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The new arcade skins are cool but Xerath hasn't had a skin since 2015

Apostle of Light··94 votes·20,971 views

A few others have waited forever as well (can't remember off the top of my head).

Dark Star and Arcade are perfectly good skin lines for Xerath to fit into. But alas, the neglect continues. [cass-cry]

103 Comments

Apostle of Light49 votes

I just realized Kai'sa will now have more skins than Xerath. That's 5 skins in ~15 months for Kai vs 0 skins in over 4 years for Xer.

Bullet Angel, K/DA, Prestige K/DA, IG, Arcade (5 or 4.5 if you don't count Prestige as a full skin) vs Battlecast, Runeborn, Scorched Earth, GotS (4)

AbiwonKenabi9 votes

In Riot's defense, E-Sports skins aren't their call, they are a reward for the players, and JackeyLove picked Kai'Sa. That said, it IS a little strange how Riot is releasing so many skins for her. Feels like K/DA just came out.

Agent Corgi3 votes

Let's not forget that Kai'Sa is roughly a year old, released 3-7-18. Yet she has received 4 to 5 skins in that time period.

Ornn Where's the love for League's Blacksmith?Ornn Ornn was released 8-23-17 and currently still only has 1 skin, Thunderlords Ornn

Infernape2 votes

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Let's not forget that Kai'Sa is roughly a year old, released 3-7-18. Yet she has received 4 to 5 skins in that time period.

Ornn Where's the love for League's Blacksmith?Ornn Ornn was released 8-23-17 and currently still only has 1 skin, Thunderlords Ornn

No one plays Ornn so Riot has no one to milk for money. Unpopular champs don't tend to get a lot of skins.

I'm saying this as someone that enjoys playing Ornn.

Bob the Toastr3 votes

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I just realized Kai'sa will now have more skins than Xerath. That's 5 skins in ~15 months for Kai vs 0 skins in over 4 years for Xer.

Bullet Angel, K/DA, Prestige K/DA, IG, Arcade (5 or 4.5 if you don't count Prestige as a full skin) vs Battlecast, Runeborn, Scorched Earth, GotS (4)

Not to mention that battlecast and runeborn are practically chromas

TrikzterzArma41 votes

Better give Kai'Sa her fifth skin in a year

łnśane29 votes

2 legendaries back to back (ez and jhin) and 2 MORE adcs are getting skins (kaisa/caitlyn) plus tristana. Like hot damn xD what happened to other champs? Other classes?

I was hoping Xerath gets another skin, lol was planning on picking him up jeez. I bet more adcs will get skins next cycle.

Sukishoo3 votes

I'm almost positive we'll see a few more ADC skins in the other popular themes like Project and Star Guardian this year as well. Bet things like Ashe, Sivir (even though she already had Bloodmoon), Xayah, Jinx will sneak their way into those themes. I'd say Fortune too but she has GG which would have a similar idea to Project... so eh maybe not her.

Toophishy1 votes

Imagine being correct about how ADCs are the only ones that are getting skins But seriously hot damn, within this post, Ashe got High Noon, Xayah got Star Guardian, Jinx gets Project, I'm starting to notice a pattern here...

KestrelGirl26 votes

I was genuinely expecting Battle Boss Xerath. I have no idea what to expect anymore.

Velzard of Koz3 votes

Nothing really. In universe where Yasuo is better fit for Battle Boss than Xerath, Vel'Koz or any other monster champ they might as well openly say fuck you tot hose palyers who play them.

AbiwonKenabi3 votes

Yasuo isn't really an ill fit, but I agree that Xerath is a better fit. Feels like the Battle Boss skin line was made for him, the only Champ I'd say fits better is Veigar, who was obviously well taken care of.

Arcade Lulu25 votes

Udyr, Skarner, Xerath, Zilean

[zombie-nunu-bummed]

OtterlyLost19 votes

At least with Dark Star, they gave them to champs that don't get a huge amount of skins; Karma doesn't have a lot of really good skins and Shaco, as much I as I hate the champion and think he's toxic, hasn't had a skin in years. Even Jhin doesn't have a ton though he's definitely more popular.

