Some fair and balanced items for you guys.

Niyume··1 votes·378 views

The Ring of Lesser Invincibility

  • 30 AP, 10% CDR, 20 armor/MR

  • When taking damage from a champion that drops you below 30% HP, you gain a shield for 15% HP. 90s CD.

The Bracelet of Invincibility

  • 75 AP, 20% CDR, 20 magic pen, 40 armor/MR

  • When taking damage from a champ that drops you below 30% HP, you gain a shield for 20% HP (scaling with armor and MR), and gain 20% spellvamp and an additional 25 AP until leaving combat. 120s CD.

The Magic Sword

  • 70 AP, 10% CDR, 20 magic pen

  • Gain 30 movement speed when out of combat

  • Your first spellcast that hits a champion after being unseen for one second does 130% damage and slows by 99% for one second.

  • If a ward can see you, this item will tell you, and reveal the ward so you can kill it. Even if this is on cooldown, you can still tell if someone sees you by watching the buff.

The Quiet Wand

  • 60 AP

  • You ignore 45% of enemy magic resist.

The Soulsucker

  • 90 AP

  • You heal for 20% of spell damage dealt, and can store overhealing into a shield for 20% of your max health.

Mariachi Machete

  • 90 AP, 20% CDR

  • You passively take 25% less damage.

  • You heal for 30% of all damage you deal with your spells.

The Spooky Knife

  • 300 HP, 50 AP, 10% CDR

  • If you damage an enemy champ, you gain 20% MS towards them and take 15% less damage from them for 15 seconds.

Holy Spirit

  • 70 AP, 30 armor, 30 magic resist

  • If you die, you come back to life at 50% health and 30% mana. 3m CD.


I just thought these items would make AP super fair, and give them more counterplay and weaknesses, since they're so broken right now.

... wait a minute, these broken items sound kind of familiar, don't they? Hm...

16 Comments

Terakali2 votes

The Ring of Lesser Invincibility

Completely busted

The Bracelet of Invincibility

This is just an upgrade of the already busted ring.

The Magic Sword

Oh, look, an even MORE busted item.

The Quiet Wand

100% magic pen. Brilliant.

The Soulsucker

![Cassiopeia](https://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/16.20.1/img/champion/Cassiopeia.png) 

Mariachi Machete

50% spell vamp. Brilliant.

The Spooky Knife

How... How are you supposed to play against this?

Holy Spirit

GA on steroids.

You claim these are all similar to items we have (probably in AD) but they really aren't. Excluding the ring/bracelet, they're all completely exaggerated, and that's ignoring the shit AP has that AD doesn't. For instance item 3089.

Niyume1 votes

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The Ring of Lesser Invincibility

Completely busted

item 3155

The Bracelet of Invincibility

This is just an upgrade of the already busted ring.

item 3156

The Magic Sword

Oh, look, an even MORE busted item.

item 3147

The Quiet Wand

100% magic pen. Brilliant.

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The Soulsucker

![Cassiopeia](https://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/16.20.1/img/champion/Cassiopeia.png) 

item 3072

Mariachi Machete

50% spell vamp. Brilliant.

item 3812

The Spooky Knife

How... How are you supposed to play against this?

item 3046

Holy Spirit

GA on steroids.

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You claim these are all similar to items we have (probably in AD) but they really aren't. Excluding the ring/bracelet, they're all completely exaggerated, and that's ignoring the shit AP has that AD doesn't. For instance item 3089.

They're just AP versions of items we already have. You call these ones broken, why not the AD counterparts?

TwinkiePro2 votes

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item 3155

item 3156

item 3147

item 3035 item 3036 item 3033

item 3072

item 3812

item 3046

item 3026

They're just AP versions of items we already have. You call these ones broken, why not the AD counterparts?

Uh cuz their stats aren't that absurd? You made AP version of these items that are infinitely superior in every sense. I would see lucian building these ap items over AD.

