first I was trying to find a away for it to fit in with Yi and while i couldn't find a way for it to work out i cam upon another realization.

What if its Xin Zhao?

I mean look at the picture with the PROJECT skin, the hair flows long and has a little knot at the base of it just like Xin. Also notice the shoulder pads they look alot like many of Xin's shoulder pads. As well the weapon seems like it would be held with both hands rather than one.

But then comes the whole "Alpha" thing they used. Which makes sense for it to be Yi but then I read the other side that it is made and how it is made to hit multiple enemies. While yes Yi has his Alpha strike which hits multiple people, Xin as well can hit multiple people. And lets not forget the Color theory You purposed, what color does Xin wear the most? Yellow.

Now going back to the whole "Alpha" thing why would they use this word if it wasn't a hint towards Yi? Well it could totally be possible they are doing that to throw us off and throw a curve-ball and we all know how much riot likes to surprise us.

But hey I might be reading to deep into this and it might just be a Yi skin I mean there is enough hints to it, the word "Alpha" being used and the fact they point out how it can figure out the weak points of the enemy, suggesting it would do true damage.

Ironclad Dragon2 votes

I did initially think it was Xin Zhao for the same reasons, but I'm still on the fence. It's a good chance it IS Yi, but there's a strong chance it's Xin Zhao. After all, I did think the topmost weapon looked like a spear at first.

LANWhale2 votes

Ya i'm still on the fence too.

Tyaldan2 votes

What if thats not hair behind him, but a tail? Could be wukong, who also does multi target combat and has yellow. Could also explain the data lost, as if it disappeared after a few seconds, smacking all the other data around it.

Krigjer2 votes

I'm learning not to visit the forums anytime after a teaser for a skin or champion is released.

mikesomms2 votes

[SPOLIER]

LoL skins Wiki has already been updated.. the new skins are for Fiora, Zed, Leona, Lucian, and Master Yi, in addition to Yasuo.. (@_@)

Legacy of Xion1 votes

Wikis are made and updated by fans not Riot.

mikesomms3 votes

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Wikis are made and updated by fans not Riot.

Except its also confirmed on P.B.E. too now so..

I guess Fans were right.

Legacy of Xion1 votes

Only Zed and Fiora are confirmed on PBE.

The final skin is still up in the air.

TwinkiePro2 votes

no, they aren't. I can confirm that @fantasticorange is correct as all these skins are on the PBE.

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

Come on, nothing is going to stop the PROJECT threads.

Ironclad Dragon3 votes

No, but I like to think stirred the hornet's nest.

Radnar the bold3 votes

no, I dont mind the project threads. (even though we can guess who all the champs are) we just want people to stop saying "THERES A NEW CHAMP COMFIRMED" or "YONE IS OUT NEXT" when alot of signs point to a big now. Im just tired of so many threads saying how there is a new champ coming.

Ironclad Dragon2 votes

Exactly. Riot even said they've had to push back the next champion to prepare for Worlds.

Meep Man1 votes

Kalista could raise him from the dead. To get revenge on the brother who killed him and betrayed Ionia.

Ironclad Dragon1 votes

From what we've seen, Kalista makes deals with the living who have nothing else to live for, though nothing says Kalista can't form a pact with the dead. But if Kalista could raise up Yone from death, why doesn't she do that to every wronged person in the world? (Though again, nothings says that Kalista can't or hasn't already done that exact thing.)

Tesla Effect4 votes

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Kalista could raise him from the dead. To get revenge on the brother who killed him and betrayed Ionia.

Thats stretching it a bit to far. While there are ways to bring the dead back up, Yone wasnt that special and the manner of his death made it clear that he is not coming back. Also his death was an integral part of Yasuos story and character progression (or regression to be precise), bringing him back wont add to anything, it will actually subtract in a sense that now we have a zombie going around trying to kill his brother cause of something that he thought was true, even thought it not.

GreenLore2 votes

Kalista doesn't raise the dead,she takes your soul as payment,so if anything yones soul would be a part of Kalista. Then there is the fact that Yasuo was with Yone,if yone wanted to make a pact with kalista,he would have needed to do so while he is still alive,but yasuo didn't saw kalista,so she wasn't there.

Also kalista won't help with every kind of vengance. She wants to punish betrayers,nothing more,nothing less. Yone wasn't betrayed by Yasuo,so there is no way Kalista would offer any help to him.

