Demon Vi needs to always have the tail.

Scrimshäw·Sep 30, 2015·63 votes·9,682 views

It honestly makes no sense for her to have it only when charging Q, like, "oh yeah check out this tail it increases drag and slows me down"... Just make it always on. The wings, whatever of course.

33 Comments

RiotmoonstonesSep 30, 201515 votes

Hey Treasure Goblin,

Wanted to take a moment and jump in to explain the reasoning for why we chose to only have the wings and tail out when she uses (Q), (R) or recalls.

In development, figuring out when the wings and tail should be displayed was discussed several times. We all agreed that it was a cool feature for this skin, but wanted to hit the sweet spot of 'never seeing it enough for it to be cool' and 'always seeing it, so it becomes boring.'

We ultimately decided that just having them appear on the (R) was too sparse, and let's be honest, you're likely not looking at the details when you're ulting as Vi. We felt that adding them to the (Q) and the recall would allow them to be seen, but wouldn't be constant, which would cause the skin to be too busy - she's already got a good chunk of pink in the skin without the wings/tail.

CHOPSTICKUHHSep 30, 20153 votes

Like wings on dragon slayer pantheons R

TerraRisingSep 30, 20154 votes

[{quoted}](name=Riot KateyKhaos,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=chTm3O1M,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-09-30T17:21:11.317+0000)

Hey Treasure Goblin,

Wanted to take a moment and jump in to explain the reasoning for why we chose to only have the wings and tail out when she uses (Q), (R) or recalls.

In development, figuring out when the wings and tail should be displayed was discussed several times. We all agreed that it was a cool feature for this skin, but wanted to hit the sweet spot of 'never seeing it enough for it to be cool' and 'always seeing it, so it becomes boring.'

We ultimately decided that just having them appear on the (R) was too sparse, and let's be honest, you're likely not looking at the details when you're ulting as Vi. We felt that adding them to the (Q) and the recall would allow them to be seen, but wouldn't be constant, which would cause the skin to be too busy - she's already got a good chunk of pink in the skin without the wings/tail.

Question: Why so much pink? I'm sure the color choice has to do with Vi's normal hair color, but pink really isn't a a traditionally "demonic" color like red or orange (think Coop's devils as an example). It's going to look like a tiny pink "Sionball" when she Q's or R's towards me.

ScrimshäwSep 30, 20157 votes

the wings i get, the tail i don't. i mean, is a tail really going to be so distracting? it even makes more sense for the wings to only show up when ulting, and the tail to always be out,

wings= help with speed and forward thrust

tails= help with stabilization and walking

???

profit

ps: that's all i'm saying now, i know riot doesn't actually change skins other than maybe fixing some color issues based on feedback, so gg.

ZedexOct 1, 20151 votes

They do change skins when there is positive feedback and positive discussions. Your bias towards only wanting the tail visible might not be helping. If both were always showing I'd 100% buy this skin. But, that would also probably entail a 1820 price tag.

AMYS GRAVESep 30, 20151 votes

I'm kind of agreeing with some of the folks here, too much pink. other than that the skin looks great! keep up the good work!

Noctius28Sep 30, 20154 votes

dude we just want the tail 24/7, the wings is perfectly understandable but whynot have the tail always visible?

gg git diffOct 1, 20151 votes

I agree, but the tail is more subtle than the wings so it’s kind of hard to see when using Q/R with the other particles going on.

VantoothOct 1, 20151 votes

I also think the tail, not the wings, should be there at all time.

AthenasVendettaOct 1, 20151 votes

[{quoted}](name=Riot KateyKhaos,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=chTm3O1M,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-09-30T17:21:11.317+0000)

Hey Treasure Goblin,

Wanted to take a moment and jump in to explain the reasoning for why we chose to only have the wings and tail out when she uses (Q), (R) or recalls.

In development, figuring out when the wings and tail should be displayed was discussed several times. We all agreed that it was a cool feature for this skin, but wanted to hit the sweet spot of 'never seeing it enough for it to be cool' and 'always seeing it, so it becomes boring.'

We ultimately decided that just having them appear on the (R) was too sparse, and let's be honest, you're likely not looking at the details when you're ulting as Vi. We felt that adding them to the (Q) and the recall would allow them to be seen, but wouldn't be constant, which would cause the skin to be too busy - she's already got a good chunk of pink in the skin without the wings/tail.

Umm, Hi Katey!

have you guys considerec doing something like the Night Hunter Rengar skin line? Where he toggles the hood? Granted here we are talking about two different parts of the body.... But could you guys do it? I know the wings are cool, and nice. But, whenever you think Demon/Devil... You think of a tail and horns......

Just saying, its sorta like having a unicorn Soraka... without the horn.

BooticaSep 30, 201510 votes

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ScrimshäwSep 30, 20153 votes

yeah, i mean most of the people i know have 30 inch horns growing out of their head now that i think about it.

ARequestOfDeathSep 30, 20153 votes

it is a reference to hellboy

ÐucktalesSep 30, 20151 votes

{quoted}

it is a reference to hellboy

hellboy had a tail

Vincent LuciusSep 30, 20151 votes

It would be awesome if they had her horns broken and have them grow back when she ults.

FF TO JOIN lSLAMSep 30, 20151 votes

kind of like a riven sword?

Vincent LuciusSep 30, 20151 votes

Without bonus stats. But it would be a Hellboy reference, like how every time they show what he could have become or what he looks like with true sight he suddenly has long horns on his head instead of the nubs he sands down.

RiotmoonstonesSep 30, 201510 votes

Yup! Demon Vi does take some inspiration from Hellboy, but the skin isn't a 1:1 replication. :]

Chromatic EagleSep 30, 20152 votes

So why is she Demon Vi and not Infernal Vi? Does she have any relation to Infernal Nasus?

RiotmoonstonesSep 30, 20158 votes

Nope, they're two different skin lines.

Chromatic EagleSep 30, 20153 votes

Well that's interesting. What's the difference exactly? What makes Infernal skins unique?

DeliothOct 1, 20154 votes

No insider knowledge here, but demon seems more judeo-christian idea of devils and hell, while Infernal seems more... mythical. Nasus does have a bone thrown to cerberus.

((Obligatory D&D joke: Demons come from the abyss and are chaotic, but Infernal is Hell- lawful and structured.))

Hyrum GraffOct 1, 20151 votes

{quoted}

No insider knowledge here, but demon seems more judeo-christian idea of devils and hell, while Infernal seems more... mythical. Nasus does have a bone thrown to cerberus.

((Obligatory D&D joke: Demons come from the abyss and are chaotic, but Infernal is Hell- lawful and structured.))

A. Bone.