Would a hero like HOTS's Abathur work in League of Legends?

VegetaPrince2266·5/28/2018, 7:51:33 AM·1 votes·1,714 views
Abathur

Please don't destroy me for mentioning Heroes of the Storm and League of Legends in the same breath, they are both games i like very much.

But i thought of would a hero like abathur work in LoL. When i explain his kit remember is balanced around Heroes of the storm, so just basicly look at the general idea and think about how it would work.

Keep in mind that HOTS doesnt have items. So he has to be rebalanced to take items into consideration.

To shortly sum him up. He is a spesial hero who has 0 survival capability for the entire match. He start with belowe average health and it doesn't get better from there and his melee damage is on the level of that of IvernIvern (Not counting Daisy) ,No armor or magic resist. But his abilities give him constant map wide suport and influence. He has no mana or rescource system, all you need with him is cooldown management.

TL;DR at the bottom.

His Passive is a two parter :

1 - Locust swarm : Abathur spawns a locust every 15 seconds that joins the minion wave of the lane closest to abuther. Abathur only stops spawning Locusts when he is put into a form of stasis (Excluding his Q) or when he is dead.

As Abathur levels up the locusts becomes ranged minions and later gains the ability to deal splash damage and deal splash damage when killed.

The locusts last for 30 seconds then dies. If the locust kills a minion ,tower or even a champ, abathur gains the exp he would have gotten if he did it himself).

2 - Abathur has access to a spesial ward that only he can buy.

The Hive.

Ward cons -

Reduced vision range.

Can only have 1 active at a time

Pros -

No timer, lasts untill destroyed.

Has a version of Abathur's passive where it spawns a locust to join in the closest lane's minion wave. Controle wards disables this functionality and the hive will only provide sight, not a enemy locust swarm.

The locusts from a hive wil lcontinue to spawn even if abathur dies.

His passive really helps pushing a lane as in late game the locusts become dangourus. But they are also a risk to abathur himself as skilled players have learnt to figure out Abathur's gerneral position based on the time left for the locusts. Thus the Hive was added to help with this.

Im gonna explain his Q last as it's the most central and largest part of his kit, Even his Ult(s) are shorter to explain.

W - Map wide teemo ult with 2 second arm time. As it upgrades it also gains a slow and true sight effect and gains 1 extra charge. ( no furter explanation needed).

E - Burrow. Abathur digs(Channels) and tunnels to anywhere on the map where he has sight. (You cant really upgrade this in HOTS and It isnt broken as if Abathur tries to gank with it, he usually dies except if the person he tries to gank is like on 0.5% HP, and at the same time, he then has no escape.) A typical stratigy for him is to place a mine where ever you wanna go, and then dig to there.

Ult, Ok in heroes of the storm (For those of you who don't know) WHen you reach the equivalent of level 6 your character can choose between 1 of 2 ultimates and then plays with only that ultimate for the rest of the game, i will explain both of them so you can pick and choose.

R - Ultimate Monstrocity - Abathur mutates a minion into becomming a creature that is more powerfull then a super minion but not as powerfull as a champoin. If used his Q on the creature, Abathur takes controle of it. THe monstrocity will act as a regular minion if abathur does not controle it aka push in a lane wave. Killing the creature gives exp equal to that of killing a super minion.

While controlling it, the creature gains a passive ability where it's HP and AD increased by 5% for every minion it kills or dies close to it for a max of 40 times. When upgrading it, the monstrocity gains increased HPand damage, at level 2 the creatture explodes on death, dealing splash damage and at max, it gains the ability to burrow like Abathur's E for its ultimate.

The montrocity lasts untill it is killed, it is not on a timer and can potentially replace abathur as a champ for the rest of the game outright if played correctly. Thought, losing his suport and becoming a sorta tank/adc hybrid.

R - Ultimate Evolution. Abathur travels to a targeted ally champ and becomes a exact clone of that champ with 20 % increase of AP , AD and 10 % increase of MS of whoever he clones. He has full access of that hero's abilities except for their ultimates. This lasts for 20 seconds or killed. (Upgrading this increases the clone's HP and at max, gives the champ you cloned ashield equal to 25 % of their max HP.

Though the clone is untraited. In other words. It only shares the baseline stats of it's ally at that moment without any exterior influences. Aka You become that hero with its stats but without ANY stat boosts from ANY item he has equipped and only access to it's level 1 abilities.

When the clone dies abathur returns to the location from which he cast it.

Finally his Q - Symbiote.