Niyume1 votes

Not really. They're the equivelant of the AD items in terms of power. Of course, AP doesn't have crit, so I just did AP instead of it.

Chembaron Yamada3 votes

LMAO, no, they are not equivalent.

For example: The Magic Sword vs item 3147 While the stats may be somewhat comparable, the passives are not. Duskblade deals at most 320 bonus damage, your item doubles a spellcast damage. I can tell you that many many many spells will break that 320 bonus damage way before level 18, especially with your item that completely ignores MR.

Duskblade doesn't grant out of combat movement speed anymore, they removed it. Your item doubles movement speed while out of combat. That is a Quinn ultimate you have there, without mana costs, casting time or anything.

This item is in no way even close to Duskblade, it is completely overpowered beyond earth. Sorry, but you are highly biased and exaggerate AD itemization because of that.

Niyume1 votes

The passive is intentionally exaggerated, yes, I know. But, if a champ relies mostly on their autos for damage, and their first one does, you know, 320 bonus damage, that's more than double damage on their first main attack.

And if someone is goinna build Duskblade, they're probably goinna build other lethality, which means they entirely ignore armor on a squishy, and have the move speed from Youmuu's.

Chembaron Yamada2 votes

You already admitted the point, you intentionally exaggerated the passives. It's less the effects which are broken here, just the numbers are way off and you did it on purpose to make a point.

But it doesn't make sense how you did it. If you made appropriate equivalent items here and we would call them broken, that would make people think. Making items which are clearly way more broken than any AD item in existence doesn't prove anything.

It's really just the numbers. Hell, you compare 35% bonus armor pen to 100% MR pen. If you really think that ignoring 35% of a tanks bonus armor is the equivalent to making all your damage true damage, then we can't help you and have to accept that this is a pointless AD itemization ranting thread without any evidence.

PS: Even if you build Ghostblade additionally, that's 20% MS boost for 6 seconds, 45 seconds cooldown. Do you think that is comparable to 100% movement speed out of combat? Because I surely don't think so.

Niyume1 votes

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You already admitted the point, you intentionally exaggerated the passives. [snip] If you made appropriate equivalent items here and we would call them broken, that would make people think.

If I made equivalent items, no one would care, comment or think about it at all -- they'd dismiss it just like any other concept items or champ concepts. I'm trying to imply that the AD versions are broken.

PS: Even if you build Ghostblade additionally, that's 20% MS boost for 6 seconds, 45 seconds cooldown. Do you think that is comparable to 100% movement speed out of combat? Because I surely don't think so.

Youmuu's gives bonus MS out of combat still, last I checked. 40%, I think?

But fine, I'll go adjust the passives and we'll see what happens.

Chembaron Yamada2 votes

Youmuu's gives 40 flat MS, not 40%.

Niyume1 votes

Still absurd.

Terakali1 votes

That's not even boots, and it sacrifices damage in exchange for that movement, so it's negative value compared to the passive it replaces.

Niyume1 votes

It doesn't really sacrifice damage since lethality increases your damage more than straight AD would.

And boots are what, 45 MS?

Terakali1 votes

Outside of combat, so it's around 2/5 of mobis, and compare that to duskblade.

TwinkiePro1 votes

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If you made appropriate equivalent items here and we would call them broken, that would make people think.

If I made equivalent items, no one would care, comment or think about it at all -- they'd dismiss it just like any other concept items or champ concepts. I'm trying to imply that the AD versions are broken.

Youmuu's gives bonus MS out of combat still, last I checked. 40%, I think?

But fine, I'll go adjust the passives and we'll see what happens.

But you made absurd ones instead and everyone who commented is calling you out on it and dismissing it regardless.

Mhihnj1 votes

lol i will buy magic sword first buy on veigar

Niyume1 votes

And that's what a lot of AD champs do: Buy a burst item to double down on their burst and eliminate any kind of counterplay they might have.

... and yet we removed DFG for that exact reason.

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