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Reworked Champions

hitMAN00084··1 votes·1,646 views

While League has been an ever evolving game some champions have been reworked that changed their core identity as a champion, (Mord, Sion, Poppy, Aatrox, etc). While I agree that some champions kits have been outdated as the game has progressed there are some players who don't like the reworks to the champions they have grown to love.

I would like to suggest a game mode that would allow you to play the old versions of champions. It could be called League Legacy or something. Whether this game mode would also include old items would be a difficult decision, since many items were removed because they were broken with some champions, I'm looking at you Udyr and Enervating Locket, and other items were just unbalanced (DFG).

Personally I have missed old Mord, Aatrox and even Urgot. I enjoyed playing champions my friends told me were bad and trying to find a way to make them good. i found out that Aatrox as a jungler could solo Baron at 20 minutes with 2 items and boots, Urgot was the ultimate top lane kite champion, and mord did some of the highest damage in the game at the cost of mobility and CC.

I'm not saying we should revert all the champions who have been reworked over the years, but having another opportunity to play those champions that have been changed forever would be a fun and nostalgic experience.

4 Comments

DuskDaUmbreon1 votes

Been suggested hundreds of times. Two big problems arise:

  1. Riot doesn't keep the code around. They patch, maybe hold onto it for a couple weeks at most in case of critical failure, then delete the old code. Those old reworks literally no longer exist in the system.

  2. What patch of them do you go to?

hitMAN000841 votes

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Been suggested hundreds of times. Two big problems arise:

  1. Riot doesn't keep the code around. They patch, maybe hold onto it for a couple weeks at most in case of critical failure, then delete the old code. Those old reworks literally no longer exist in the system.

  2. What patch of them do you go to?

  1. I am sorry to hear that, they do have all the notes and exact figures on abilities and stats that are still around however, and if we look at the amount of effort put into some of the game modes that have come out recently, Star Guardian, Odyssey, and that weird project one with only adcs, I don't think it would be too difficult to plug and chug the old stats.

  2. I would go with the patch right before they got reworked, in the case of champions that have been reworked twice, (Ryze, Mord), perhaps put a slider that would allow you to choose which one.

And again this is just an idea that I would enjoy and I think a lot of other players would enjoy.

Mr Voidling1 votes

Only good reworks in my opinion are Warwick, Urgot(who is kind of overtuned imo, but the direction is better?), and Yorick. The latter two primarily because they didn't have much of an identity in League? Yorick's abilities were just copy paste "here's 3 different ghosts and a champion copy, have fun"(R was kind of cool though tbh), and Urgot... well he was just a meme(honestly I only remember his weird R as I never really played with or against him outside nemesis draft). Warwick seemed too outdated and literally just had his kit modernized for the most part. Bad reworks? I consider them bad when -as stated by you- the core identity of the champion is lost/replaced. Off the top of my head I would say these are: Aatrox Akali Galio Irelia Mordekaiser Sion ( <- From what I hear at least) and Swain Most of them would've made fine NEW champions (except Akali, screw new Akali), but they aren't really anything like their old counterparts.

hitMAN000841 votes

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Only good reworks in my opinion are Warwick, Urgot(who is kind of overtuned imo, but the direction is better?), and Yorick. The latter two primarily because they didn't have much of an identity in League? Yorick's abilities were just copy paste "here's 3 different ghosts and a champion copy, have fun"(R was kind of cool though tbh), and Urgot... well he was just a meme(honestly I only remember his weird R as I never really played with or against him outside nemesis draft). Warwick seemed too outdated and literally just had his kit modernized for the most part. Bad reworks? I consider them bad when -as stated by you- the core identity of the champion is lost/replaced. Off the top of my head I would say these are: Aatrox Akali Galio Irelia Mordekaiser Sion ( <- From what I hear at least) and Swain Most of them would've made fine NEW champions (except Akali, screw new Akali), but they aren't really anything like their old counterparts.

I challenged myself to learn how old urgot worked and I found out that his kit was busted. If you built CDR and lethality he did a lot of damage. His e shredded armor and made his q a heat seeking missle that could not miss, his black cleaver would shred armor, his w made his q slow, and his passive made people do less damage. His kit was pretty cancer to fight against tbh.

But the point of the post is mostly to see if anyone else would be interested in getting a game mode that allowed you to play the old champions that no longer exist in league.

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