Abathur creates a symbiote (Aka Bug hat {https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/heroesofthestorm/images/2/25/AbathurHero_Pissed13_ALT.ogg/revision/latest?cb=20150612034642}) above a targeted ally and gains a new set of abilities.

Abathur himself is put into stasis and is extremely weak and kill-able in this state. To promote Abathurs not parking at the fountain and only using symbiote, he has a passive for the symbiote that allows him to gain a reduced amount of EXP of every exp amount a nearby team mate gets but abathur's body has to be close. (Usually set up a defencive line with his W then use symbiote.)

The symbiote will constantly fly above the ally and can not move. Damage done to the symbioted ally does NOT transfer over to abathur and the ability lasts until cancelled or if Abathur or the symbioted ally dies.

It has no cooldown . Can only link to 1 ally at a time.

While controling his monster these abilities become it's default abilities. Pressing P will disconnect abathur from the monster.

Upgrading Symbiote upgrades all it's abilities at once. No range limit, can link from your fountain to the guy camping the enemy fountain.

New abilities :

Q - Stab spine - Bug hat fires a skil shot projectile, Has 3 charges and does decent damage. Upgrades adds a slow effect.

W - Erupt - Fires miniature Spines all around the symbiote. Upgrades allows the attack to heal the ally for a % of the damage done.

E - Carapice. The symbiote creates a shield for the ally.

Level 1 upgrade allows the ally to heal the value if the shield(Aka he heals for the value he is shielded up to where there is no shield left)

Level 2 gives a small increase to AS.

Level 3 Gives a increase in MS.

Level 4 allows the shield and effects to remain on the ally for full duration even if abathur cancelles the symbiote.

Level 5 Creases a shield around any other nearby ally for 25 % of it's effecency.

All kills gotten with symbiote gives the main EXP to abathur and 75 % of it to his linked ally.

All scale with AP.

TL;DR

Passive - Bugs spawn to help minion wave. Gets new bug spawning ward.

Q - Bug hat that is a also a support/adc hat.

W - Mini worldwide teemoTeemo ult

E - Old Rek 'SaiRekSai ult.

R - Either make super duper minion, or clone ally.

Extremely low health and basicly no direct damage.

Has passive abilities to gain Exp from multiple sources without him directly being there.

You basicly play with his bug hat constantly as you can suport ANYONE on the map and cover your allie's flanks and retreatswith your W . E is used to get around the map.

Taking him means you are 1 man down but your team has a map wide suport where ever they are . His ultimates are ment to make up for the 1 man down.

Thought i mostly wanna talk about his kit, i wanna mention his personality. He is a alien "Scientist" who has the ability to manipulate the very strands of DNA of a still live creature and he has a intense persute of creating perfect life. Though he knows Perfection is impossible to achieve , he still strives for it. He has such a persute for effecency that he even cuts down his sentences to relay only critical information, even throwing pronouns out his vocabulary as they are ineffecient. Leading to sentences like "Work harder. Better. Make faster. Stronger. Evolution never over."(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/heroesofthestorm/images/4/46/AbathurHero_Pissed05.ogg/revision/latest?cb=20150612034640)

Or

"Always can improve. Stressers reveal flaws. Flaws reveal potential. Always improving. Good." (https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/heroesofthestorm/images/e/e7/AbathurHero_Pissed10.ogg/revision/latest?cb=20150612034641)

Do you think this type of champ can fit in LoL? I would like it.

Also sorry if there are any grammer or spelling mistakes. English is not my main language.

A page for him on a wiki : https://heroesofthestorm.gamepedia.com/Abathur

7 Comments

OurLestrade5/28/2018, 8:34:18 AM2 votes

It's something I've seen proposed for years, but in my head I can't see it working for the game types of League. He's more suited to the wacky objectives of HotS, which enables lots of strange kits for better or worse.

Talinis5/28/2018, 8:43:08 AM1 votes

The ultimates such as the clone would not work as it is MASSIVELY broken. Anywhere on the map instantly a 1 v 2. Team fight? Just clone the fed carry and have 2 fed carries, the cloned one more massively OP than the original in ADDITION to giving massive buffs to the one he cloned? No. In order for this to work it would need to be much much weaker. Maybe clones an ally but only gets 50% of it's stats and has a 5 second cast time or a MASSIVE cooldown, like 5 minutes.

Also he would be able to push side lanes without even being there. So not only is your team 5 v 6 he also is pushing side waves without being there. Don't think this is correct champ for league because given his map presence, his abilities and ultimate would need to be very weak. Also, if his ultimate is killed by player, abathur should die as that is denying the enemy tons of gold/power ups when they have to face a duplicated ADC.