Have any champion concepts ever been accepted?

TheRakkun··33 votes·4,452 views

Just wondering, sorry if it's not in the right place, any examples?

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DwarvenGiant15 votes

Artistically/Thematically? Yes, but never completely like they (the concepts) are. If Riot finds a concept that seems interesting they would have to redesign it and concept it again, so it would fit in with the game's art style for sure. Thematically, I know that Braum's concept was inspired by Angus, according to Rioters' comments around his release.

GaleWinUnleashed4 votes

That Beard Slap ult looked amazing. The target would gain sex appeal, among other buffs.

Booleans15 votes

Many skins have been inspired by fan art. As for champions, riot definitely takes inspiration from players when designing abilities, but they never take a player's champion as a whole. If they take inspiration from a concept, the concept is all they take. For example, gnar was inspired by a comment on reddit several years ago asking for a yordle jungler who could transform into a giant monster. Riot denies this, but Velkoz was released, coincidently, 1 year after someone made a comment asking about a 1 eyed floating void monster that shot lasers.

Narasimha25 votes

Riot denies this, but Velkoz was released, coincidently, 1 year after someone made a comment asking about a 1 eyed floating void monster that shot lasers.

To be fair, they probably drew just as much, if not more inspiration from D&D's Beholders.

Rew7112 votes

Actually, Gnar was a pure asked concept from 2 people they just slapped together.

Someone asked for a tiny yordle named Gnar that was from the Frojord.

Another asked for a caveman yordle named Gnar that was big and tanky.

I read them both but you guys are going to have to look it up. I'm too lazy to do it again.

Solaxo2 votes

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coincidently, 1 year after someone made a comment asking about a 1 eyed floating void monster that shot lasers.

1 year is not "coincidentaly" and a beholder-like monster who shoots lasers isn't a very original concept

Blue Moon Wolf3 votes

I'm still waiting on my Hindu elephant god Idea to be made :(

Narasimha1 votes

Ganesha? I think you might want to look into Smite for that. Though apparently they're slightly against it, since "he's a popularly worshiped god today." Meh, I'd be cool if he popped up.

Blue Moon Wolf2 votes

I think it would be okay if they made him look more like an armored battle elephant a bit like this: http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100412085556/jadeempire/images/1/1f/Profile_elephantdemon_main_292x302.jpg mixed with Volibear

manbearswine1 votes

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Many skins have been inspired by fan art. As for champions, riot definitely takes inspiration from players when designing abilities, but they never take a player's champion as a whole. If they take inspiration from a concept, the concept is all they take. For example, gnar was inspired by a comment on reddit several years ago asking for a yordle jungler who could transform into a giant monster. Riot denies this, but Velkoz was released, coincidently, 1 year after someone made a comment asking about a 1 eyed floating void monster that shot lasers.

Well,there was the concept of "angus the manly support" or something,that guy was focused around his beard though,but here I think it's pretty obvious where braum came from.

ModCaptainMårvelous10 votes

Short answer: No.

Long answer: Never directly. Champion concepts have likely been looked at and incorporated in some fashion. It's easy to say "My bug monster is a direct cause of Kha'zix!" when, in reality, most champions/champion concepts can be boiled down to a single core archetype or idea. Kha'zix? Ultimate predator. Vi? Rough and tumble boxer. Braum? Stalwart manly man. etc.

More so, champion concepts and ideas go through hundreds of iterations. As an example, I once told my friend (in Riot) how similar Rek'sai was to a concept I had made about a year ago. His response was that Rek'sai's concept had been in the works since HE had gotten there around 2+ years ago. At worst, the concept had zero influence. At best, the concept directly inspired a part of Rek'sai's kit and/or characterization.

My best advice I can give is don't be too upset if you make a huge concept and Riot releases something that makes it null and void. You recognized a niche and came up with an idea to fill it. That's good, it shows that you're thinking in a similar mindset and that you know what you're doing to some degree. As for actually seeing your concept ever made? Probably never going to happen. Riot's made of people who want to see their ideas implemented, I doubt we'd ever see them run flat and start asking the community for ideas.

Vbunnie1 votes

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Short answer: No.

Long answer: Never directly. Champion concepts have likely been looked at and incorporated in some fashion. It's easy to say "My bug monster is a direct cause of Kha'zix!" when, in reality, most champions/champion concepts can be boiled down to a single core archetype or idea. Kha'zix? Ultimate predator. Vi? Rough and tumble boxer. Braum? Stalwart manly man. etc.

More so, champion concepts and ideas go through hundreds of iterations. As an example, I once told my friend (in Riot) how similar Rek'sai was to a concept I had made about a year ago. His response was that Rek'sai's concept had been in the works since HE had gotten there around 2+ years ago. At worst, the concept had zero influence. At best, the concept directly inspired a part of Rek'sai's kit and/or characterization.

My best advice I can give is don't be too upset if you make a huge concept and Riot releases something that makes it null and void. You recognized a niche and came up with an idea to fill it. That's good, it shows that you're thinking in a similar mindset and that you know what you're doing to some degree. As for actually seeing your concept ever made? Probably never going to happen. Riot's made of people who want to see their ideas implemented, I doubt we'd ever see them run flat and start asking the community for ideas.

Heidi the wrangler a concept I made also helped influence Braum and Kalista in kalistas ult is like HEidis w and braum is a farmer/support tank and heidi is a farmer/support tank also Heidis q is similar to Braums q in that it pulls her to an ally yeah it helped but also it didnt

Dyvius5 votes

I do know for a fact that Dunkmaster Darius came about as a very long-time movement from fans to have his Ultimate Ability enshrined literally.

Riot refined it, but they gave the fans what they wanted.

