So why do you make double standards for ADCs?

Niyume·Dec 18, 2017·11 votes·1,061 views

You talk about how you hate it when a champ has no counterplay, you talk about how you want champs to have meaningful weaknesses, you talk about wanting windows of power, you talk about hating it when you just get deleted out of nowhere, you say it's "toxic" for glass cannons to have sustain...

So when are you nerfing ADCs then? They go against literally everything you say you hate, and have been warping the game for what, 8 years now?

But I get it. They're profitable. The idiots in LC$ crowds like all the kills and flash, and they can go home and play the literal easiest champs in the game, so they spend more money afterwards. That would also explain why ADCs have so many expensive skins.

24 Comments

Męñtªł ßðºm XÐDec 18, 20174 votes

You're silver 4 and have been playing ranked less than 3 months... You do not have the experience nor the game knowledge to understand even slightly what goes on in the meta.

Despite the circle jerk on boards right now, adc is not an issue, tanks are not underpowered what so ever and actually involve some decision making now, unlike the previous season where champions like Sej and Rammus could int 1v5 and make it out alive.

The meta currently revolves around the early game, when are adcs weakest? Early! The problem in lower elos is that games go longer cause no one knows what the heck they are doing and allow the adcs to get to the point in the game where they are the strongest (Justifiably).

If you are genuinely having issues with adcs, play around your adc. As a jg gank bot, as a top laner tp gank bot, mids can roam, support is obvious, and if you are still blaming your adc after that, just play adc.

RuFiotDec 18, 20173 votes

How you can finish games early if they play safe and you only have few kills on them? it seems like you can always stall the game till late if you don't have a feeder on your team.

Męñtªł ßðºm XÐDec 18, 20173 votes

If they are stalling take their objectives, this will either force them to fight you, or you will gain objectives.

E.g. You are the jg, mid, or, top , gank bot and get the turret, from there get other turrets using your adc. Turrets win games, you don't need kills to win.

RuFiotDec 18, 20171 votes

Yeah i guess you can freez the lane in your side and deny them cs and exp till you can dive them.

NiyumeDec 18, 20175 votes

Yeah, okay. 'cause this is my only account. Look up Aitsuki, where I have over 11,000 games and have been playing for years.

Despite the delusions you seem to have, ADCs have literally been breaking the game for years. When crit was originally added, it was so horrendously broken that they had to add dodge just to counter it, and eventually called RNG toxic and removed dodge... but weirdly enough left crit in the game, so ADCs could stay broken.

And no, tanks are garbage outside of a few brokens. I could play Poppy and have 300 armor, and still die in half a second because I got right clicked on. Used to be the tank's job was to jump into a teamfight and CC the carries, but they can't do that anymore without instantly dying. Takes a team effort to kill an ADC that's by themselves now (and they're supposed to lose 1v1s), and it takes 3-4 people to even try to kill one that has a support around.

And ADCs don't have a weak early game, and never did. Maybe season 1, but I didn't play then, so I couldn't say.

PyroLuxDec 18, 20174 votes

You are entitled to your opinion but please, you're not dying in half a second with 300 armor on poppy when adcs click on you. Dodge was removed, and rightfully so because you could literally get pentakills in the enemy fountain with enough dodge on Jax. You can't just say adcs never had a weak early game and just leave it at that without backing up your argument. Playing thousands of games doesn't mean that you're more knowledgeable than someone else, and the fact that you have a negative win rate despite playing a thousand games this season, as well as being the same rank for 3 seasons, reflects that. Also, if you're going to get into a debate with someone, don't call them delusional because they disagree with you.

Męñtªł ßðºm XÐDec 18, 20174 votes

On one account you have over 1000 games in gold 5 with a negative winrate, on the other, you have a 45%winrate in silver 4...

You clearly lack the critical thinking skills to understand even the slightest bit of the meta right now or how to play the game in general. In over 11,000 games you've managed to move up 5 divisions over the course of 4 seasons. STOP blaming the fact that you lose on adcs, if you honestly believe that adcs are that ridiculously broken that unless you are playing adc you cannot win the game for your team just play fucking adc.

It is not anything due to the meta that you are low elo and cannot climb, it's not related to adc, tanks, or your teammates. Using your own match history as an example, majority of your ranked games neither adc comes in the top 3 for damage charts, this is because adcs in lower elos cannot position properly and unlike tanks can't just walk out, ending in death.