Cardmant1 votes

Here you go, translate it and put this on this thread. CONFIRMED not a new champ. np ^^ http://boards.las.leagueoflegends.com/es/c/charlas-generales/bUkxbulM-el-6to-proyecto-sera-un-campean-nuevo?comment=0013

Ironclad Dragon5 votes

Translated from Riot Sir DaL:

Hello everyone ! Something that was never our intention is to create the expectation that it will launch a new champion in PROJECT. PROJECT is a line of skins that is part of an alternative futuristic universe. It has nothing to do with the main story Lore or League of Legends. That said, I can confirm without a doubt that is the image is NOT a new champion :) I hope to have guided toward the light and, above all , protect a disappointment the day of announcement.

Tesla Effect2 votes

{quoted}

Translated from Riot Sir DaL:

As I suspected and was confirmed, its is an Alternate future skin line, just like the Battlecast, Steel Legion and couple others.

GreenLore1 votes

I doubt your theory about color schemes. Yasuos is simply orange,because that is the color scheme for Project Yasuo. I mean lucians skills aren't light orange like you say,they are yellow,blue and white,but not orange. But his project skin will probably have orange effects.

Also the problem with yis blade is readability. If he has a completely different weapon,he isn't instantly recognizeable as Yi.Thats why Blitzcrank has a round body and giant hands in every skin,thats why garen always has a large 2-hander as a weapon,etc.

And them hiding any info about this last project can go both ways. On the one hand it might tease an upcoming legendary skin,like you say,but on the other hand it might also mean that a new champ is going to be released together with a project skin and the "trace lost" is because they don't want to give us any info on him/her yet,because the champ won't be released with the rest of the project skins.

Ironclad Dragon1 votes

I've already said Yasuo is orange most likely because the PROJECT Skin Line didn't exist then, so they just wanted to differentiate him from his classic skin in a big way. And Lucian's abilities icons (at least) are orangish-yellow, with a blue outline.

GreenLore1 votes

If the colors were related to the basic look of the champs,then they would have most likely just taken white or light blue for lucian,basing the color of the skin on the color of some of his skill icons would be really odd.

Not to mention that none of Lucians skill icons don't even look orange,the only one that has a slight orangish tone is the icon for the W,but even that has a different color. http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Lucian

Shonjl1 votes

That is not entirely true, first thing that comes to mind is Nasus. His base skin has a giant 2 handed Axe. His Riot skin he is using a simple Baton. And they are in no shape or form similar to each other. Sure its far fetched that that weapon is Yi's, it isn't impossible since anything that is semi looks like a sword is more than within his realm of weaponry.

GreenLore1 votes

Uhm they are not similar in shape?I think you should look at its ingame model first. http://leagueskincodes.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/riot-k9-nasus-in-game.jpg

it even has its grip at the same place where the blade would normally be.

Anyway,its been confirmed that its Yi and that his blade only transforms for his ult.

Dezudekiddo1 votes

One thing that doesn't make sense is that the "Memory_Trace" number which you can see when you click the grey triangles, are the exact same for both Project Yasuo and the very top one... and If it's Yi... Then why?

Kritty1 votes

To keep speculation going just like it is now?

That's one of the few things that's keeping people from believing that it's Yi outright.

HexaDecimel1 votes

I thought Riot stated that the new champion wouldn't come out until after Worlds.

Radnar the bold4 votes

They did, people just dont read and like to make assumptions.

HexaDecimel1 votes

lol, well I am pretty sure it is MasterYi

Radnar the bold2 votes

that or jax, but my money is more on yi. People just need to wait for the PBE update rather than jump on a hype train that has no tracks.

HexaDecimel2 votes

The hype train is super fast and fun to ride, just don't spend all your money on one ride. I am adjusting my last comment, I think it is either MasterYi or XinZhao

Rozzeta1 votes

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Ironclad Dragon1 votes

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Nothing more than a simple way to evade the fact that Yi currently has not personality or motivation other than being the last Wu Ju master.

What.

Rozzeta1 votes

Ops, Wrong thread. By the way, this was in reference to the fact Yi does not have any comments the PROJECT promo, and simply has the corrupt data link from the start.

EpicFailExpert1 votes

Im just confused: How yi is even related to "do not trust corrupted memories" ?

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