I'm not sure how I feel about their choices for the Arcade this year though. Especially since I think Kai'sa's isn't very good. :/ Something about her anatomy is off in the splash art and I feel like the way she's positioned isn't very good.

Jerry SeinfeId12 votes

At least with Dark Star, they gave them to champs that don't get a huge amount of skins; Karma doesn't have a lot of really good skins and Shaco, as much I as I hate the champion and think he's toxic, hasn't had a skin in years. Even Jhin doesn't have a ton though he's definitely more popular.

when you look at skins compared to a champion's age jhin stands on top. But hey the boards like jhin so it's ok.

Larriet2 votes

Yeah, I was seeing comments that "Kai'Sa is the new Lux", but wouldn't it be "the new Jhin" more than anyone else?

4 Step Cadence1 votes

Champions that get 1 or more skin yearly = Lux/Ezreal tier. Champions that get 1 or more skins every other year = Jhin tier.

Though I still think its too early to put Kai'Sa into any tier, considering that she's still just a year old, while Jhin is 3. She could get more skins in the coming years, or none at all.

Yasuo is Lux/Ezreal tier at this point though, since he got Nightbringer, Odyssey, and Battle Boss all in a row.

Larriet3 votes

Jhin is not "every other year"; he's gotten 4 in 3 years, not counting release. Even if you don't count SKT T1 because it's "not part of the regular skin schedule", that's still 1 a year.

4 Step Cadence1 votes

Jhin is every other year. He got 3 skins in 2017(Blood Moon, SKT, and PROJECT), none in 2018, and Dark Cosmic in 2019.

Larriet6 votes

By that logic, Lux isn't yearly either, since she got skins in 2011, 2013, 2015, 2016, and 2018 and now 2019.

floo1 votes

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when you look at skins compared to a champion's age jhin stands on top. But hey the boards like jhin so it's ok.

Kai'Sa has been on top with her 4th skin already. For Jhin it's been 21 months between release and Project, 40 for his 5th skin DS. Kai'Sa received her 4th skin IG within 13 months, her 5th after 15 aka in 2 weeks.

Jerry SeinfeId2 votes

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Kai'Sa has been on top with her 4th skin already. For Jhin it's been 21 months between release and Project, 40 for his 5th skin DS. Kai'Sa received her 4th skin IG within 13 months, her 5th after 15 aka in 2 weeks.

yeah the prestige(forgot about this one) and team skins really bumped her up, doesn't change the fact that both are doing the same thing. yet kai'sa gets shit for it and noone here ever seems to be bothered when jhin gets another one.

King Braum12 votes

Meanwhile Kai'sa, "In case y’all forgot: Kai’Sa was released in March 2018 and now, just shy of a year, will have 4 epic skins and 1 mythic skin. That’s five skins. In a year."

  • Some random guy in the Arcade Kai'Sa comments
Brotha11 votes

I've been expecting Arcade Ekko since his release. His particles look like they could be made for that skin. But hey better give Kaisa another skin and dump the other arcade skin on a champion with barely any particles to even show off.

Stars Shaper10 votes

It’s Riot Skin Team, not justice nor common sense that decides who gets a skin and which.

GreenLore9 votes

Honestly I'm kinda disappointed about the battleboss skins.

I mean what kind of boss do Qiyana and yasuo represent? Sure there are some Samurai bosses, but Samurais can be just as often player characters and Qiyana looks like she just got the boss skin because she gets released in the same patch and happens to be a more antagonistic character.

AbiwonKenabi3 votes

Yasuo kind of reminds me of Meta Knight or something similar, or more specifically those reflex mini-games in the Kirby series, where Meta Knight is the hardest guy to beat. Qiyana is like one of those snooty female bosses, I feel like her personality fits with a campy female Arcade villain. But I agree they aren't the BEST fit, they just fit ok.

GreenLore2 votes

Honestly I wish they had pulled a dragon master swain on this skin release and given us Battle Boss Mordekaiser given that the "tin tyrant" is one of the most common boss characters in fantasy video games.

