AP itemization

hitMAN00084·11/14/2019, 12:33:20 AM·9 votes·7,675 views

When it comes to AD items the itemization is clear, there are the bruiser items such as black cleaver, trinity force, titanic hydra, etc, the assassin items are clear as well, duskblade, youmous, etc, and the ADC items are all the crit items. League has tailored items to the needs of the champion classes that use AD.

This does not seem to be the case for AP items. There is a large variation with AP items but there doesn't seem to be role specific items. The ap items seems more attuned to play styles such as damage over time with rylas and liandrys or going for a burst build, such as ludens, Morellos, Deathcap. There is not a clear division of items for AP users, making them all fit in the "mage" role. There are definite roles within AP, Poke (Xerath), Control (Taliyah), Assassin (Eveyln), Juggernaut (Mord). The AP items should be more specified to these roles, the assassin items should give access to magic pen and burst, the control mages should have access to health and cc, and the juggernauts should have access to damage over time. This is of course just an opinion and I believe that it would help better balance AP items.

32 Comments

Brotha11/14/2019, 2:24:55 AM5 votes

More ap bruiser items are needed for ap fighters:

Diana Mordekaiser Ekko

Yea it's fun building them to do damage and play like assassins but we need more class variety in league since nobody plays tanks.

CaptainAntiHeroz11/14/2019, 1:24:08 AM4 votes

item 3170

WoonStruck11/14/2019, 4:24:25 AM2 votes

High AP items should NEVER include CDR.

CDR items shouldnt have more than 60 AP. Especially the ones with 20% CDR.

CDR items probably shouldnt be defensive. They should come with powerful actives that cater toward champs that want to "dps" more than their poke/burst counterparts.

Trinity force should both GIVE adaptive force and deal the respective damage type. Lich bane should be removed. 0 interaction 1 shot passive is pretty dumb.

AP bruisers should be rebalanced to not feel punished building Sunfire. Think about that one for a minute. Basically, encourage people not to build glass cannon on them.

AP assassins would be losing their CDR and lichbane, so they might actually end up balanced. Everything AP has broken scaling if they ever are capable of considering gunblade or lichbane.

Poke would either go high damage or higher reliability via cdr. They would no longer get both.

boricCentaur111/14/2019, 12:45:33 AM2 votes

Ad items have more options since they're more types of champions. The majority of ap champions are just a different type of mage, there is one juggernaut, like 3 divers and I guess a marksman maybe two.

Cass wants similar items to a arhi whereas a cait wants VERY different items from a talon.

Like mages may play differently but overall they want the same things when it comes to items.

I will agree with you. There itemization needs more diversity items like item 3157 or item 3285 need to be changed so they can't be built on basically every ap champion. We need more items like item 3152 or item 3027 they help a specific type of champion while not being good on most.

preternatural11/14/2019, 4:02:33 PM1 votes

the AP items, are already all good. so rito has no reason to make another set of items for AP assassins outside of them perhaps having niche items like a gunblade. i would very much like malady back as an item so i can play the real elise again though.

LightswornLance11/14/2019, 6:22:15 AM1 votes

There is only one thing AP itemization really needs and that would be a bruiser equivalent to deathcap. Currently any champ that would go AP bruiser is forced to build full AP because building tank items loses out on too much build efficiency due to deathcaps passive. I suggest it has a passive that gives you AP based on bonus health, and ofc doesn't stack with deathcaps passive.

Saezio11/14/2019, 8:23:12 AM1 votes

Sounds like you just want ap bruiser items. Can't happen cause mages like ryze or cassio will abuse them.

There are tons of items to do all you need with the ap champs. item 3152 item 3100 item 3905 item 3030 item 3157 item 3285 item 3151 item 3116 item 3174 item 3146 item 3040 item 2065 item 3115

Like.. what more do you want?

Daddy Ants11/14/2019, 11:06:36 AM1 votes

Yet AP itemization is the best in the game by far.