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A Marksman As A Support?

ViiLLAiN·8/28/2016, 12:41:30 PM·5 votes·4,217 views

So i was thinking, Why isn't there a Marksman that's actually a Support?

The Support role is really lacking in player base as have been proven with the 50% faster queue rate and also how fill is essentially Support Most of the time.

This has lead to my thought that people just don't find support fun to play.

Is it the role or is it the champions?

Maybe and this is just a thought they made a Marksman A Support, and nothing like ashe in terms of how she is labeled in the game as (marksman/support im talking about something in terms of Support/Marksman ..

I think this would be an interesting change in the role due to the fact that you will have the range of a marksman and can possibly give vision with their long range ablities, or maybe even heal from far?, CC from far.

ANywhoos, Just something i wanted to share, maybe people can tell me what they think of it ?[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

EDIT* When I use the term Marksman , I am referring to the meaning of a Champion that has a Auto attack range longer then Melee range. Not necessarily a ADC

31 Comments

Madra8/28/2016, 1:51:10 PM5 votes

I imagine that Riot will release a champion like this eventually because it hasn't been done before. Some Rioter champion designer, bequeathed by a self-granted auspice of genius, will take the challenge upon himself like some form of divine mandate; shoehorning and buffing the design until it fits into the meta. Then, when it's pick or ban in the LCS and everyone hates the more than life itself, he will sit back and congratulate himself on what a good job he did.

Candurill8/28/2016, 3:07:19 PM3 votes

Hey!! Not long ago I made a Support/Assasin champion. I know, maybe not what you were looking for, but still a Marksman support might go the direction i went with Umbra, The Dark Servant I have been thinking of a marksman support though and I am planning on doing one when i come up with an awesome gameplay idea :)

A Digger8/28/2016, 7:00:05 PM3 votes

It's the role of support that needs to be updated. I honestly thought the support role would get a major update before this assassin update. The fill role would be an option if all roles were about equally desired positions. With a role that the majority of people don't want to play, it's not a good option. Looking at any game with roles like this, if a role or class is so undesired, then it should be obvious that it's concept should be reworked to make it more desirable to play.

I hate my ADC8/28/2016, 12:58:56 PM3 votes

It's the role. I just made a huge post describing what the support role means if you want an in-depth explanation on why Marksman shouldn't be supports.

If you don't feel like reading through it, you can skip to the "What makes a champion good at support" section. If you don't feel like reading that either, well here is a TL;DR: Marksmans are scaling champions. They need gold to get items to deal damage. Supports are gold starved.

DraygenBiscuit8/28/2016, 1:17:34 PM2 votes

I LOVE PLAYING SUPPORT! But most people look down on supports as weak, and if you do well and start carrying the other team trash talks you about how sucky you are, as a player becase you have to play support. For some reason people seem to think that support is what players who cant do anything else play, and therefore most people try to learn anything else but how to support. Plus when you support if you get kills normally your team will be upset with you.. Even if you 1v1ed the person with no one nearby. For example as sona, me and the adc had just killed bot lane and headed to mid to gank but I instead went to ward the enemy jg, I found rek sai killing the raptors so I went in and killed him. No one was nearby and yet the guy in top lane yelled ugh another stupid support... Don't ks! I was just thinking... really...

BetaGeminorum8/28/2016, 4:40:47 PM2 votes

Tresh is a kind of marksman and Kindred's ult is kind of a support ability.

MrFluffyPuffy8/28/2016, 2:50:56 PM2 votes

Those both are roles. You can´t have both. Cause if you decide to go support, then you aren´t a marksman anymore, the same on the other way around. But champs, who could decide between one of those roles are Ashe (E,R), Kalista (W,R), Teemo (Q,R).

Kuzja19/2/2016, 11:14:24 PM1 votes

I was thinking of creating a support marksman concept myself. I just need a good lore for it

FloRaider429/3/2016, 10:33:20 AM1 votes

Marksmen and support just doesn't mix well, considering that they are on opposite spectrums. One is very farm reliant and focuses on damage the other is supposed to function without any real farm and mainly uses CC.

Stars Shaper9/3/2016, 10:51:12 AM1 votes

I can't believe some1 hasn't already post this:

http://i.imgur.com/6Sp5ec0.jpg

resumed8/29/2016, 1:54:37 AM1 votes

i suggested something like this a while ago where their passive would enable them to buff allies by using basic attack on them where they could give something like a bloodthirster shield with their aas

XIII Vanitas8/29/2016, 9:12:55 AM1 votes

Your definition of marksman is... weird, to say the least. If by "Support/Marksman" you mean a support that has ranged autos, we already have plenty. Bard Janna Karma Lulu Morgana Nami Sona Soraka Thresh

Spitemaster8/29/2016, 1:07:56 PM1 votes

You can take Kalista as a support. You have an unparalleled ability to save your lane partner, along with quite a bit of damage, in exchange for having little reliable cc. Build relic shield and last hit with your w's passive. It's not great, but you can make it work.

Duke Anax8/29/2016, 1:35:23 PM1 votes

Urgot actually makes for a decend Supp. Especially when your team is AD heavy.

Long range poke, soft CC, hard CC after 6, damage reduction and armor reduction.

kiUOlJX9r78/29/2016, 1:45:15 PM1 votes

In my opinion, every support except for Thresh and Nami is boring. Just not enough going on with other supports.

Soraka - Spam W Sona - ... Braum - His kit seemed boring to me and only his ult is rewarding. Blitz - Repetitive combos / Lacking utility Lulu - Is actually fun, but I don't find her very good with certain ADCs. Janna - Boring kit. Point click slow. Point click shield. Charge easy-to-hit knock up and a simple ult. Morgana - Repetitive kit. Bard - Not too bad to play, his roaming requirement makes you really want to do stuff in other lanes. Taric - meh. Easy to hit stun. Weak heal. Strong single target shield. Karma - Not that bad, big Shields, big damage, sanic fast. Fun to play with certain ADCs. Leona - In your face style, but her root isn't that rewarding imo. Ult is easy to hit, q is point click after root, and w is a dull ability. Zyra - AI Plants. (When a support Zyra says, "I did more damage than you and you're top/jg/mid!" -.- ) Zilean - Double bomb is rewarding, but w and e is dull, and his passive is pretty bad. His ult can be rewarding. Still a boring champion nonetheless.

I'm not saying these champs are bad or anything, I'm just saying that they have aspects of their kit that are boring.

Take Thresh, his q is a hook that he can follow to then knock the enemy a certain direction while pulling his teammate toward him. The play potential is unreal on Thresh, and that's why he's fun.

Nami is my ranged choice. She has a rewarding stun, a rewarding ultimate in her knockup, strong heals and good poke in one ability, and allows her carry to do tons of damage in their auto attack.

Wayfinder228/29/2016, 2:24:17 PM1 votes

I'd like to point out the fact that Ashe is labeled as "Marksman/Support"