Camille Ferrøs9 votes

BUT Kai'sa didn't get a skin in 2 minutes. Please get in line.

9NINE7 votes

well, he's not a female humanoid so nope. no skin for him.

Jaspers3 votes

Taliyah and Kalista are. Sorry, forgot, not allowed to be good because of pro so not popular.

Larriet2 votes

I feel Taliyah is less popular because she's unusually mechanically inclined for a mage, not strictly because she's not strong without co-ordination.

Sancre6 votes

Honestly, Boss Xerath and Glitched/Bugged Boss Mordekaiser seemed like a given, one due to demand and the other due to the recently baked rework and the inmense amount of memes about Morde's bugs, but neither got made...

Sukishoo5 votes

Oooo I never thought of that one. Glitch Boss. Now that could be a fun theme to have. He like flickers in and out.

Sheogowrath6 votes

The reaction to this decision by Riot is so laughably predictable that there's only 2 options here:

  1. Riot is incompetent
  2. Riot simply doesn't care and is more interested in quick cash grabs

Take your pick

Apostle of Light10 votes

From a business perspective I can see why they focus on popular champions (i.e. Ezreal, Lux, Kai'sa), but Xerath still has a half-decent pick rate so I still don't get why it's been so incredibly long

AbiwonKenabi5 votes

I don't know why they did ALL hyper popular Champion skins for this theme. Like with Dark Star, they had Jhin (who is very popular, a money maker if you will) and then they had Shaco (who hasn't had a skin in years) and Karma (who has had some good skins in the past, but doesn't have a ton). That seems more balanced, like yeah, obviously some of the skins are going to be for the more popular Champions, but as long as some are going to the more niche or even Champs of middling popularity like Xerath, Karma, Ornn, Rek'Sai, etc, then its fine. I just find it unusual, mostly.

Camille Ferrøs2 votes

truer words were never spoken

Fighter Ignite15 votes

The Yasuo skin does not even fit well. It kinda just looks like they slapped some arcade particles on him and said, "ok this works."

14daysuspensionk4 votes

People, we need to stop focusing on complaining about gameplay and start complaining about the skins they're making.

Beginning3 votes

Kalista only has Championship and a team skin. Taliyah also only has a team skin. Seems like once they get team skins, Riot won't bother.

Sukishoo3 votes

Popular in pro-play to where they were gutted elsewhere, so of course NO SKINS FOR THEM [zombie-nunu-tears]

mack91123 votes

Kinda let down tbh

4 Step Cadence3 votes

I stated this in another thread, but I'll say it here too.

They are probably alternating between forgotten champions and popular champions so that they don't lose too much money. For example, Shaco was in the "1000 days" club, and he just got a new skin. So, now, its time for a full cast of "popular champions". Next release, they'll probably give another "forgotten" champion a skin.

Don't give up hope yet. There's still time.

KICK OUT AT 22 votes

There's too many champions to give them all a skin, they gotta choose high profit champs.

Novae Idyllica1 votes

I'm hoping both Zilean and Xerath get project skins this year. While thematically they may not be the best candidates, visually I think they would be amazing .

4 Step Cadence1 votes

They won't. Program maybe, but not PROJECT. PROJECT is for non-magic humans only if I'm not mistaken.

Novae Idyllica1 votes

Ahhh I'm the worst about mixing the two, I saw Project on the list of repeated skin lines coming this year and Program just totally slipped my mind

ConDiQuyenChinh1 votes

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Ahhh I'm the worst about mixing the two, I saw Project on the list of repeated skin lines coming this year and Program just totally slipped my mind

Program Nami received mixed reactions and Program Leblanc (or "Proscam" according to her mains) was one of the most hated skins that Riot released that year, even now LeBlanc mains are still extremely salty about Program after they got a nice team skin, I'm pretty sure that they're not gonna release any more skins in that skinline.

Program Liss is prolly the only skin from that theme that I saw people use in game.

Chembaron Yamada2 votes

Really? Why do people hate the Program skins for Nami and Leblanc? I thought they were pretty good, especially the Nami one.

If this is true, that makes me really sad, since I would love to see more champions added to the Program line...

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