But that's a skin, not a champ. So idk about that.

Sinlaire1 votes

Surprise party fiddlesticks and also battle bunny riven were both skins based on what the community asked for as well.

test account1 votes

Brolaf as well. I was one of the little shits spamming the forums asking for that skin, back in the day.

Delioth1 votes

And void Fizz too

Ariel the Cruel1 votes

pool party skins. And pop star Ahri.

Auz the Ripper1 votes

#MUNDO FILE!

Drukyul5 votes

inb4 Pendragon/Allstars/Teemo controversy

warwiller3 votes

whos else other than braum?

ChaosThief1 votes

I posted another comment a bit earlier, but I believe Orianna.

Killer of Poros3 votes

Well the community can ask for a type of champion. The community basically pointed missiles at riot to create an armored bear and behold volibear coincidentally appeared as a champion. Now we must ready the weapons again for helmet bro.

GaleWinUnleashed5 votes

Clearly Helmet Bro will have to have some kind of revive/second life passive, seeing as he appears to be able to recover from many different forms of death.

Ariel the Cruel5 votes

You're implying he ever actually died.

His passive is more like Poppy's on steroids.

GaleWinUnleashed1 votes

I find it difficult to imagine that Sion let Helmet Bro live when he had him on the ground, ready to stomp him. Or that anyone could survive the full power of Vel'Koz's disintegration abilities.

Ariel the Cruel6 votes

And yet.... have you ever actually seen him die?

GaleWinUnleashed4 votes

Good point. Perhaps that's why so many champions attack him; maybe they're all trying to claim the glory for actually managing to kill Helmet Bro.

junglerboy161 votes

Confirmed: Helmet bro has an instant global teleport revive and is absolutely addicted to thrill seeking. He finds the most dangerous champions out there, almost gets killed, and then blink! he banishes in the nick of time.

50000000000000001 votes

Passive: Helmet Bro does not take any damage, ever.

junglerboy161 votes

Poppy's passive is already a passive on steroids...

If Helmet bro's is "like her's on steroids" strong, he'd break the game.

terkmc2 votes

Braum is based off of Angus and Volibear was based on community push for armored bear

SEKAI2 votes

Leona, Braum and Volibear were all direct responses to community requests (I think Gnar was one too, not sure).

But generally, not really, unless the idea is getting support from thousands (literally) of players otherwise the normal champ concepts you see everyday don't really ever get considered pretty much at all.

Rico Nasty2 votes

yep i made a thread here about a bard prototype that i found on the old forums and i got downvoted to hell for some reason http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2353889

Borbland2 votes

Braum was inspired from Angus I think.

The kits are completly different, but the idea of a manly support came from there

Equinox MKD1 votes

Zac, Braum, Gnar, i wouldn't say officially accepted because things get complicated then. EDIT: and Thresh i think but i am not sure 2nd EDIT: velkoz also but it wasnt with drawings, it was a post where ppl asked for a tentacle champion

a w1ld bulbasaur1 votes

rammus was also fan created im pretty sure

Rallen3201 votes

i'm surprised no one's mentioned Varus yet. I know Penny Arcade played a pretty large part (at least thematically) in his creation.

YOU BEEN WARNED1 votes

I heard Maokai and Elise, they were put in a statistic sheet thing but idk where it is.

I think it had how many teemos die per second or something.

ZGM Dazzling1 votes

a Rioter said that they never look at champion concepts because of copy right -_-

SpecterVonBaren1 votes

Thresh was almost completely designed my a person on the old forums actually.

Ariel the Cruel1 votes

Officially, they can't use fan concepts. The amount of legal BS is staggering.

Unofficially, there have a handful of concepts used; though made original.

Colonel Lapoose1 votes

I guess that totally gets rid of my umbrella man idea then.

1999 01 171 votes

they take general themes. lee sin, volibear, braum were not actual concepts but just an idea. their kits had no community input. braum has none of angus's abilities(they were a joke after all).

theorying a champion can be fun but don't expect anything in this forum to ever appear in game.

Crett1 votes

You'll never believe it, but Teemo. I believe Teemo was conceived before LoL was made, though, and the player only made the gameplay design. Really foggy on the details

GreenLore1 votes

Like many people explained they never take a direct concept of a fan,only small aspects of fan-made champs.

One example would be Braum. Braum was originally going to be a female mechanic with a big mechanical shield. It was then that the guys at riot read about Angus the puncher,a concept about a ridiculous manly support,because we don't have that many manly supports. Then they decided to take the concept of the shieldguard into a different direction and turned it into braum.

ChaosThief1 votes

I believe the concept of Orianna was based off, but not completely off of, a player's design. It was a fire based character but this character still had an orb.

I forget where I saw that, but I believe I did see a rioteer post that.

EDIT AS I FINISH COMMENT: A concept isn't really to be implemented in most cases as the kits are either overloaded or too complicated in a lot of cases. Some really cool ideas can come from concepts, but not an entire kit of them. I prefer to put a concept for other players to see rather than rioteers implement them (as much as I hope it would happen I know it wouldn't.)

Solidsnipe1 votes

If you guys don't mind, would you look through my champion concepts within my post? its part of my senior thesis and i would like as much feedback as possible before picking one of the ideas.

League forum post

Thank you!

Krfin1 votes

They usually get what the like from a champion concept than take pieces of it and pieces of other concepts and combine them together to make a unique kit. They also read the lore to see if it would give them inspiration to create a champion based off it.

+proof Gnar and Zac are inspired by some old champion concepts. Zac = Bluu (i believe that was the name) and Gnar was based off a caveman yordle

SevenStrokeRoll1 votes

I know Gnar was a concept, he was supposed to be a snowboarder.

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