A question for those who want a gay Champion...

The Oasis··4 votes·1,052 views

What is it you're looking for in a gay champion? How exactly do you do create one in a way that satisfies those who champion the LGBT cause without being just a blatant "I'M GAY, I'M FABULOUS, LOOK AT ME" stereotype?

When people were clamoring for a black champion it took Riot a long time to create Lucian, but a black man really isn't that difficult to portray. Just make a black man and find a cool persona (just like you would do with any white/purple/blue skinned champion). But how do you portray an openly gay person without delving into stereotypes? This is under the assumption that a fairy prancing around in short shorts slapping people and with a voice-over saying "They are such big sillies" would be frowned upon. It would certainly never end up in league. Do you just want an effeminate voice-over with lines unrelated to sexual orientation? Would a single sentence in their lore, while making an interesting character be good enough? Of course it would be on a new champion, but something like "Thresh stole the soul of Lucian's husband, and lucian is trying to free him" while keeping his current personality and voice-overs intact? Or is there something else?

If you have an example of a well-portrayed gay man or a concept of a character that is both gay and interesting and that would fit in with league I'm willing to switch my opinion that it can't be done (not that I would necessarily agree or disagree with the need for one, but maybe you can show that it is at least possible).

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Criomhthann3 votes

... but a black man really isn't that difficult to portray.

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Just make a black man and find a cool persona (just like you would do with any white/purple/blue skinned champion).

Why can't a similar formula be applied to a homosexual?

The Oasis1 votes

How do you visually portray him? It's not the same because people only cared about the black skin. Whereas you can't visually portray someones homosexuality without going into stereotypes (it could be done through other methods, but not through solely visual means without it turning into political incorrectness).

Criomhthann2 votes

See the above. Most homosexuals are not flamers.

The Oasis1 votes

Obviously. But I'm asking how you portray the fact that they're gay. Gay isn't something you can just visually express on a champion model (like you can with black skin). The fact that you're adding this element of a character means it needs to be expressed somewhere in their design. Do you tell the player that they're gay through lore only? Is there some other aspect of the character that portrays the fact they're gay? "Ziggs, the gay Hexplosive expert" Just sounds like the gay was tacked on after the fact. Would anyone be satisfied with something like that?

Criomhthann2 votes

Think Cortez/Sam from ME3.

You find out Cortez is gay shortly after meeting him, as he is in mourning after losing his husband in a colony attack. You find out Sam is a lesbian right when you meet her, due to her shock at Edi being an AI and thus understood the suggestive comments Sam made about Edi's voice.

Acknowledging an existing/per-existing same sex partner, or alternatively, having them interact in a subtle (or not so much) way with other champions.

EG through taunts:

Lesbian Champion taunting Ahri: Your charm goes both ways? That means I have a shot, right?

Taunting Sona: Oh I'll make you sing all right.

Taunting Lux: Ezreal? Really? Honey, you're a half step away from my side of the yard...

Taunting Fiora: Why does someone with your body have to have your personality?

Taunnting Riven: Exiled? Well, if you ever need a place to stay, my door is always open...

Taunting opposing females: It's a shame that I have to kill you. I could think of so many other ways we could spend time together.

Taunting Ezreal: Almost, but not quite my type.

Taunting Taric: Gems always look better on women, Taric.

Taunting Jayce: You are repulsive in every aspect!

Taunting Zac: Why does someone with your personality have to have your... body?

In lore: "I joined this outfit because we get to save all the beautiful damsels in distress. That's my favorite kind of damsel!"

Gay Male champions taunting Ahri: How does that even work? You aren't my type at all.

(To tired to think of more stuff for gay male champions.)

That kind of thing.

Bryanthelion2 votes

Every minority has a balancing act when making them a character. Lucian had to have enough (and I use HEAVY QUOTATIONS HERE) "blackness" to make him not seem white-washed, but not become a stereotype.

It would be a similar balancing act, and I think you're thinking in extremes of super butch and super femme.

I personally wouldn't mind an effeminate male character, as long as it doesn't dive into the stereotype zone. Fine line, hard to balance, but, as an effeminate gay man, would LOVE LOVE LOVE fucking people up while spitting sassy one liners. But this would be better in contrast with a butch/bear/normal/fuck even velkoz can be gay for all I care character.

Cute Vegan Boy1 votes

idk just like make him hit on the attractive male champs if he like does /joke or /taunt i guess? I don't think we need a gay champ imo

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