Everything I said still stands, another solution to this problem, play around the adc, attack damage CARRY is the name for a reason, they are SUPPOSE to do the most damage, play around them!!!

NiyumeDec 18, 20172 votes

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On one account you have over 1000 games in gold 5 with a negative winrate, on the other, you have a 45%winrate in silver 4...

Yeah, so then look at my performance each game. When I have a 5:1 or better on every champ I play and win lane almost every game while roaming, getting drags and herald and whatnot, and pushing towers in every lane... it's not me that's the issue.

Look at my team's scores each game. That'll tell you why I don't climb.

As far as ADCs go, you ever notice that whatever bot lane gets ahead wins the game? There's a reason for that.

PyroLuxDec 18, 20174 votes

Look at my team's scores each game. That'll tell you why I don't climb.

Męñtªł ßðºm XÐDec 18, 20174 votes

Lmao, all your kdas tell me is that you don't do shit to help your team and are purely a kda player. You need to understand that in gold and silver your teammates don't mean shit, the majority of people Plat V+ can roll through silver with an 80%+ winrate no problem.

PyroLuxDec 18, 20174 votes

Looking at your previous ranked games, even in games you do well in, you never seem to put up high damage numbers, even on a poke-heavy champion like Zoe. On top of that, your kill participation is not always the best. KDA does not mean you are a good player, how much you can do while maintaining a high KDA does. And no, your team is not holding you back.

PennsDec 18, 20173 votes

Hes right tho, why do adcs kill me in 3 point and click crits but its unhealthy for assassins? lel

Męñtªł ßðºm XÐDec 18, 20174 votes

Assasins kill you in less right now because of lethality, I have no idea what's your point.

dominusxDec 18, 20175 votes

I'm a high diamond player for 3 years and i play since beta. Adc have been cancer since the dawn of league due to the fact that their is no outplaying AUTO MOTHERFUCKING ATTACKS specially now thta we no longer have the RNG dodge.

Adcs need to become completely irrelevant in lane again and become 3-4 item power spike champs like they should be. I kill people faster with a 2 item Trist than a Shyv with Warrior and 3F.

There is currently no adc that is weak early game and the ones that have mediocre early games get easily carried through with some overloaded uninteractive support.

And don't rank shame unless you are above diamond or actually dont rank shame in general when it comes to ShitDc's

PyroLuxDec 18, 20174 votes

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that this isn't your main because you've never been above plat 3 on this account. If you could link your diamond account, that would be great.

dominusxDec 18, 20173 votes

Most of my accs are banned. you can look up my most recent one Arcaadian(eune). Still point remains even if i'm diamond master chall ADC ARE AIDS.

Męñtªł ßðºm XÐDec 18, 20173 votes

First of all, rank does matter, it shows the ability to understand the meta.

Second, it's interesting you aren't posting on this high diamond account.

Finally, adcs are weak in lane, with the exception of very few (The lethality ones) . And even those aren't due to adcs being broken but lethality being broken. The problem surrounding bot lane is that supports tend to snowball the lane way too much in this current high damage meta.

dominusxDec 18, 20172 votes

I have many accs to log in and post from but none has the GP icon. Plus i'm known as Dominusx on discord so why the f not.

And no crit adcs spike with a BF and a zeal atm and don't tell me otherwhise cause i've already abused them .

Męñtªł ßðºm XÐDec 18, 20173 votes

Please link me an account you have personally abused them.

ZephyrDrakeDec 18, 20174 votes

oh look, another person that has no idea what he is talking about welp might as well enjoy myself [slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

ExecutionerDec 18, 20173 votes

I love my popcorn for these hate threads. [slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

AR URFDec 18, 20172 votes

ADCs have to deal with assassins so what's your point? you fight cancer with cancer.

ExecutionerDec 18, 20171 votes

Yeah and that shit is no fun at all. Well being the ADC that is.

AR URFDec 18, 20171 votes

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Yeah and that shit is no fun at all. Well being the ADC that is.

I think the problem lies in the fact that ADCs have a potential to dodge what an assassin will come at them with. And if the assassin misses their burst then the ADC usually wins that duel.